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Ward says it makes Kovalev look bad that a month later he’s still making excuses and not willing to give him credit for his victory over him. Kovalev still believes that HE should have won the decision in that fight, and that the judges got it wrong in giving the 32-year-old Ward the victory by a 12 round unanimous decision by the scores 114-113 x 3.

Ward said this to Fox Sports Live about Kovalev and his win over him:

“It was a unanimous decision,” said Ward about his win over Kovalev. “It was a close fight, I’ll give him that. I think what happened was this guy kind of has had such a reputation for being a monster that they thought he was going to hit me and I was going to stay down. He did hit me, and I went down and I got up. As the smaller man, I took the fight to him, and I feel like I did what I had to do to close out the show the last 6, 7, 8 rounds. The judges got it right. He’s just disappointed. I know a guy is disappointed, him and his team right after the fight; emotions are still high. For a guy 3, 4 weeks later still not give you credit and still make excuses; it’s not a good look for him. If Kovalev won by 4 to 5 rounds, and I knew in my heart of hearts that this guy beat me, I got the kind of character where I’m going to tell him right after the fight, ‘Bro, I think you got the decision.’ He earned this. It just didn’t happen. It was a close fight that went my way, and I think at some point and I think at some point he’s got to own up to it. I’ve been in the game a long time, 12 years in the profession,” said Ward.

I have to side with Ward here. It was an extremely close fight and ever since, Kovalev has just talked about rematch, if Ward retires etc. if he vacates etc?

Kovalev doesn't give Ward any credit, either Ward is getting annoyed or he's laughing at the fact that Kovalev can't admit defeat.

Ward talking about character

What an egotistical asswipe. It takes time to get over when you get fucked in business, life too for that matter. Even for the minority that defend the decision, it's pretty telling that every ward card is 114-113, he literally needs every possible break to attempt to justify thar bullshit. Sure even wards rabid fans on here cant blame kovalev for thinking he won.

If in his heart of hearts, Kovalev felt he won the fight, why would he admit defeat to Ward?

If ward wanted me toeat that spoon-fed shit he should display that character by admitting he thought he lost. He can fluff it by saying he went back and watched it, he's hard on himself, blah, blah. In the ring he was visually disappointed and surprised.

Lol, it's not like Kovalev has even been overly vocal or hubristic in calling foul and relentlessly demanding a rematch.

Sure, he wants to do it again, but ffs the guy was seen laughing and joking in his dressing room after the fight, he was on some talk show being very good natured about it a few days after. If anything, this just speaks more to Ward's insecurity about the whole thing and HIM being paranoid that so many people think he lost the fight that he has to spin it like it's Kovalev being unreasonable.

Massive ego, massive tool.

Ward won the fair and square. Ya'll don't know how to score a fight.

keithmoonhangover wrote:Ward won the fair and square. Ya'll don't know how to score a fight.

i guess 75% of boxing experts don't either

Riddick Blowe wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:Ward won the fair and square. Ya'll don't know how to score a fight.

i guess 75% of boxing experts don't either

Who are these 'boxing experts'? Genuine question.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:Ward won the fair and square. Ya'll don't know how to score a fight.

i guess 75% of boxing experts don't either

Who are these 'boxing experts'? Genuine question.

http://talkingboxing.co.uk/we-go-to-the ... lev-v-ward

ok, 73%. still conclusive.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:Ward won the fair and square. Ya'll don't know how to score a fight.

i guess 75% of boxing experts don't either

For 11 of the 12 rounds he landed a higher percentage of punches, which means he was also the best defensive fighter for 11 rounds.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:Ward won the fair and square. Ya'll don't know how to score a fight.

i guess 75% of boxing experts don't either

For 11 of the 12 rounds he landed a higher percentage of punches, which means he was also the best defensive fighter for 11 rounds.

Less attempts means less successes can still lead to higher percentages...

It is what it is. Ward got the decision from the judges, that's the important thing ultimately. Fact is a lot of people don't think he won so that's always gonna be hanging over him without a rematch.

gilgamesh wrote:It is what it is. Ward got the decision from the judges, that's the important thing ultimately. Fact is a lot of people don't think he won so that's always gonna be hanging over him without a rematch.

The most important thing is what the fans think.

Kovalev won the fight.

Horse wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:It is what it is. Ward got the decision from the judges, that's the important thing ultimately. Fact is a lot of people don't think he won so that's always gonna be hanging over him without a rematch.

