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This has Haymon fingerprints all over it - He did not want to risk his future cash cow hope Spence vs Brook so he wangled Khan to finally step up to finally face Brook (Khan has no other options and he's ready to be sacrificed) - So now Brook vacates the IBF belt and Haymon wangles Spence to fight the young Aussie Horn for the vacated belt - Horn is unproven and will likely be cannonfodder for Spence but knowing Haymon he will probably give the Aussie kid (who hasn't earned any $ yet in boxing) a bonus to play soft with Spence (in other words: throw the fight) - Horn will take the $ and will most likely get a future favor (title shot) from Haymon vs someone like Garcia or Thurman - so easy to see Haymons fingerprints all over this if you know how Haymon operates and what his master plans are and who his crown jewel hopes are: "Al haymon can manipulate anything - what al haymon wants al haymon gets" - paul malignaggi quote BEFORE he sold his soul and signed with haymon

montrealsuper wrote:This has Haymon fingerprints all over it - He did not want to risk his future cash cow hope Spence vs Brook so he wangled Khan to finally step up to finally face Brook (Khan has no other options and he's ready to be sacrificed) - So now Brook vacates the IBF belt and Haymon wangles Spence to fight the young Aussie Horn for the vacated belt - Horn is unproven and will likely be cannonfodder for Spence but knowing Haymon he will probably give the Aussie kid (who hasn't earned any $ yet in boxing) a bonus to play soft with Spence (in other words: throw the fight) - Horn will take the $ and will most likely get a future favor (title shot) from Haymon vs someone like Garcia or Thurman - so easy to see Haymons fingerprints all over this if you know how Haymon operates and what his master plans are and who his crown jewel hopes are: "Al haymon can manipulate anything - what al haymon wants al haymon gets" - paul malignaggi quote BEFORE he sold his soul and signed with haymon

Right now, there is no announcement Brook has vacated the belt. He is still listed as champion on the IBFs website.

I critisize Haymon a fair bit but to be honest this will have nothing to do with him if Kell has vacated and is fighting Khan next.

If Brook and Khan do fight next it is because both fighters will make a LOT of money from it and it is their biggest realistic payday now. Nothing to do with protecting Spence.

A LONG way to go as well because Khan and Brook have been talking about fighting for years and it hasn't happened yet.

montrealsuper wrote:This has Haymon fingerprints all over it - He did not want to risk his future cash cow hope Spence vs Brook so he wangled Khan to finally step up to finally face Brook (Khan has no other options and he's ready to be sacrificed) - So now Brook vacates the IBF belt and Haymon wangles Spence to fight the young Aussie Horn for the vacated belt - Horn is unproven and will likely be cannonfodder for Spence but knowing Haymon he will probably give the Aussie kid (who hasn't earned any $ yet in boxing) a bonus to play soft with Spence (in other words: throw the fight) - Horn will take the $ and will most likely get a future favor (title shot) from Haymon vs someone like Garcia or Thurman - so easy to see Haymons fingerprints all over this if you know how Haymon operates and what his master plans are and who his crown jewel hopes are: "Al haymon can manipulate anything - what al haymon wants al haymon gets" - paul malignaggi quote BEFORE he sold his soul and signed with haymon

Your futile crusade to blame every single boxing-related issue on Al Haymon, is so moronic that it has become comical.

Just about every single post you submit to this forum contains an anti-Haymon narrative.

Shall I try to emulate your mindest?

It's currently raining where I live... do you think that Al Haymon strategically manouvred a whole host of nimbostratus clouds to my locale, simply because I have previously questioned his approach to running the PBC?

Naandrew wrote:

montrealsuper wrote:This has Haymon fingerprints all over it - He did not want to risk his future cash cow hope Spence vs Brook so he wangled Khan to finally step up to finally face Brook (Khan has no other options and he's ready to be sacrificed) - So now Brook vacates the IBF belt and Haymon wangles Spence to fight the young Aussie Horn for the vacated belt - Horn is unproven and will likely be cannonfodder for Spence but knowing Haymon he will probably give the Aussie kid (who hasn't earned any $ yet in boxing) a bonus to play soft with Spence (in other words: throw the fight) - Horn will take the $ and will most likely get a future favor (title shot) from Haymon vs someone like Garcia or Thurman - so easy to see Haymons fingerprints all over this if you know how Haymon operates and what his master plans are and who his crown jewel hopes are: "Al haymon can manipulate anything - what al haymon wants al haymon gets" - paul malignaggi quote BEFORE he sold his soul and signed with haymon

Right now, there is no announcement Brook has vacated the belt. He is still listed as champion on the IBFs website.

