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The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 13:17
by ValMar
Joshua-Klitschko winner vs Parker-Wilder winner, November/December 2017 ?
If I could catch the golden fish, it would be my wish. What abot you ? Realistic or not (match, not golden fish) ?
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 13:19
by Tony1244
Chances are close to zero.
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 13:33
by Tanzio
Winner of Joshua v WKlit becomes king of the hill.
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 15:23
by Crease
Tanzio wrote:Winner of Joshua v WKlit becomes king of the hill.
Parker has expressed an interest in AJ.
It would be nice to see a Heavyweight clean up all the belts...
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 15:46
by mansy
The fights are there to be made in 2017 and there shouldnt be any promotional issues that stop at least three or four of these fights materialising. I also would love to see the belts cleaned up quickly, to encourage some proper matchups, but is that just wishful thinking as boxing has become so very frustrating to watch. with all the wwe style nonsense combined canyellow and chickenson etc
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 17:25
by Syntax Error
Hold your horses folks: 'Prince' Charles Martin is threatening to return in 2017 to take out Anthony Joshua!
Once he's done that, he'll end Wladmir's career & unify all the belts!
Don't forget that he's Bruce Lee & he will not be denied!

Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 19:25
by davie
When all of those guys settle their scores and face off and we can crown one champion to rule them all....
What happens when Fury comes back? Because he will and he's the number 1 heavyweight on the planet on merit!
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 19:40
by lazboy
I've just watched the AJ - Klit press conference. Klit is really pumped, really alive. What happened when AJ sparred him? Does anyone know. AJ downplayed sparring klitchko and sparring in general, see interview with Michelle Joy Phelps.
Plus- I reckon he banged her after this was filmed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSsTuClKqG0
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 21:19
by BitPlayer
Tanzio wrote:Winner of Joshua v WKlit becomes king of the hill.
Not convincingly enough, maybe the top contender, really to get close you'd need the winner of Wlad-Joshua to fight the winner of Wilder-Povetkin (please not fornicating Wlad-Povetkin 2). And thats without Fury coming back.
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 21:31
by Tanzio
davie wrote:When all of those guys settle their scores and face off and we can crown one champion to rule them all....
What happens when Fury comes back? Because he will and he's the number 1 heavyweight on the planet on merit!
Call us when he extracts his head from the snow bank.
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 21:47
by Tanzio
BitPlayer wrote:Tanzio wrote:Winner of Joshua v WKlit becomes king of the hill.
Not convincingly enough, maybe the top contender, really to get close you'd need the winner of Wlad-Joshua to fight the winner of Wilder-Povetkin (please not effing Wlad-Povetkin 2). And thats without Fury coming back.
I think that WKlit retires, win or lose. If he wins, he has nothing left to prove. Fury ducked WKlit, not the other way around. Fury is the one who has something to prove if he ever manages to stop giving himself a mental breakdown in order to avoid a rematch with WKlit.
Just stop with this Fury The Snowman apologist crap. He is a drunken druggy until further notice. He is not the world champion. He waved the white flag without a fight. He is an ex-champion of the world by way of slipping by the #1 HW of this millennium at the age of 40.
The most feared HW in the world right now is Joshua, and the second most feared is WKlit. They are stepping into the ring to settle matters, while Fury is hiding behind mental issues largely caused and exacerbated by his lack of discipline.
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 22:23
by davie
Tanzio wrote:davie wrote:When all of those guys settle their scores and face off and we can crown one champion to rule them all....
What happens when Fury comes back? Because he will and he's the number 1 heavyweight on the planet on merit!
Call us when he extracts his head from the snow bank.
That doesn't answer the question I asked though, does it?
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 22:34
by Tanzio
davie wrote:Tanzio wrote:davie wrote:When all of those guys settle their scores and face off and we can crown one champion to rule them all....
What happens when Fury comes back? Because he will and he's the number 1 heavyweight on the planet on merit!
Call us when he extracts his head from the snow bank.
That doesn't answer the question I asked though, does it?
When Fury The Snowman comes back? First of all, who says he is coming back? IF he does come back he is not number 1. He is not champ. Furthermore, if he comes back and tries to take on top level fighters who never left he is going to get his ass handed to him. Even Ali had to fight some tune ups before going in with Frazier and he still was not ready.
Fury is likely finished, whether he attempts a comeback or not. He had his window of opportunity and it has closed. History tells us he is burned toast.
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 23:41
by SFW
After the Jennings and Fury fight, where Vlad went from poor to abysmal, Klitschko became less dangerous. He doesn't like to mix it up, can't consistently pull the trigger, doesn't throw a lot.. If Vlad is refreshed and gets his old form back then he is super dangerous.
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 15 Dec 2016, 03:30
by Grailer
WK retires after sparking AJ .
He wont fight Parker because he got sparked by Parker in sparring
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 15 Dec 2016, 05:27
by Loki
Grailer wrote:WK retires after sparking AJ .
