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If this is true and Oscar is serious then GGG should take it. Probably ODLH and Canelo would make 100 millions from this fight but 15 for GGG ain't peanuts. Canelo made less money when he fought FMJ and Cotto. Anyway it may be just bull$hit and nothing more.

You should stop seeing yourself Golovkin's manager and let Golovkin and his his real manager make decisions. I hope they don't agree to 15% of the potential purse.

Canela is one fight away from disaster.

His next bouts will be at the higher weights; he will beat Chavez, then will outprice himself for GGG, and instead will fight a Jacobs, a Lemieux or even lower oponnent, and will look bad/ be knocked down/ lose.

Bye bye 50 mill.

I highly doubt that this is true. I think that GGG would probably jump all over that money if it meant that he'd finally get him into the ring don't you think? Sure, Canelo would be making a ton more but I think that this kind of deal is the only way this one gets done. So GGG has to look at 15m or nothing at this point. Considering this is an easy nights work for him, i'd think he'd be crazy to not drop everything and sign that one.

caldo2025 wrote:I highly doubt that this is true. I think that GGG would probably jump all over that money if it meant that he'd finally get him into the ring don't you think? Sure, Canelo would be making a ton more but I think that this kind of deal is the only way this one gets done. So GGG has to look at 15m or nothing at this point. Considering this is an easy nights work for him, i'd think he'd be crazy to not drop everything and sign that one.

It is not an easy night work. Canelo got skills, some power and chin. He is likely the toughest opponent at 160. GGG is already 35 and has everything to lose, while Canelo is expected to lose, so when he actually does, it will not affect his status badly.

caldo2025 wrote:I highly doubt that this is true. I think that GGG would probably jump all over that money if it meant that he'd finally get him into the ring don't you think? Sure, Canelo would be making a ton more but I think that this kind of deal is the only way this one gets done. So GGG has to look at 15m or nothing at this point. Considering this is an easy nights work for him, i'd think he'd be crazy to not drop everything and sign that one.

I think Canelo would UD GGG. GGG is old and he's easy to hit.

Ward - Kovalev made something like $8 million, and that was basically the best possible fight in the world at any weight. So go easy on the $100 million estimates. Alvarez - Golovkin seems like it would be a $25 million fight to me.

Lackeos wrote:Ward - Kovalev made something like $8 million, and that was basically the best possible fight in the world at any weight. So go easy on the $100 million estimates. Alvarez - Golovkin seems like it would be a $25 million fight to me.

It is never about "best possible fight" from a level and competitiveness standpoint. Neither Ward, nor even Kovalev can compare in drawing power with Golovkin to say nothing of Canelo who is currently the biggest draw in the sport. With good promotion, Canelo vs Golovkin could do 1.5-2 mil ppv sales.

boxing_rocks wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:I highly doubt that this is true. I think that GGG would probably jump all over that money if it meant that he'd finally get him into the ring don't you think? Sure, Canelo would be making a ton more but I think that this kind of deal is the only way this one gets done. So GGG has to look at 15m or nothing at this point. Considering this is an easy nights work for him, i'd think he'd be crazy to not drop everything and sign that one.

It is not an easy night work. Canelo got skills, some power and chin. He is likely the toughest opponent at 160. GGG is already 35 and has everything to lose, while Canelo is expected to lose, so when he actually does, it will not affect his status badly.

How many times are we going to hear that "This guy" is GGG's toughest opponent? He's crippling everyone and this fight will be no different. In fact, i think it might be more brutal given Canelo's reluctance to back up and inability to utilize the ring. GGG won't have to go looking for him and that's a recipe for a hospital visit. They should just get his room ready the night before.

apollo creed wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:I highly doubt that this is true. I think that GGG would probably jump all over that money if it meant that he'd finally get him into the ring don't you think? Sure, Canelo would be making a ton more but I think that this kind of deal is the only way this one gets done. So GGG has to look at 15m or nothing at this point. Considering this is an easy nights work for him, i'd think he'd be crazy to not drop everything and sign that one.

I think Canelo would UD GGG. GGG is old and he's easy to hit.

You've got two guys with the same style coming forward at each other and you think that Canelo's power and speed will top GGG's head to head? Not even close. Canelo's not running from anyone and MW can't stand in front of GGG so what makes you think a midget like Canelo can?

The only style that can beat GGG's is a Lara type fighter with premier boxing ability and the stamina to keep moving non stop or 12 rounds like he did against Canelo. But even Lara isn't good enough to do it. So i'm basically saying that this person does not exist. They might be making him in a lab somewhere but he's not walking around today.

Lackeos wrote:Ward - Kovalev made something like $8 million, and that was basically the best possible fight in the world at any weight. So go easy on the $100 million estimates. Alvarez - Golovkin seems like it would be a $25 million fight to me.

GGG has more drawing power than Ward or Kovalev, not to mention about Canelo who is the PPV king atm. Canelo vs GGG fight would generate huge numbers.

caldo2025 wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:I highly doubt that this is true. I think that GGG would probably jump all over that money if it meant that he'd finally get him into the ring don't you think? Sure, Canelo would be making a ton more but I think that this kind of deal is the only way this one gets done. So GGG has to look at 15m or nothing at this point. Considering this is an easy nights work for him, i'd think he'd be crazy to not drop everything and sign that one.

I think Canelo would UD GGG. GGG is old and he's easy to hit.

You've got two guys with the same style coming forward at each other and you think that Canelo's power and speed will top GGG's head to head? Not even close. Canelo's not running from anyone and MW can't stand in front of GGG so what makes you think a midget like Canelo can?

