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WBC should do boxing fans a present and enforce Povetkin to fight Wilder or get stripped.

At what point do you submit to stupidity?

Doubtful roids would help that pudgy little man against wilder.

I think it would be a 50/50 fight

I dont see how either has clearly shown that they're a level above the other

Too many gullible people who don't see how protected is Bronze Bummer by wbc allowing him to have endless voluntary defenses. I think somebody doesn't want Wilder to get KTFO before he fights Joshua-W.K fight winner.

Those PED tests may have been intentionally crooked. Money can buy anything and everyone.

If you watch the 2 minute video, there are a few places where Wilder would have KO'd Povetkin. He looked sloppy for the most part.
The mention of no drug testing is moronic. Enough cheating the way it is. Someone has to keep it to a minimum if that is possible.

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Badhusker wrote:If you watch the 2 minute video, there are a few places where Wilder would have KO'd Povetkin. He looked sloppy for the most part.
The mention of no drug testing is moronic. Enough cheating the way it is. Someone has to keep it to a minimum if that is possible.

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Yeah Povetkin had some sloppy moments in this fight but this maybe because he was prepared for a smaller fighter with a different style in Stiverne. Wilder is way more sloppy than Povetkin when he's windmilling.

Tbh, I just want to watch the Putin Bobblhead Dolls scurry around trying to rationalize the situation by blaming others after Pedvetkin gets busted before a few more fights

Stiverne is a Haymon pawn. He could have taken the payday and kicked Povetkin's ass. Povetkin didn't cancel the fight when Stiverne tested positive. Povetkin is a man. Stiverne is a bitch. Stiverne is surely under orders by Haymon to duck Povetkin and then take his next script and payday from Haymon to lose again to Wilder. I guarantee it. Because Haymon can't make any $ with Stiverne as champion. It's not a sport to Haymon it's bu$ine$$.

WBC should show some integrity and remove Povetkin from their rankings.

apollo creed wrote:WBC should do boxing fans a present and enforce Povetkin to fight Wilder or get stripped.

IF Povetkin is proved to have taken an illegal substance, I doubt the WBC will have anything more to do with him.

montrealsuper wrote:Stiverne is a Haymon pawn. He could have taken the payday and kicked Povetkin's ass. Povetkin didn't cancel the fight when Stiverne tested positive. Povetkin is a man. Stiverne is a bitch. Stiverne is surely under orders by Haymon to duck Povetkin and then take his next script and payday from Haymon to lose again to Wilder. I guarantee it. Because Haymon can't make any $ with Stiverne as champion. It's not a sport to Haymon it's bu$ine$$.

Why would Haymon think of boxing as anything but a business? What proof do you have that "Stiverne is a Haymon pawn?" Do you understand the differences between the substances that each boxer tested positive for? What proof do you have that Haymon had anything whatsoever to do with the Pedvetkin fight?

I think Povetkin should stay clean, like he has allways been. Povetkin is easely good enough to beat Wilder in a clean way.

asdfjkl wrote:I think Povetkin should stay clean, like he has allways been. Povetkin is easely good enough to beat Wilder in a clean way.

. . . and bobbing

montrealsuper wrote:Stiverne is a Haymon pawn. He could have taken the payday and kicked Povetkin's ass. Povetkin didn't cancel the fight when Stiverne tested positive. Povetkin is a man. Stiverne is a bitch. Stiverne is surely under orders by Haymon to duck Povetkin and then take his next script and payday from Haymon to lose again to Wilder. I guarantee it. Because Haymon can't make any $ with Stiverne as champion. It's not a sport to Haymon it's bu$ine$$.

Haymon has nothing to do with stiverne.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

montrealsuper wrote:Stiverne is a Haymon pawn. He could have taken the payday and kicked Povetkin's ass. Povetkin didn't cancel the fight when Stiverne tested positive. Povetkin is a man. Stiverne is a bitch. Stiverne is surely under orders by Haymon to duck Povetkin and then take his next script and payday from Haymon to lose again to Wilder. I guarantee it. Because Haymon can't make any $ with Stiverne as champion. It's not a sport to Haymon it's bu$ine$$.