He wont fight Parker because he got sparked by Parker in sparring
Source?
Parker v Wilder would be interesting. Perhaps it might happen on the undercard of Klitschko v AJ. Doubtful but possible. I got to give Matchroom kudos, Eddie has reinvigorated UK boxing with some great cards.
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 15 Dec 2016, 06:06
by Rob3_142
Loki wrote:Grailer wrote:WK retires after sparking AJ .
He wont fight Parker because he got sparked by Parker in sparring
Source?
Parker v Wilder would be interesting. Perhaps it might happen on the undercard of Klitschko v AJ. Doubtful but possible. I got to give Matchroom kudos, Eddie has reinvigorated UK boxing with some great cards.
Not this one mate, there'll be a few low key fights with the masses of money split between the two.
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 15 Dec 2016, 06:13
by Rob3_142
davie wrote:When all of those guys settle their scores and face off and we can crown one champion to rule them all....
What happens when Fury comes back? Because he will and he's the number 1 heavyweight on the planet on merit!
When/if Fury comes back, he'll find himself the back of the queue again. His one win against Klitschko won't elevate him to all time great status. When/if he comes back, the contenders for top of the tree will have already met one another, and we'll have a better idea of who's #1. When it's all said and done, he could struggle to get back inside the top 5 again.
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 15 Dec 2016, 07:07
by BitPlayer
Tanzio wrote:BitPlayer wrote:Tanzio wrote:Winner of Joshua v WKlit becomes king of the hill.
Not convincingly enough, maybe the top contender, really to get close you'd need the winner of Wlad-Joshua to fight the winner of Wilder-Povetkin (please not effing Wlad-Povetkin 2). And thats without Fury coming back.
I think that WKlit retires, win or lose. If he wins, he has nothing left to prove. Fury ducked WKlit, not the other way around. Fury is the one who has something to prove if he ever manages to stop giving himself a mental breakdown in order to avoid a rematch with WKlit.
Just stop with this Fury The Snowman apologist crap. He is a drunken druggy until further notice. He is not the world champion. He waved the white flag without a fight. He is an ex-champion of the world by way of slipping by the #1 HW of this millennium at the age of 40.
The most feared HW in the world right now is Joshua, and the second most feared is WKlit. They are stepping into the ring to settle matters, while Fury is hiding behind mental issues largely caused and exacerbated by his lack of discipline.
Really, so he beat him in second gear then was scared of the rematch? Bollocks.
Mental illness is something Fury has talked about having for years, and something he definitely showed signs of in the rematch. Mental health is a very serious issue and glibly dismissing it is at least on par withthe worst Tyson Fury has said.
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 15 Dec 2016, 16:05
by ValMar
Opening this topic, I have not mentioned Fury. He has no belt, so it is meaningless consider him as a potential undisputed champion in next year.
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 15 Dec 2016, 16:21
by BitPlayer
ValMar wrote:Opening this topic, I have not mentioned Fury. He has no belt, so it is meaningless consider him as a potential undisputed champion in next year.
He has The Ring belt AFAIK, and in my opinion is still the lineal champ.
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 15 Dec 2016, 16:31
by Jip
josh-wlad, winner will be josh
josh is than gonne face haye in summer, the fight just makes to much sense and britains gonne love the match up, josh gonne win
wilder-parker, winner will be wilder, he also will not fight much because of his injury, guess only 1 fight in 2017
ortiz-some chump, winner will be ortiz
so, yes, i am very much certain that 2017 we wont know who the true #1 is. 2018, josh gonne face wilder, ortiz will be totaly past prime and the outcome of the fight will determin the #1. end 2017, early 2018 is my guess.
i think we will have more chance to determin who truly is the best lh in the world, than who the #1 hw is. ward wants to retire, latest news, he wasnt any good anyway. kovalev-bertebiev & adonis will happen in 17
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 15 Dec 2016, 16:46
by ValMar
BitPlayer wrote:ValMar wrote:Opening this topic, I have not mentioned Fury. He has no belt, so it is meaningless consider him as a potential undisputed champion in next year.
He has The Ring belt AFAIK, and in my opinion is still the lineal champ.

Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 15 Dec 2016, 17:21
by rd350lc
BitPlayer wrote:ValMar wrote:Opening this topic, I have not mentioned Fury. He has no belt, so it is meaningless consider him as a potential undisputed champion in next year.
He has The Ring belt AFAIK, and in my opinion is still the lineal champ.
when will people let it go ? it's getting a bit tiresome now .
when he get's into shape , gets a boxing licensce and wins some fights people can big him up , until then .............
Re: The undisputed HW champion - 2017 ?
Posted: 15 Dec 2016, 17:23
by Tony1244
BitPlayer wrote:ValMar wrote:Opening this topic, I have not mentioned Fury. He has no belt, so it is meaningless consider him as a potential undisputed champion in next year.
He has The Ring belt AFAIK,
and in my opinion is still the lineal champ.
Yeah, so is Gene Tunney.