The only style that can beat GGG's is a Lara type fighter with premier boxing ability and the stamina to keep moving non stop or 12 rounds like he did against Canelo. But even Lara isn't good enough to do it. So i'm basically saying that this person does not exist. They might be making him in a lab somewhere but he's not walking around today.

Nope, guys like Lara are GGG's favorite dish. Canelo is a top level combination puncher with good speed and a solid beard. GGG would have a tough, tough night.

caldo2025 wrote:I highly doubt that this is true. I think that GGG would probably jump all over that money if it meant that he'd finally get him into the ring don't you think? Sure, Canelo would be making a ton more but I think that this kind of deal is the only way this one gets done. So GGG has to look at 15m or nothing at this point. Considering this is an easy nights work for him, i'd think he'd be crazy to not drop everything and sign that one.

I don't know if this rumour is true or not but we do know for certain that Cotto received $15m to face Canelo. Amir Khan earned $13m to fight Alvarez (includes PPV revenue share). And we also know that GBP has previously offered GGG $10m for him to take the fight against the ginger haired Mexican.

So whilst it's merely a baseless rumour, what is actually being claimed is not too unrealistic.

I don't wanna no more of the offers and bullshit drama about GGG vs Canelo. I wanna hear the fight is signed or I don't wanna hear about it at all anymore. I'm sick of all the BS.

boxing_rocks wrote:

Lackeos wrote:Ward - Kovalev made something like $8 million, and that was basically the best possible fight in the world at any weight. So go easy on the $100 million estimates. Alvarez - Golovkin seems like it would be a $25 million fight to me.

It is never about "best possible fight" from a level and competitiveness standpoint. Neither Ward, nor even Kovalev can compare in drawing power with Golovkin to say nothing of Canelo who is currently the biggest draw in the sport. With good promotion, Canelo vs Golovkin could do 1.5-2 mil ppv sales.

Golovkins PPV numbers wernt all that special either though to be honest.

caldo2025 wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:I highly doubt that this is true. I think that GGG would probably jump all over that money if it meant that he'd finally get him into the ring don't you think? Sure, Canelo would be making a ton more but I think that this kind of deal is the only way this one gets done. So GGG has to look at 15m or nothing at this point. Considering this is an easy nights work for him, i'd think he'd be crazy to not drop everything and sign that one.

I think Canelo would UD GGG. GGG is old and he's easy to hit.

You've got two guys with the same style coming forward at each other and you think that Canelo's power and speed will top GGG's head to head? Not even close. Canelo's not running from anyone and MW can't stand in front of GGG so what makes you think a midget like Canelo can?

The only style that can beat GGG's is a Lara type fighter with premier boxing ability and the stamina to keep moving non stop or 12 rounds like he did against Canelo. But even Lara isn't good enough to do it. So i'm basically saying that this person does not exist. They might be making him in a lab somewhere but he's not walking around today.

Canelo doesn't fight like Golovkin. He likes to counter punch a lot more.

apollo creed wrote:There are some rumours that ODLH made a 15 mill. flat offer to GGG

Dan Rafael has confirmed that this isn't a rumour. Eric Gomez from GBP stated that a $15m offer was submitted to K2, but was not accepted. Apparently the sticking point is that GGG's side wants a percentage instead of a flat fee.

$100/$50 million for Canelo and $15 million for the reigning champ................

seriously does anyone believe ODLH about anything ? He is just a bloated gas-bag . 100% bullshit

It's not a fair offer considering GGG is the mw king but we must not forget that when Canelo fought FMJ he didn't get so much money and by that time Canelo was a bigger name than GGG is atm.

The guaranteed purse for Canelo when he fought FMJ was about 5 m.

GGG should take the offer and if he beats The Gingerboy, then he can call the shots in rematch and other fights.

That is a hell of a lot of cash though.....Im not sure this is such a big fight that GGG loses much if he takes that over a %, and what other fights get him close to $15m? If he wins he'll likely be able to earn more for a rematch, and if there isnt a rematch his drawing power will probably still have increased anyway.

Considering GGG's age, the lack of other major fights, and his current career high of around $5m, it doesnt look like a terrible offer.

apollo creed wrote:I think Canelo would UD GGG. GGG is old and he's easy to hit.

I agree, but I think Canelo is going to run and get credit for weak flurries a la DLH.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

apollo creed wrote:I think Canelo would UD GGG. GGG is old and he's easy to hit.

I agree, but I think Canelo is going to run and get credit for weak flurries a la DLH.

Canelo doesn't have the ability of Lara to run since he's a stiff-legged fighter but I think we may be surprised about how strong would be Canelo against GGG and how his combination punches would land on GGG. Also I think Canelo would take well GGG's power-counters. Gingerboy has a strong chin and a strong neck too.

crusader wrote:That is a hell of a lot of cash though.....Im not sure this is such a big fight that GGG loses much if he takes that over a %, and what other fights get him close to $15m? If he wins he'll likely be able to earn more for a rematch, and if there isnt a rematch his drawing power will probably still have increased anyway.

Considering GGG's age, the lack of other major fights, and his current career high of around $5m, it doesnt look like a terrible offer.

Winning or losing, 15 m $ is life changing money.

apollo creed wrote:If this is true and Oscar is serious then GGG should take it. Probably ODLH and Canelo would make 100 millions from this fight but 15 for GGG ain't peanuts. Canelo made less money when he fought FMJ and Cotto. Anyway it may be just bull$hit and nothing more.

Golovkin would be the draw... He just hasn't had an opponent... Oscar knows this fight will pull 2 million PPV's... Golovkin needs 50/50 at least.. They''ll make 30 or 40 million each -- or the fight won't happen... I wouldn't let anybody screw me when I'm the better fighter.