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ginty wrote:Current scene is completely different from B&I everything is an argument no matter what you say someone will say you don't know sh1t .....

ginty wrote:

littlepug wrote:Funnily enough I've had more grief on this section than anywhere else with one guy digging up personal stuff about me and then posting it

Really, sometimes I guess some people just like being a dick

Boxing history can be a minefield as well

ginty wrote:

littlepug wrote:

ginty wrote: Really, sometimes I guess some people just like being a dick

Boxing history can be a minefield as well

Suppose people have off days or get overly passionate about something and get a bee in their bonnet but I just found the whole thing a bit creepy if I'm honest

I think as well because you were a fighter yourself some might see it as browny points trying to prove the know more than an ex boxer .

littlepug wrote:

ginty wrote:

littlepug wrote:Funnily enough I've had more grief on this section than anywhere else with one guy digging up personal stuff about me and then posting it

Really, sometimes I guess some people just like being a dick

Boxing history can be a minefield as well

Suppose people have off days or get overly passionate about something and get a bee in their bonnet but I just found the whole thing a bit creepy if I'm honest

punchoutsb wrote:Boxing history is the worst in terms of posters yelling how nobody knows poo compared to them.

Current scene just has a lot of posters who need more oxygen.

Tomasino wrote:

littlepug wrote:

ginty wrote: Really, sometimes I guess some people just like being a dick

Boxing history can be a minefield as well

Suppose people have off days or get overly passionate about something and get a bee in their bonnet but I just found the whole thing a bit creepy if I'm honest

I've had it on B&I where a guy asked me for my facebook details and address etc while saying he'd organise a 'sparring session' in his local gym he was as creepy as fûck

davie wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:Boxing history is the worst in terms of posters yelling how nobody knows poo compared to them.

Current scene just has a lot of posters who need more oxygen.

I used to enjoy Cheepppaaa/Jip thinking he could win any argument on the current scene by mentioning he was a boxing expert

Aye, ok Chep paaa

punchoutsb wrote:Boxing history is the worst in terms of posters yelling how nobody knows poo compared to them.

Current scene just has a lot of posters who need more oxygen.

littlepug wrote:

Tomasino wrote:

littlepug wrote: Suppose people have off days or get overly passionate about something and get a bee in their bonnet but I just found the whole thing a bit creepy if I'm honest

I've had it on B&I where a guy asked me for my facebook details and address etc while saying he'd organise a 'sparring session' in his local gym he was as creepy as fûck

Bloody hell !I think we all get a bit complacent sometimes on here with what we reveal to what are effectively strangers

crusader wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:Boxing history is the worst in terms of posters yelling how nobody knows poo compared to them.

Current scene just has a lot of posters who need more oxygen.

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Boxing History certainly has some knowledgable regulars, but it's also overflowing with condescension and an irascible sensitivity to criticism of fighters from older generations. On one occasion several posters broadsided me and impugned my boxing knowledge simply because I dared to criticize the technique Jack Dempsey showed in a few of his recorded fights (their counterargument to me was pretty much 'you don't know shitt'), and this type of things isn't uncommon for that part of the forum.

It strikes me as a section where a bunch of the regulars feel that boxing from those past generations is part of who they are (maybe they grew up watching the older fighters), and are thus hypersensitive to criticism of fighters from those times.

Tomasino wrote:

littlepug wrote:

Tomasino wrote:

I've had it on B&I where a guy asked me for my facebook details and address etc while saying he'd organise a 'sparring session' in his local gym he was as creepy as fûck

Bloody hell !I think we all get a bit complacent sometimes on here with what we reveal to what are effectively strangers

Exactly, it was out the blue and I was waiting on the bird coming over to head out for food...she got here and I'd sent him my number straight away and was raging sitting staring at the phone...she went nuts at me looked at some of his posts and that and said 'your letting a random freak from the web rile you up and give your details out!! What an asshole' so I deleted the messages and just blocked the guy. I can't believe I was stupid enough to get sucked in initially.

crusader wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:Boxing history is the worst in terms of posters yelling how nobody knows poo compared to them.

Current scene just has a lot of posters who need more oxygen.

x2

Boxing History certainly has some knowledgable regulars, but it's also overflowing with condescension and an irascible sensitivity to criticism of fighters from older generations. On one occasion several posters broadsided me and impugned my boxing knowledge simply because I dared to criticize the technique Jack Dempsey showed in a few of his recorded fights (their counterargument to me was pretty much 'you don't know shitt'), and this type of things isn't uncommon for that part of the forum.

It strikes me as a section where a bunch of the regulars feel that boxing from those past generations is part of who they are (maybe they grew up watching the older fighters), and are thus hypersensitive to criticism of fighters from those times.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

crusader wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:Boxing history is the worst in terms of posters yelling how nobody knows poo compared to them.

Current scene just has a lot of posters who need more oxygen.

x2

Boxing History certainly has some knowledgable regulars, but it's also overflowing with condescension and an irascible sensitivity to criticism of fighters from older generations. On one occasion several posters broadsided me and impugned my boxing knowledge simply because I dared to criticize the technique Jack Dempsey showed in a few of his recorded fights (their counterargument to me was pretty much 'you don't know shitt'), and this type of things isn't uncommon for that part of the forum.

It strikes me as a section where a bunch of the regulars feel that boxing from those past generations is part of who they are (maybe they grew up watching the older fighters), and are thus hypersensitive to criticism of fighters from those times.

