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cause my view on a fight is more important to me, than what other people think (judges). thats why i totaly not accept official judging, cause i am a judge and when i see someone losing, than he lost.

for example serguy kovalev is an undefeated boxer, floyd mayweather is 45-3-1, you get my point. i dont need to be to much worried about robbery, because i truly know who realy won and if its close and nobody did sh/(t at all, than its a draw, like mayweather-pacquiao, both sucked and did nothing at all.

Just keep it to yourself, pointless post! More so if you gamble on boxing like most do! Something that should just stay in your head, like a shocking oppinion.

Jip, yes you are the only one. "in the know" mentioned the gambling aspect of it, and most of us have a sense of justice that we want the winner to win.

Having said that, the recent Ward and Parker wins were quite close.

Who were the three losses and draw for Mayweather?

I can guess two I think but I'm struggling for any more.

I don't scream robbery every time a close decision doesn't go the way I think it should've, but if I think a guy deserved the fight 8 rounds to 4 or 9 rounds to 3 or wider then he definitely got robbed, and I'm not happy about it.

Even when favorites of mine get the benefit of a decision they don't deserve I don't like seeing it. The winner deserves his win.

If it's a close fight that truly could've went either way in all fairness there should probably be a rematch at some point in the near future in most cases, though sometimes I'd be fine with just leaving it as it is.

Like in the case of Parker vs Ruiz for instance. I did think Parker won. I did think it was close...but it wasn't much of a fight and I wouldn't care to see it again.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Who were the three losses and draw for Mayweather?

I can guess two I think but I'm struggling for any more.

Based on his comments I'd say the 3 losses and a draw are JLC, Maidana, DLH (Losses) and Pac (draw)

Which is pretty ridiculous. I do believe Maidana beat Floyd by a hair, but it was close enough that I don't argue with the official outcome.

I KNOW JLC beat Floyd, and that result will always piss me off.

Floyd beat De La Hoya clearly. People claiming robbery on that one expose themselves as Floyd haters who can't objectively score a fight.

Floyd beat Pac clearly too

Even if judges give one round clearly won by one fighter to another one in order to give the latter victory, I am upset. The fact that hometown fighters have to only win 4-5 rounds to get a victory makes me upset too.

And by the way, I know that I deserve a Nobel Prize most of all, so I don't care that they give it to other people

All fights that come to a final bell are subjective opinion-based and often disputed contested.

A stoppage win is as pure an outcome as there is in any sport. Ironically judges scorecards are the opposite.

No you're not the only one, my neighbourhood is fairly safe.

gilgamesh wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Who were the three losses and draw for Mayweather?

I can guess two I think but I'm struggling for any more.

Based on his comments I'd say the 3 losses and a draw are JLC, Maidana, DLH (Losses) and Pac (draw)

Which is pretty ridiculous. I do believe Maidana beat Floyd by a hair, but it was close enough that I don't argue with the official outcome.

I KNOW JLC beat Floyd, and that result will always piss me off.

Floyd beat De La Hoya clearly. People claiming robbery on that one expose themselves as Floyd haters who can't objectively score a fight.

Floyd beat Pac clearly too

floyd lost to castillo
floyd won against de la hoya
floyd draw with pacquiao (both did nothing)
floyd lost to maidana
floyd lost to maidana II (i disqualified floyd for to much holding, clinching, also i dont recognise the ref in this fight who never let maidana do, what he does best and thats boxing from inside, it was "breeaaakkk, step away" all the time)

Jip wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Who were the three losses and draw for Mayweather?

I can guess two I think but I'm struggling for any more.

Based on his comments I'd say the 3 losses and a draw are JLC, Maidana, DLH (Losses) and Pac (draw)

Which is pretty ridiculous. I do believe Maidana beat Floyd by a hair, but it was close enough that I don't argue with the official outcome.

I KNOW JLC beat Floyd, and that result will always piss me off.

Floyd beat De La Hoya clearly. People claiming robbery on that one expose themselves as Floyd haters who can't objectively score a fight.

Floyd beat Pac clearly too

floyd lost to castillo
floyd won against de la hoya
floyd draw with pacquiao (both did nothing)
floyd lost to maidana
floyd lost to maidana II (i disqualified floyd for to much holding, clinching, also i dont recognise the ref in this fight who never let maidana do, what he does best and thats boxing from inside, it was "breeaaakkk, step away" all the time)

You disqualified him? Are you insane?

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

Jip wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Based on his comments I'd say the 3 losses and a draw are JLC, Maidana, DLH (Losses) and Pac (draw)

Which is pretty ridiculous. I do believe Maidana beat Floyd by a hair, but it was close enough that I don't argue with the official outcome.

I KNOW JLC beat Floyd, and that result will always piss me off.

Floyd beat De La Hoya clearly. People claiming robbery on that one expose themselves as Floyd haters who can't objectively score a fight.

Floyd beat Pac clearly too

floyd lost to castillo
floyd won against de la hoya
floyd draw with pacquiao (both did nothing)
floyd lost to maidana
floyd lost to maidana II (i disqualified floyd for to much holding, clinching, also i dont recognise the ref in this fight who never let maidana do, what he does best and thats boxing from inside, it was "breeaaakkk, step away" all the time)

You disqualified him? Are you insane?

yes i did. like i dq'd wlad for most of his fight. did you know excesive holding is illegal. THIS IS BOXING, not greco roman wrestling, if floyd and wlad think they are greco roman wrestler, great, but than i disqualify them!!!

