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Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 13 Dec 2016, 20:43
by Tanzio
Let's settle this once and for all.
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 13 Dec 2016, 20:47
by gilgamesh
I don't know who some of these guys are supposed to be, but the answer is obvious.
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 13 Dec 2016, 20:52
by davie
Some of these guys haven't been significant at the top level for long enough to say they've been consistently ducked. Others have no right calling out top opponents
But the answer, quite obviously, is GGG
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 13 Dec 2016, 20:55
by Impractical Poster
Charlie Z
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 13 Dec 2016, 20:57
by tiny_acres
3G
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 13 Dec 2016, 21:10
by Tanzio
Impractical Poster wrote:Charlie Z
Dammit! I knew I forgot somebody.
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 13 Dec 2016, 21:24
by Badhusker
Imo they are GGG, Spence, and Andrade right now.
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 13 Dec 2016, 23:34
by davie
Badhusker wrote:Imo they are GGG, Spence, and Andrade right now.
I think the 154lb division is more just a case of nobody at the top is facing each other.
I've read that Jermal Charlo is being ducked, Andrade is being ducked (why don't they fight each other?), Canelo is ducking everyone ever, Nobody wants to see Lara, so he's ended up fighting Yuri flipping Foreman
It looks like the only guy fighting anyone is Vanes Martirosyan (and he's fought them all)
I think it's just a division where the top guys need to sort their shit out and fight. But if Canelo and Charlo go up a weight class, I'm not sure how many top fights there are for Andrade?
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 01:26
by Tanzio
davie wrote:Badhusker wrote:Imo they are GGG, Spence, and Andrade right now.
I think the 154lb division is more just a case of nobody at the top is facing each other.
I've read that Jermal Charlo is being ducked, Andrade is being ducked (why don't they fight each other?), Canelo is ducking everyone ever, Nobody wants to see Lara, so he's ended up fighting Yuri flipping Foreman
It looks like the only guy fighting anyone is Vanes Martirosyan (and he's fought them all)
I think it's just a division where the top guys need to sort their poo out and fight. But if Canelo and Charlo go up a weight class, I'm not sure how many top fights there are for Andrade?
I should have included Lara since he seems to be avoided a lot these days including by 3G.
Gingerhead has accomplished a lot for a 26 year old pro. There is no excuse for the hit and run on the MW div performed by both Cotto and Gingerhead though. He needs to give someone of worth a fight. Either Charlo, Andrade, 3G, Brook, Spence, Lemieux, Jacobs, anyone besides the winner of Cotto v Kirkland. Close your eyes and pick one.
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 01:54
by SaadOffTheDeck
99% of 'ducking' is bullshit but you would probably be here all night listing guys above andrade. Who? When? Lmao
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 03:16
by Kalan
DUCKING is probably the BIGGEST problem in Boxing in the 21st Century. It should be addressed.
Much of it has been created by that piece of dung Al Haymon... Some of his own fighters are being ducked and he's doing jack about it... Flouncy wristed Oscar De La Hoya is another major contributor to the problem by only matching CanYellow with super easy opponents -- and avoiding massive money fights with GGG, Jermall, Andrade, etc.
Gary Russell is 1 of the most ducked fighters in the world... Featherweight Champions: Mares, Cuellar, Santa Cruz, Frampton, and Selby should already be on his list of KO victims -- but they won't fight him... He's had 1 fight this year and 1 fight last year because he can't find appropriate opponents...
Lomachenko is another ducked fighter who can't get appropriate fights.. The other champions at 130 are being kept away from him because he'll destroy them.. Everybody said, "Move to 130 and you'll get fights." That was the usual BS..
Artur Beterbiev is having trouble getting appropriate fights.. and enough fights to keep him busy.
Luis Ortiz is another guy who's name is not on logical opponent's lips... You think Wilder would fight him???? No?
It's not like Pacquiao wants anything to do with Terence Crawford... or Errol Spence... or Keith Thurman... or even Danny Garcia.. Pac is a ducker
And GGG... Guys have just been ducking him for a lot longer than any of the others.
Guys who seem to be in demand for fights??? ... Paulie Malignaggi... Amir Khan... Daniel Geale... Leo Santa Cruz... Abner Mares... Chris Algieri
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 03:18
by SaadOffTheDeck
Lol, Gary Russell ducks boxing.
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 04:19
by jbizzle20
I'll say Luis Ortiz. He should be fighting for one of the Big 3 belts by now. The fact that he's still getting opponents like David Allen and Malik Scott is a crime.
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 04:27
by jbizzle20
Btw, nobody is ducking Fury. He's ducking Klitschko.
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 04:29
by Kalan
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lol, Gary Russell ducks boxing.
You're a nut case... He's the best Featherweight in the world by far and the other Featherweight Champs won't touch a fight with him.
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 04:46
by SaadOffTheDeck
He doesn't fight at all, ever.
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 04:54
by Bard of Boxrec
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lol, Gary Russell ducks boxing.
Amazing the number of fighters these days who don't actually fight. How do these guys live??
Russell is WBC champ isn't he? There must be mandatory coming up.
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 05:12
by SaadOffTheDeck
Riddick Blowe wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lol, Gary Russell ducks boxing.
Amazing the number of fighters these days who don't actually fight. How do these guys live??
Russell is WBC champ isn't he? There must be mandatory coming up.
They're absurdly overpaid. I'm not rich, nor por, but I coukd chill for a but with 500k or so cash.
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 05:35
by Jip
rigo
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 05:39
by DannyMCR
Rigondeaux
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 06:24
by Tanzio
jbizzle20 wrote:I'll say Luis Ortiz. He should be fighting for one of the Big 3 belts by now. The fact that he's still getting opponents like David Allen and Malik Scott is a crime.
Ortiz = Oldtiz in the poll.
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 06:26
by Tanzio
Jip wrote:rigo
DannyMCR wrote:Rigondeaux
Two votes for Rigo. Another that I forgot to include.
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Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 06:40
by caldo2025
I voted for GGG but I think that he is about to be dethroned for this imaginary title to both Spence Jr. and Lomachenko. As GGG gets longer in the tooth, more people will begin testing him out especially if GGG extends this current layoff that he's on. Not good for a boxer that normally fights 3 times a year to cut down and get accustomed to life outside the ring.
Spence Jr was "supposed" to be someone's mandatory at 147 but he still doesn't have a fight on tap 4 months after his last ring walk. No one wants to touch this kid. Loma is going to be in the same boat and he's definitely going to have to head east on the scale to get anyone to sign on to fight him after ruining Walters career.
If Boxing was run like the UFC, GGG/Spence/Loma would probably be the highest grossing fighters in the sport. But instead, Boxing's best fighters would not appear on any top 10 in total revenue earned in any given year. Instead, Boxing's top earner is a ginger who admittedly ducks fights. Sad.
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 11:18
by Tanzio
3G appears to be running away with it. But Rigo has two write in votes and the Let's Go Champ contingent is showing strength with four votes.
Spence should not be sitting around like an Andrade or TRex Jr. Fight someone Errol, anyone.
Re: Most ducked boxer?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 11:26
by punchoutsb
Why do we care who fights who when every single fight result is a robbery anyway?