I critisize Haymon a fair bit but to be honest this will have nothing to do with him if Kell has vacated and is fighting Khan next.

If Brook and Khan do fight next it is because both fighters will make a LOT of money from it and it is their biggest realistic payday now. Nothing to do with protecting Spence.

A LONG way to go as well because Khan and Brook have been talking about fighting for years and it hasn't happened yet.

it has everything to do with protecting spence - the ONLY reason why brook vs khan is FINALLY happening now is because it's paramount to manufacture and secure spence as haymons next counterfeit fraud crown jewel - haymon leaves nothing to chance and fight fixing / corruption / bribery / manipulating are his tools - boxing is not a sport for haymon it's a BU$INE$$ - cash cows are to be manufactured and protected by any and all means necessary - Oscar is doing the same thing to Canelo - only a fool would think Canelo is going to lose a fight in the next 5-10 years - too much $$$ to be made by just fixing him to win every fight - boxing is run by greed not sportsmanship -

Enlightened-One wrote:

montrealsuper wrote:This has Haymon fingerprints all over it - He did not want to risk his future cash cow hope Spence vs Brook so he wangled Khan to finally step up to finally face Brook (Khan has no other options and he's ready to be sacrificed) - So now Brook vacates the IBF belt and Haymon wangles Spence to fight the young Aussie Horn for the vacated belt - Horn is unproven and will likely be cannonfodder for Spence but knowing Haymon he will probably give the Aussie kid (who hasn't earned any $ yet in boxing) a bonus to play soft with Spence (in other words: throw the fight) - Horn will take the $ and will most likely get a future favor (title shot) from Haymon vs someone like Garcia or Thurman - so easy to see Haymons fingerprints all over this if you know how Haymon operates and what his master plans are and who his crown jewel hopes are: "Al haymon can manipulate anything - what al haymon wants al haymon gets" - paul malignaggi quote BEFORE he sold his soul and signed with haymon

Your futile crusade to blame every single boxing-related issue on Al Haymon, is so moronic that it has become comical.

Just about every single post you submit to this forum contains an anti-Haymon narrative.

Shall I try to emulate your mindest?

It's currently raining where I live... do you think that Al Haymon strategically manouvred a whole host of nimbostratus clouds to my locale, simply because I have previously questioned his approach to running the PBC?

the truth is hate to those who hate the truth

Brook is in fact going to fight Khan I don't think that has jack sh*t to do with Haymon it has everything to do with how much money there is for Khan-Brook in the UK.

montrealsuper wrote:

Naandrew wrote:

montrealsuper wrote:This has Haymon fingerprints all over it - He did not want to risk his future cash cow hope Spence vs Brook so he wangled Khan to finally step up to finally face Brook (Khan has no other options and he's ready to be sacrificed) - So now Brook vacates the IBF belt and Haymon wangles Spence to fight the young Aussie Horn for the vacated belt - Horn is unproven and will likely be cannonfodder for Spence but knowing Haymon he will probably give the Aussie kid (who hasn't earned any $ yet in boxing) a bonus to play soft with Spence (in other words: throw the fight) - Horn will take the $ and will most likely get a future favor (title shot) from Haymon vs someone like Garcia or Thurman - so easy to see Haymons fingerprints all over this if you know how Haymon operates and what his master plans are and who his crown jewel hopes are: "Al haymon can manipulate anything - what al haymon wants al haymon gets" - paul malignaggi quote BEFORE he sold his soul and signed with haymon

Right now, there is no announcement Brook has vacated the belt. He is still listed as champion on the IBFs website.

I critisize Haymon a fair bit but to be honest this will have nothing to do with him if Kell has vacated and is fighting Khan next.