Jip wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

Jip wrote:

floyd lost to castillo
floyd won against de la hoya
floyd draw with pacquiao (both did nothing)
floyd lost to maidana
floyd lost to maidana II (i disqualified floyd for to much holding, clinching, also i dont recognise the ref in this fight who never let maidana do, what he does best and thats boxing from inside, it was "breeaaakkk, step away" all the time)

You disqualified him? Are you insane?

yes i did. like i dq'd wlad for most of his fight. did you know excesive holding is illegal. THIS IS BOXING, not greco roman wrestling, if floyd and wlad think they are greco roman wrestler, great, but than i disqualify them!!!

Yes I am insane would have been shorter.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

Jip wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
You disqualified him? Are you insane?

yes i did. like i dq'd wlad for most of his fight. did you know excesive holding is illegal. THIS IS BOXING, not greco roman wrestling, if floyd and wlad think they are greco roman wrestler, great, but than i disqualify them!!!

Yes I am insane would have been shorter.

i make sense, even shorter

Jip wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

Jip wrote:

yes i did. like i dq'd wlad for most of his fight. did you know excesive holding is illegal. THIS IS BOXING, not greco roman wrestling, if floyd and wlad think they are greco roman wrestler, great, but than i disqualify them!!!

Yes I am insane would have been shorter.

i make sense, even shorter

But this is boxing and you said you're a judge...judges can't disqualify boxers. Are you also a referee?

This is high level stuff--your ability to change fight outcomes by taking on different in-ring roles! So can't you just say Pacquaio beat Mayweather because you worked his corner and told him to throw more punches?

punchoutsb wrote:

Jip wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
Yes I am insane would have been shorter.

i make sense, even shorter

But this is boxing and you said you're a judge...judges can't disqualify boxers. Are you also a referee?

This is high level stuff--your ability to change fight outcomes by taking on different in-ring roles! So can't you just say Pacquaio beat Mayweather because you worked his corner and told him to throw more punches?

what i meant is, that i judge who wins and who losses for me, i got my on mind, my on views and i decide who wins and who losses.

Jip wrote:cause my view on a fight is more important to me, than what other people think (judges). thats why i totaly not accept official judging, cause i am a judge and when i see someone losing, than he lost.

for example serguy kovalev is an undefeated boxer, floyd mayweather is 45-3-1, you get my point. i dont need to be to much worried about robbery, because i truly know who realy won and if its close and nobody did sh/(t at all, than its a draw, like mayweather-pacquiao, both sucked and did nothing at all.

I think I remember you raising a lot of issue with the Kovalev decision. being a robbery.

BTW, judges cannot disqualify people.

Impractical Poster wrote:

Jip wrote:cause my view on a fight is more important to me, than what other people think (judges). thats why i totaly not accept official judging, cause i am a judge and when i see someone losing, than he lost.

for example serguy kovalev is an undefeated boxer, floyd mayweather is 45-3-1, you get my point. i dont need to be to much worried about robbery, because i truly know who realy won and if its close and nobody did sh/(t at all, than its a draw, like mayweather-pacquiao, both sucked and did nothing at all.

I think I remember you raising a lot of issue with the Kovalev decision. being a robbery.

BTW, judges cannot disqualify people.

you dont get the point

Jip wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Jip wrote:

i make sense, even shorter

But this is boxing and you said you're a judge...judges can't disqualify boxers. Are you also a referee?

This is high level stuff--your ability to change fight outcomes by taking on different in-ring roles! So can't you just say Pacquaio beat Mayweather because you worked his corner and told him to throw more punches?

what i meant is, that i judge who wins and who losses for me, i got my on mind, my on views and i decide who wins and who losses.

So then the only question that remains is:

Do you realize that that doesn't matter and only the official result does?

Jip's the Charlie Z of scoring fights.

punchoutsb wrote:

Jip wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:
But this is boxing and you said you're a judge...judges can't disqualify boxers. Are you also a referee?

This is high level stuff--your ability to change fight outcomes by taking on different in-ring roles! So can't you just say Pacquaio beat Mayweather because you worked his corner and told him to throw more punches?

what i meant is, that i judge who wins and who losses for me, i got my on mind, my on views and i decide who wins and who losses.

So then the only question that remains is:

Do you realize that that doesn't matter and only the official result does?

no, i live my life, why should it matter to me what some officials who i never met or know do?

nothing matters anyway. there is no reason in anything. but what i know is, that my view on something is more important to me, than what some so called officials view is.

Jip wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Jip wrote:

what i meant is, that i judge who wins and who losses for me, i got my on mind, my on views and i decide who wins and who losses.

So then the only question that remains is:

Do you realize that that doesn't matter and only the official result does?

no, i live my life, why should it matter to me what some officials who i never met or know do?

nothing matters anyway. there is no reason in anything. but what i know is, that my view on something is more important to me, than what some so called officials view is.

That was deep.

"robberies"

Jip wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Jip wrote:

what i meant is, that i judge who wins and who losses for me, i got my on mind, my on views and i decide who wins and who losses.

So then the only question that remains is:

Do you realize that that doesn't matter and only the official result does?

no, i live my life, why should it matter to me what some officials who i never met or know do?

nothing matters anyway. there is no reason in anything. but what i know is, that my view on something is more important to me, than what some so called officials view is.

Amazing. How far does this way of thinking fall in your life? Is it just boxing or are there certain laws you don't follow? Certain bills or fees you don't pay?

I mean it's not an issue if everyone watched and remembered every fight.