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Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 21:30
by In the know 85
I'd like to see the Ruiz vs Parker rematch in America! Sure fire win for Ruiz. And the whyte vs chisora fight has to be made again, awesome old school scrap!
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 21:32
by Grailer
In the know 85 wrote:I'd like to see the Ruiz vs Parker rematch in America! Sure fire win for Ruiz. And the whyte vs chisora fight has to be made again, awesome old school scrap!
Better Idea!
Lets see
Ruiz vs Chisora
Parker vs Whyte
and the winner fights of both face each other
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 21:35
by ClivePatrickLyons
In the know 85 wrote:I'd like to see the Ruiz vs Parker rematch in America! Sure fire win for Ruiz. And the whyte vs chisora fight has to be made again, awesome old school scrap!
Was that fight a robbery.
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 21:36
by In the know 85
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:In the know 85 wrote:I'd like to see the Ruiz vs Parker rematch in America! Sure fire win for Ruiz. And the whyte vs chisora fight has to be made again, awesome old school scrap!
Was that fight a robbery.
Which fight you talking about?
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 21:38
by In the know 85
Grailer wrote:In the know 85 wrote:I'd like to see the Ruiz vs Parker rematch in America! Sure fire win for Ruiz. And the whyte vs chisora fight has to be made again, awesome old school scrap!
Better Idea!
Lets see
Ruiz vs Chisora
Parker vs Whyte
and the winner fights of both face each other
I don't think Parker won, I had Ruiz by at least a round, the fact he couldn't stop Parker was the nail in the coffin for Ruiz, he was never gonna get a decision in New Zealand! and I had whyte vs chisora 114-114!
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 21:40
by gilgamesh
I'd rather not see Ruiz vs Parker again. Fight was pretty dull I thought, and I thought Parker deserved the win. It was close, it certainly wasn't a robbery, and if anybody could do better in a rematch it'd be Parker I'd imagine.
I don't think anybody would object to a Whyte vs Chisora rematch. That was a great scrap.
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 21:42
by ClivePatrickLyons
In the know 85 wrote:ClivePatrickLyons wrote:In the know 85 wrote:I'd like to see the Ruiz vs Parker rematch in America! Sure fire win for Ruiz. And the whyte vs chisora fight has to be made again, awesome old school scrap!
Was that fight a robbery.
Which fight you talking about?
The very very close WBO Heavyweight Title fight.

Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 21:46
by In the know 85
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:In the know 85 wrote:ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
Was that fight a robbery.
Which fight you talking about?
The very very close WBO Heavyweight Title fight.

I don't think you could call any very close fight a robbery but the fact fact they gave it to their national hero by only a round or two says it all! I had Ruiz just shading it, so did a lot of knowledgable people.
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 21:52
by ClivePatrickLyons
In the know 85 wrote:ClivePatrickLyons wrote:In the know 85 wrote:
Which fight you talking about?
The very very close WBO Heavyweight Title fight.

I don't think you could call any very close fight a robbery but the fact fact they gave it to their national hero by only a round or two says it all! I had Ruiz just shading it, so did a lot of knowledgable people.
I know a lot of knowledgable people who like me had Parker the deserved winner wich he was end of story bring on the rematch

Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 21:54
by In the know 85
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:In the know 85 wrote:ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
The very very close WBO Heavyweight Title fight.

I don't think you could call any very close fight a robbery but the fact fact they gave it to their national hero by only a round or two says it all! I had Ruiz just shading it, so did a lot of knowledgable people.
I know a lot of knowledgable people who like me had Parker the deserved winner wich he was end of story bring on the rematch