That'll be all of us in 40 years time...we'll be on there extolling the glory days of Tyson Fury, Danny Garcia and Canelo.

davie wrote:

crusader wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:Boxing history is the worst in terms of posters yelling how nobody knows poo compared to them.

Current scene just has a lot of posters who need more oxygen.

x2

Boxing History certainly has some knowledgable regulars, but it's also overflowing with condescension and an irascible sensitivity to criticism of fighters from older generations. On one occasion several posters broadsided me and impugned my boxing knowledge simply because I dared to criticize the technique Jack Dempsey showed in a few of his recorded fights (their counterargument to me was pretty much 'you don't know shitt'), and this type of things isn't uncommon for that part of the forum.

It strikes me as a section where a bunch of the regulars feel that boxing from those past generations is part of who they are (maybe they grew up watching the older fighters), and are thus hypersensitive to criticism of fighters from those times.

I'm kind of somewhere in the middle.
Because I see what you're saying but at the same time there are many who come on with the opposite view of fighter A beats fighter B because he lived in the modern age, so he must be bigger, faster, taller, fitter and technically superior.

I prefer to compare achievements, taking into account the circumatances of the time.
I think it really causes difficulties when comparing who would beat who, between 2 fighter seprated by 70+ years, as there are some obvious physical advantages for modern fighter and more knowledge of sport science, nutrician & weight management etc but when people come on with views that Billy Joe Saunders could have knocked out Carmen Basilio and Jake Lamotta, I have to draw a effing line there

BTW, I'm 36 and didn't grow up watching the legends of yesteryear but I'm trying my damnedest to educate myself.

crusader wrote:

davie wrote:

crusader wrote:
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Boxing History certainly has some knowledgable regulars, but it's also overflowing with condescension and an irascible sensitivity to criticism of fighters from older generations. On one occasion several posters broadsided me and impugned my boxing knowledge simply because I dared to criticize the technique Jack Dempsey showed in a few of his recorded fights (their counterargument to me was pretty much 'you don't know shitt'), and this type of things isn't uncommon for that part of the forum.

It strikes me as a section where a bunch of the regulars feel that boxing from those past generations is part of who they are (maybe they grew up watching the older fighters), and are thus hypersensitive to criticism of fighters from those times.

I'm kind of somewhere in the middle.
Because I see what you're saying but at the same time there are many who come on with the opposite view of fighter A beats fighter B because he lived in the modern age, so he must be bigger, faster, taller, fitter and technically superior.

I prefer to compare achievements, taking into account the circumatances of the time.
I think it really causes difficulties when comparing who would beat who, between 2 fighter seprated by 70+ years, as there are some obvious physical advantages for modern fighter and more knowledge of sport science, nutrician & weight management etc but when people come on with views that Billy Joe Saunders could have knocked out Carmen Basilio and Jake Lamotta, I have to draw a effing line there

BTW, I'm 36 and didn't grow up watching the legends of yesteryear but I'm trying my damnedest to educate myself.

Leaving aside someone like Kalan, how many people would actually take BJS over Basilio and Lamotta?

That type of opinion is anomalous, and despite many cries from old-timers about people being biased toward modern fighters, I don't think that usually happens to an extreme degree. On the other hand, when I've been reasonable and pointed out, with evidence, that Jack Johnson held an awful lot, that Jack Dempsey had technical shortcomings, that Joe Louis didn't have ATG speed, that Liston is often overrated, or that Stanley Ketchel showed numerous weaknesses in the scant footage available and probably wouldn't be leagues above GGG, I've been met with ample condecension and attacks on my credibility rather than my actual argument.

As bad as the Current Scene can be, I think Boxing History is even worse when it comes to haughty attitudes. As mentioned, it often feels to me like the posters take criticism of fighters from past generations as personal affronts.

ginty wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

ginty wrote:Current scene is completely different from B&I everything is an argument no matter what you say someone will say you don't know sh1t .....

A lot of bollock talkers with an agenda! It's hard work at times!

Yeah not sure if it's a cultural thing as I think most are American on there , I guess we just have different ways of expressing our selves they don't really talk a lot about trying to bum the Mrs while off their heads on kettimine .... Strange lot

Taansend wrote: A bloke I rented a room out to in San Diego used to write on an archery forum. The c*nt had never fired a fcking arrow in his life but, for some unknown reason, reinvented himself as an archery expert In reality he was a fat, smelly, 40 year old virgin who would spend his 3 days off in his underwear eating fast food & telling all & sundry the ins & outs of the bow & arrow world.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

Taansend wrote: A bloke I rented a room out to in San Diego used to write on an archery forum. The c*nt had never fired a fcking arrow in his life but, for some unknown reason, reinvented himself as an archery expert In reality he was a fat, smelly, 40 year old virgin who would spend his 3 days off in his underwear eating fast food & telling all & sundry the ins & outs of the bow & arrow world.

Reddit is the only other forum I visit regularly, and the above very much applies to loads of their users. I've had people insisting I'm wrong and arguing with me about things I am 100% sure about, and can back up with evidence. I've even had people say that something couldn't have happened, when I have recounted a story about something that has actually happened to me.

Some people must just want an argument, even when there isn't a proper argument to be had. Personally I have enough arguments in my real life without having to come online and start more!