If Brook and Khan do fight next it is because both fighters will make a LOT of money from it and it is their biggest realistic payday now. Nothing to do with protecting Spence.

A LONG way to go as well because Khan and Brook have been talking about fighting for years and it hasn't happened yet.

it has everything to do with protecting spence - the ONLY reason why brook vs khan is FINALLY happening now is because it's paramount to manufacture and secure spence as haymons next counterfeit fraud crown jewel - haymon leaves nothing to chance and fight fixing / corruption / bribery / manipulating are his tools - boxing is not a sport for haymon it's a BU$INE$$ - cash cows are to be manufactured and protected by any and all means necessary - Oscar is doing the same thing to Canelo - only a fool would think Canelo is going to lose a fight in the next 5-10 years - too much $$$ to be made by just fixing him to win every fight - boxing is run by greed not sportsmanship -

Right now it isn't happening. Numerous reasons make me doubt this. Agreeing a weight for starters and the fact that the broadcaster already have two PPVs scheduled.

Brook has not vacated his title and according to his promoter in numerous interviews will not vacate it. Eddie Hearn wants Kell to vacate and move up to 154 but he won't drop the belt.

The ONLY reason Khan v Brook happens next is because Khan doesn't have a fight option which will make him a LOT of money and that Kell Brook has wanted this fight for YEARS.

I don't think Haymon is massivley involved with Khan now anyway. Hence why his last fight was for a promoter who is in a legal battle with Haymon.

Also Spence is a cash cow who can be compared to Conelo. He isn't fighting in PPV for starters.

Khan is controlled by Haymon. Golden Boy and Haymon made a deal to sacrifice Khan to Canelo. Spence is being carefully manufactured to be a PPV star or a marquee attraction by Haymon.

There is no reason to save Spence from Brook, because I think Spence will beat Brook. Even though I think so, Spence is not even proven yet against the top guys in Welterweight. I do think he is the best I have seen so far, but it can only be an opinion at this point. In order to be a cash cow you have to generate a lot of money. At this point, neither Spence or Wilder is generating that kind of money. There are probably 30 or 40 (my guess) other fighters in boxing that make more than Spence right now.

I need to add you to the stupid/annoying list.

How is he saving spence?? Spence would destroy brook and Khan! More like Eddie Hearn saving his fighter from a beating again and further ruining his stable of mostly protected fighters.

You're assuming he wants to save Spence from Brook. He may not be as worried about Brook as you think

I think Brook is taking the big payday option over the risky defence.
We could have a moan if WE hadn't been the ones asking for this fight for the last 4 years.

As for Spence, I think the OP is talking nonsense. Spence would happily have taken on anyone to get his title, of course they're going to be happy taking an easy shot at a vacant title over a risky challenge to Brook. Spence is building his name and all he needs is a title for a big payday. He never needed Brook and this suits everyone.

Not sure there's any need to be pointing the finger

Enlightened-One wrote:
It's currently raining where I live... do you think that Al Haymon strategically manouvred a whole host of nimbostratus clouds to my locale, simply because I have previously questioned his approach to running the PBC?

This is funny

Haymon has big plans for Spence and losing to Brook ends everything because Spence is not a seller yet and an early loss kills his aura and mystique to the fans and media - Haymon leaves nothing to chance and to face Brook in a REAL fight is a HUGE HUGE risk - You have to understand GREED is what runs boxing today - The Floyd formula of rigging a fraud superhero by fixing and corruption for ten years showed that giant deceptions can pay off a huge jackpot - Oscar is now applying the same formula for Canelo who is a big fix and will be a big fix for years to come (that's why Canelo has to duck GGG forever or till GGG gets old or loses) - Haymon needs his next "floyd" so he can have his long term jackpots down the road - right now WIlder and Spence are the chosen ones and will be protected from losing by any means necessary - Understand boxing is all about greed now and not about giving the fans the best superfights - Boxing = Greed