Anywhere other than New Zealand and he would have lost, simple.
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 21:55
by Grailer
In the know 85 wrote:Grailer wrote:In the know 85 wrote:I'd like to see the Ruiz vs Parker rematch in America! Sure fire win for Ruiz. And the whyte vs chisora fight has to be made again, awesome old school scrap!
Better Idea!
Lets see
Ruiz vs Chisora
Parker vs Whyte
and the winner fights of both face each other
I don't think Parker won, I had Ruiz by at least a round, the fact he couldn't stop Parker was the nail in the coffin for Ruiz, he was never gonna get a decision in New Zealand! and I had whyte vs chisora 114-114!
Lucky for Parker you were not one of the judges then :)
Ruiz needs to get in shape , weight watchers or something
lose all that fat and fight as a cruiser weight where he could become a GOAT .
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 21:59
by In the know 85
Grailer wrote:In the know 85 wrote:Grailer wrote:
Better Idea!
Lets see
Ruiz vs Chisora
Parker vs Whyte
and the winner fights of both face each other
I don't think Parker won, I had Ruiz by at least a round, the fact he couldn't stop Parker was the nail in the coffin for Ruiz, he was never gonna get a decision in New Zealand! and I had whyte vs chisora 114-114!
Lucky for Parker you were not one of the judges then :)
Ruiz needs to get in shape , weight watchers or something
lose all that fat and fight as a cruiser weight where he could become a GOAT .
I agree that Ruiz is outta shape, and the fighter you saw vs Parker has already lost 50 lbs, you should have seen him earlier in his career he looked like a sumo! I think he'd be the best cruiserweight on the planet, maybe even light heavy depend on how much he can shed.
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 22:05
by Lackeos
I like the suggestion to have Parker - Whyte and Chisora - Ruiz. Give these fighters a chance to show how they would perform against different styles. We already know that in the previous styles match-up, it was close. It doesn't matter who won by a point or lost by a point, it matters that neither fighter was a clear victor in this particular match-up; and that's just as revealing as if there had been a winner. So now show us a different match-up so we can learn more.
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 23:58
by SaadOffTheDeck
I'd definitely watch where/chisora 2. Once was enough for Parker/Ruiz.
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 12 Dec 2016, 01:54
by jezzamundo
I agree that both Chisora and Ruiz deserve rematches, but I don't really mind if they get them or not, as neither was a robbery. I think Ruiz would beat both Chisora and Whyte. I'd give Whyte a puncher's chance against Parker and think Parker would outpoint Chisora, with an outside chance of stopping him with something big.
Chisora could probably beat Whyte in a rematch if he fought more intelligently.
A Parker-Ruiz rematch would be very interesting. If Ruiz were able to get down to 230lb or less and improve his stamina, he would probably outwork Parker for a decision. If Parker could improve his footspeed and keep the fight on the outside, he should be able to clearly outpoint Ruiz. Both have room for improvement, so whoever improves the most wins the fight.
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 12 Dec 2016, 03:43
by Killer Blow
Whyte should fight Ruiz rather than Parker. If not Ruiz then Chisora rematch or Miller would be great fights for him.
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 12 Dec 2016, 04:16
by the_doctor
jezzamundo wrote:I agree that both Chisora and Ruiz deserve rematches, but I don't really mind if they get them or not, as neither was a robbery. I think Ruiz would beat both Chisora and Whyte. I'd give Whyte a puncher's chance against Parker and think Parker would outpoint Chisora, with an outside chance of stopping him with something big.
Chisora could probably beat Whyte in a rematch if he fought more intelligently.
A Parker-Ruiz rematch would be very interesting. If Ruiz were able to get down to 230lb or less and improve his stamina, he would probably outwork Parker for a decision. If Parker could improve his footspeed and keep the fight on the outside, he should be able to clearly outpoint Ruiz. Both have room for improvement, so whoever improves the most wins the fight.
If Ruiz couldn't get in shape for the first fight he doesn't deserve a rematch on the basis of "he might win if he lost some weight"
I agree that neither was a robbery. I just think "robbery" is the buzz word on here at the moment. We've got people saying they had Ruiz/Del by a couple of rounds or less complaining about the results, it's mental.
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 12 Dec 2016, 04:20
by jezzamundo
the_doctor wrote:jezzamundo wrote:I agree that both Chisora and Ruiz deserve rematches, but I don't really mind if they get them or not, as neither was a robbery. I think Ruiz would beat both Chisora and Whyte. I'd give Whyte a puncher's chance against Parker and think Parker would outpoint Chisora, with an outside chance of stopping him with something big.
Chisora could probably beat Whyte in a rematch if he fought more intelligently.
A Parker-Ruiz rematch would be very interesting. If Ruiz were able to get down to 230lb or less and improve his stamina, he would probably outwork Parker for a decision. If Parker could improve his footspeed and keep the fight on the outside, he should be able to clearly outpoint Ruiz. Both have room for improvement, so whoever improves the most wins the fight.
If Ruiz couldn't get in shape for the first fight he doesn't deserve a rematch on the basis of "he might win if he lost some weight"
I agree that neither was a robbery. I just think "robbery" is the buzz word on here at the moment. We've got people saying they had Ruiz/Del by a couple of rounds or less complaining about the results, it's mental.
Ruiz deserves a rematch on the basis of the first fight being razor close, though it looks like Parker will have to fight Hughie Fury first.
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 12 Dec 2016, 04:24
by littlepug
if I was handling chisora or whyte I would keep them away from each other, fights like that shorten careers dramatically, obviously as a fan I want to see them fight every weekend !
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 12 Dec 2016, 10:02
by Tanzio
Grailer wrote:In the know 85 wrote:I'd like to see the Ruiz vs Parker rematch in America! Sure fire win for Ruiz. And the whyte vs chisora fight has to be made again, awesome old school scrap!
Better Idea!
Lets see
Ruiz vs Chisora
Parker vs Whyte
and the winner fights of both face each other
I like this. Ruiz v Chisora or Whyte would be guaranteed action. Parker I would prefer to see v Pulev or Ortiz or Wilder.
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 12 Dec 2016, 11:03
by jezzamundo
Tanzio wrote:Grailer wrote:In the know 85 wrote:I'd like to see the Ruiz vs Parker rematch in America! Sure fire win for Ruiz. And the whyte vs chisora fight has to be made again, awesome old school scrap!
Better Idea!
Lets see
Ruiz vs Chisora
Parker vs Whyte
and the winner fights of both face each other
I like this. Ruiz v Chisora or Whyte would be guaranteed action. Parker I would prefer to see v Pulev or Ortiz or Wilder.
At this point, I see Ruiz beating both Chisora and Whyte. I'd slightly favour Pulev and Ortiz to outpoint Parker (and Ortiz would have a good chance of a stoppage), while Parker-Wilder is a toss-up.
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 12 Dec 2016, 21:24
by ClivePatrickLyons
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 12 Dec 2016, 21:28
by In the know 85
I meant any other big fight city! Is was a world title after all! Nobody's going to be fighting him in New Zealand anytime soon
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 12 Dec 2016, 21:31
by Evander
You could do Whyte v Chisora 2 but will it have the same passion and give and take, Chisora was very slow to the corner at the end of some rounds.
Re: Two deserved rematches! Ruiz vs Parker whyte vs chisora
Posted: 12 Dec 2016, 21:35
by ClivePatrickLyons
In the know 85 wrote:
I meant any other big fight city! Is was a world title after all! Nobody's going to be fighting him in New Zealand anytime soon
That's boxing Ruiz is one of the best overweight fighter's i'v seen and his speed with his hands is unreal he took the chance and most probably got the lions share of the money if it was in Mexico Ruiz would be Champ Bob Arum got Andy a bullshit deal not the judge's
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