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Will Povetkin vs. Duhaupas be ruled a No Contest?
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 19:06
by SportsRatings
So normally, when a fighter tests positive for something after a fight, the fight is declared a No Contest. In this case, Povetkin tested positive *before* the fight, which he won....so, how is that different than testing positive *after* a fight?
Obviously, the process will be followed and they'll test the B-sample, but if that comes back positive will they NC the result? It must have been weird for Povetkin to fight knowing that the result might not, or probably won't, stand. But with tickets sold and everything, I guess it makes sense to hold the event even if it's meaningless in the long run.
But maybe it won't be overturned, who knows. Lucas Browne's win over Chagaev still stands because the WBA decided he wasn't to blame.
Can anyone think of another bout where a boxer tested positive before the fight, the positive result was announced to the public, and he fought anyway?
Re: Will Povetkin vs. Duhaupas be ruled a No Contest?
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 19:08
by crusader
Was Jones-Lebedev ever overturned?
Re: Will Povetkin vs. Duhaupas be ruled a No Contest?
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 19:22
by Freedom2013
What makes no sense is why the positive result was announced after the weigh-in for the fight.
And Povetkin tested negative 5 times before the positive result.
Something doesn't add up. How do you get busted on a test just before the fight but not tests leading up to it? It's like he juiced the day before the fight - but that wouldn't do anything for him, it takes time to work.
Either VADA is incompetent (some of their testing that should have busted him a long time ago, didn't) or corrupt (they purposely withheld failed tests until the last minute). And while I'm not claiming this as a fact, a third possibility that VADA falsifies results.
And if he was using, why did Povetkin agree to VADA? No one was forcing you him to do it, so why even take the risk?
Re: Will Povetkin vs. Duhaupas be ruled a No Contest?
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 19:26
by SportsRatings
crusader wrote:Was Jones-Lebedev ever overturned?
That's actually a great case study. If I recall (and Google) correctly, Jones won but tested positive after the fight, both A and B samples, yet the result still stands even though he was eventually stripped of the title (and ordered to fight a rematch?)
In the rematch, Jones tested positive *before* the fight -- thus the fight was cancelled.
Re: Will Povetkin vs. Duhaupas be ruled a No Contest?
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 19:30
by SportsRatings
Freedom2013 wrote:What makes no sense is why the positive result was announced after the weigh-in for the fight.
They probably felt they had to inform his camp to avoid lawsuits for failing to disclose the information. And were hoping he would just go though with the fight anyway. Which he might have, had the bout's sanctioning remained for determining Wilder's mandatory.
Re: Will Povetkin vs. Duhaupas be ruled a No Contest?
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 20:59
by Stuarty
Should be a NC
Re: Will Povetkin vs. Duhaupas be ruled a No Contest?
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 21:15
by Unbiased Expert
Freedom2013 wrote:What makes no sense is why the positive result was announced after the weigh-in for the fight.
And Povetkin tested negative 5 times before the positive result.
Something doesn't add up. How do you get busted on a test just before the fight but not tests leading up to it? It's like he juiced the day before the fight - but that wouldn't do anything for him, it takes time to work.
Either VADA is incompetent (some of their testing that should have busted him a long time ago, didn't) or corrupt (they purposely withheld failed tests until the last minute). And while I'm not claiming this as a fact, a third possibility that VADA falsifies results.
And if he was using, why did Povetkin agree to VADA? No one was forcing you him to do it, so why even take the risk?
Ur retarded
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Good dopers who have experince in that can mask it very good . He and his team failed even in that
Re: Will Povetkin vs. Duhaupas be ruled a No Contest?
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 21:50
by Enlightened-One
SportsRatings wrote:Will Povetkin vs. Duhaupas be ruled a No Contest?
No. Too many fighters have failed drug tests without their resumes being affected.
Re: Will Povetkin vs. Duhaupas be ruled a No Contest?
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 22:10
by dickbelden
no
Re: Will Povetkin vs. Duhaupas be ruled a No Contest?
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 22:50
by Grailer
Either way AP is now ranked number 5 in world.
But by that performance he should be ranked #1