The most important thing is what the fans think.

Kovalev won the fight.

Mr. Ed has passed judgement. Fold the tent and move on people.

Tanzio wrote:Mr. Ed has passed judgement. Fold the tent and move on people.

Only creeps respect the judges' opinion more than the people's.

Horse wrote:

Tanzio wrote:Mr. Ed has passed judgement. Fold the tent and move on people.

Only creeps respect the judges' opinion more than the people's.

I respect my opinion more than yours, Mr. Ed. My opinion is that boxing is not judged democratically, although I have put forth a format by which the fans would have more input.

Ward won the fight, in my opinion.

Feels so dirty agreeing with horse

Tanzio wrote:

Horse wrote:

Tanzio wrote:Mr. Ed has passed judgement. Fold the tent and move on people.

Only creeps respect the judges' opinion more than the people's.

I respect my opinion more than yours, Mr. Ed. My opinion is that boxing is not judged democratically, although I have put forth a format by which the fans would have more input.

Ward won the fight, in my opinion.

But boxing IS judged democratically, with the majority of three judges declaring the winner. And as is the case with any subjective (or democratic) analysis, just because those three were the only ones whose opinions counted doesn't mean they got it right.

punchoutsb wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Horse wrote:Only creeps respect the judges' opinion more than the people's.

I respect my opinion more than yours, Mr. Ed. My opinion is that boxing is not judged democratically, although I have put forth a format by which the fans would have more input.

Ward won the fight, in my opinion.

But boxing IS judged democratically, with the majority of three judges declaring the winner. And as is the case with any subjective (or democratic) analysis, just because those three were the only ones whose opinions counted doesn't mean they got it right.

But in this case they did get it right, and we don't get a vote.

Tanzio wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Tanzio wrote: I respect my opinion more than yours, Mr. Ed. My opinion is that boxing is not judged democratically, although I have put forth a format by which the fans would have more input.

Ward won the fight, in my opinion.

But boxing IS judged democratically, with the majority of three judges declaring the winner. And as is the case with any subjective (or democratic) analysis, just because those three were the only ones whose opinions counted doesn't mean they got it right.

But in this case they did get it right.

In your opinion, which is no more important or valuable than horses, mine, or your auntie may.

I did see Kovalev as the razor close winner, but the fight was close enough that the term "robbery" doesn't really fit to me. Either way its hard to discount the opinions of the majority of boxing writers, presenters, and fans to basically say "these three guys said so".

punchoutsb wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:
But boxing IS judged democratically, with the majority of three judges declaring the winner. And as is the case with any subjective (or democratic) analysis, just because those three were the only ones whose opinions counted doesn't mean they got it right.

But in this case they did get it right.

In your opinion, which is no more important or valuable than horses, mine, or your auntie may.

I did see Kovalev as the razor close winner, but the fight was close enough that the term "robbery" doesn't really fit to me. Either way its hard to discount the opinions of the majority of boxing writers, presenters, and fans to basically say "these three guys said so".

Those are the rules. Take it up with the principal.

It was a close fight. Ward got the decision. There should be a rematch but it won't change the judging which I happen to agree with in this case.

FMJ is undefeated. Do I think he lost a fight? Yes. That does not change the fact that FMJ is undefeated.

Tanzio wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Tanzio wrote: But in this case they did get it right.

In your opinion, which is no more important or valuable than horses, mine, or your auntie may.

I did see Kovalev as the razor close winner, but the fight was close enough that the term "robbery" doesn't really fit to me. Either way its hard to discount the opinions of the majority of boxing writers, presenters, and fans to basically say "these three guys said so".

Those are the rules. Take it up with the principal.

It was a close fight. Ward got the decision. There should be a rematch but it won't change the judging which I happen to agree with in this case.

FMJ is undefeated. Do I think he lost a fight? Yes. That does not change the fact that FMJ is undefeated.

I already said I don't have a problem with it either way, it was a good fight and just the fight boxing needed. It go people talking again--we're still talking about!

I just don't agree with the idea that boxing fans voices are less important than officials when it comes to discussing the reality of how something played out. It's not lost on me that Andrew Ward beat Sergei Kovalev. He won by a Unanimous Decision and no amount of debate will change that. I just happen the think the three fellows granted the right to have their opinion count got it wrong, however slightly it may have been.