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Anti-doping test waived for female world champion in Germany
Posted: 19 Dec 2016, 12:16
by RScarf1
Elina Tissen had the anti-doping test waived in one of her title fights.
http://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/ ... st-tissen/
Re: Anti-doping test waived for female world champion in Germany
Posted: 19 Dec 2016, 12:52
by boxing_rocks
From the recent real top level boxing, Charlo and Usyk didn't do VADA testing.
Re: Anti-doping test waived for female world champion in Germany
Posted: 20 Dec 2016, 22:33
by RScarf1
The article is more than just an anti-doping test waived. It is an investigation about WADA and Germany not complying with WADA Code. The anti-doping test was required for this title fight and the manager/promoter for the German woman was allowed to waive the test. However, even if she did take the test, Germany still does not comply with WADA Code. Even worse is the fact that when an anti-doping test is waived, Germany does not allow the media to know that it was waived. It is considered private information because of privacy laws in Germany, so not just the test results are private, but not taking the test is also private information in Germany. The only reason why I found out about it is because another sanctioning body was initially involved in the sanctioning of the fight, but pulled out because they were going to be forced to sign a waiver that would have waived the drug test and also all of the officials were chosen by the manager/promoter of the German woman. Because this sanctioning body pulled out, the other German based sanctioning body did what it wanted to do which was to allow the German manager/promoter to select all the officials for the fight and to waive the drug test. Really, the German woman is not German. She just lives there now. Her country of birth is Russia. She looks bigger than the usual woman in that weight class, but there is no proof that she is on any PEDs. However, I believe that the anti-doping test was waived more than once and I do not believe it was because of "financial reasons" which is what the manager/promoter said was the reason that he wanted the test waived.
Re: Anti-doping test waived for female world champion in Germany
Posted: 21 Dec 2016, 17:08
by krackle
RScarf1 wrote:The article is more than just an anti-doping test waived. It is an investigation about WADA and Germany not complying with WADA Code. The anti-doping test was required for this title fight and the manager/promoter for the German woman was allowed to waive the test. However, even if she did take the test, Germany still does not comply with WADA Code. [snipping rest]
WADA does not have any authority in professional boxing. There is nothing that "Germany" can be non-compliant with. Sauerland (a boxing promoter) for example has a contract (!) with NADA that amounts to the same things as in olympic sports with out of competition testing, registering your whereabouts and the WADA prohibited list etc (I don't know how the sanctioning of doping offences work in Sauerland's case). Anyway, reality is that it's all in the rules of the federations and if you know anything of boxing in general you know that their own rules are more aikin to guidelines and that they are, ah... fairly flexible. When Floyd Mayweather "had WADA testing" they had a contract (!) with WADA for that particular fight. Nothing more, no federation required him to do this. The most common norm for doping testing in impirtant fights is a urine test after the figh. That's it. There is no general rule that labs must be WADA accredited either. Everyone can, and do, have their own rules.
So go ahead with your investigation about Tissen (sp?) but you seem to be barking up the wrong tree by following up on the doping testing practices of boxing federations. Their practices may be shit but that's just the way of things.
Re: Anti-doping test waived for female world champion in Germany
Posted: 21 Dec 2016, 23:35
by RScarf1
My investigation of Tissen is done. I understand that Germany does not have to follow WADA Code and the sanctioning bodies make their own rules. They also violate their own rules too. The WIBF and GBU require anti-doping tests after the world title fights, but Tissen did not have to for at least one of her fights. Germany is not complying with WADA Code, although the BDB German commission claims they send the test vials of urine to WADA approved labs to be analyzed. The main thing is that the rule in world title fights for these sanctioning bodies is a urine test after the fight for both boxers. That was waived for Tissen, but I don't know about her opponent. If professional boxing does not get this under control, it is going to be like baseball was and maybe still is with players juicing. No one should be allowed to waive the test if that test is required for a world title fight.