Haymon has nothing to do with stiverne.

Saad don't forget that Haymon is responsible everything wrong with boxing for ever.
Damn did you not get the memo from boxrec?

Badhusker wrote:If you watch the 2 minute video, there are a few places where Wilder would have KO'd Povetkin. He looked sloppy for the most part.
The mention of no drug testing is moronic. Enough cheating the way it is. Someone has to keep it to a minimum if that is possible.

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I can find plenty of moments of Wilder looking sloppy too, including against Duhaupas. Given who was in front of Povetkin, I'm not sure if he was too worried about leaving the occasional opening.

With a 2nd Positive test Povetkin blew any chance he ever had of sharing the ring with Wilder.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

montrealsuper wrote:Stiverne is a Haymon pawn. He could have taken the payday and kicked Povetkin's ass. Povetkin didn't cancel the fight when Stiverne tested positive. Povetkin is a man. Stiverne is a bitch. Stiverne is surely under orders by Haymon to duck Povetkin and then take his next script and payday from Haymon to lose again to Wilder. I guarantee it. Because Haymon can't make any $ with Stiverne as champion. It's not a sport to Haymon it's bu$ine$$.

Haymon has nothing to do with stiverne.

How could one confuse Haymon with Don King? Wonder how that could happen?

The Russian promoters just do it for the love of the game.

Tony1244 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

montrealsuper wrote:Stiverne is a Haymon pawn. He could have taken the payday and kicked Povetkin's ass. Povetkin didn't cancel the fight when Stiverne tested positive. Povetkin is a man. Stiverne is a bitch. Stiverne is surely under orders by Haymon to duck Povetkin and then take his next script and payday from Haymon to lose again to Wilder. I guarantee it. Because Haymon can't make any $ with Stiverne as champion. It's not a sport to Haymon it's bu$ine$$.

Haymon has nothing to do with stiverne.

How could one confuse Haymon with Don King? Wonder how that could happen?

The Russian promoters just do it for the love of the game.

AH is the shot caller not King - Stiverne is being used by AH as a pawn to protect Wilder -

crusader wrote:

Badhusker wrote:If you watch the 2 minute video, there are a few places where Wilder would have KO'd Povetkin. He looked sloppy for the most part.
The mention of no drug testing is moronic. Enough cheating the way it is. Someone has to keep it to a minimum if that is possible.

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2016/12/ale ... ore-223726

I can find plenty of moments of Wilder looking sloppy too, including against Duhaupas. Given who was in front of Povetkin, I'm not sure if he was too worried about leaving the occasional opening.

I agree. Wilder is not a slick technician by a long shot, and is still learning on the job. I think Wilder looks worse when he seems not to be worried also. Stiverne was probably his best performance over-all imo.
My point was more for the guys here that seem to think Povetkin would walk through and beat Wilder easily. I think it would go much like the Wilder/Stiverne fight went.

montrealsuper wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Haymon has nothing to do with stiverne.

How could one confuse Haymon with Don King? Wonder how that could happen?

The Russian promoters just do it for the love of the game.

AH is the shot caller not King - Stiverne is being used by AH as a pawn to protect Wilder -

Congratulations, that's the dumbest thing I've read during all of this Povetkin insanity. You would probably buy his pubic hair to use as dental floss.

Haymon is using Stiverne as a pawn. They got their escape hatch and they took it. If Stiverne was a free man he would have taken the fight anyway. Povetkin did not cancel the fight when Stiverne tested positive in November. Haymon and King have an alliance. That's why King said Stiverne "transferred the belt" to Wilder at the Wilder vs Molina press conference. Stiverne losing to Wilder was a business deal transaction not a fight.

Some of the comments here