montrealsuper wrote:Haymon has big plans for Spence and losing to Brook ends everything because Spence is not a seller yet and an early loss kills his aura and mystique to the fans and media - Haymon leaves nothing to chance and to face Brook in a REAL fight is a HUGE HUGE risk - You have to understand GREED is what runs boxing today - The Floyd formula of rigging a fraud superhero by fixing and corruption for ten years showed that giant deceptions can pay off a huge jackpot - Oscar is now applying the same formula for Canelo who is a big fix and will be a big fix for years to come (that's why Canelo has to duck GGG forever or till GGG gets old or loses) - Haymon needs his next "floyd" so he can have his long term jackpots down the road - right now WIlder and Spence are the chosen ones and will be protected from losing by any means necessary - Understand boxing is all about greed now and not about giving the fans the best superfights - Boxing = Greed

The problem is Americans don't understand real boxing fans + real nationalism.
Regardless of the Spence/Brook outcome, British boxing fans would still support Khan/Brook summer 2017,
because they are still real boxing fans and it's still an interesting fight.

I don't really get the timing.
Brook should be dealing with Malinaggi.
Khan should be fighting Ricky Burns or an equally dangerous opponent.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:The problem is Americans don't understand real boxing fans + real nationalism.
Regardless of the Spence/Brook outcome, British boxing fans would still support Khan/Brook summer 2017,
because they are still real boxing fans and it's still an interesting fight.

I don't really get the timing.
Brook should be dealing with Malinaggi.
Khan should be fighting Ricky Burns or an equally dangerous opponent.

Pauly isnt good enough to serve as Brooks sparring partner - Khan is just about irrelevant now as he needs a meaningful win -

montrealsuper wrote:Haymon has big plans for Spence and losing to Brook ends everything because Spence is not a seller yet and an early loss kills his aura and mystique to the fans and media - Haymon leaves nothing to chance and to face Brook in a REAL fight is a HUGE HUGE risk - You have to understand GREED is what runs boxing today - The Floyd formula of rigging a fraud superhero by fixing and corruption for ten years showed that giant deceptions can pay off a huge jackpot - Oscar is now applying the same formula for Canelo who is a big fix and will be a big fix for years to come (that's why Canelo has to duck GGG forever or till GGG gets old or loses) - Haymon needs his next "floyd" so he can have his long term jackpots down the road - right now WIlder and Spence are the chosen ones and will be protected from losing by any means necessary - Understand boxing is all about greed now and not about giving the fans the best superfights - Boxing = Greed

Are you saying that Al Haymon created a time machine and travelled back to 1939 to help start World War II?

Brook coming out here ?

Enlightened-One wrote:

montrealsuper wrote:Haymon has big plans for Spence and losing to Brook ends everything because Spence is not a seller yet and an early loss kills his aura and mystique to the fans and media - Haymon leaves nothing to chance and to face Brook in a REAL fight is a HUGE HUGE risk - You have to understand GREED is what runs boxing today - The Floyd formula of rigging a fraud superhero by fixing and corruption for ten years showed that giant deceptions can pay off a huge jackpot - Oscar is now applying the same formula for Canelo who is a big fix and will be a big fix for years to come (that's why Canelo has to duck GGG forever or till GGG gets old or loses) - Haymon needs his next "floyd" so he can have his long term jackpots down the road - right now WIlder and Spence are the chosen ones and will be protected from losing by any means necessary - Understand boxing is all about greed now and not about giving the fans the best superfights - Boxing = Greed

Are you saying that Al Haymon created a time machine and travelled back to 1939 to help start World War II?

No I'm saying Al Haymon is a crooked corrupt rat who is cheating and ruining and pimping the sport of boxing and it's fans to serve his own ego and interests - are you too naive and simple to understand?

montrealsuper wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

montrealsuper wrote:Haymon has big plans for Spence and losing to Brook ends everything because Spence is not a seller yet and an early loss kills his aura and mystique to the fans and media - Haymon leaves nothing to chance and to face Brook in a REAL fight is a HUGE HUGE risk - You have to understand GREED is what runs boxing today - The Floyd formula of rigging a fraud superhero by fixing and corruption for ten years showed that giant deceptions can pay off a huge jackpot - Oscar is now applying the same formula for Canelo who is a big fix and will be a big fix for years to come (that's why Canelo has to duck GGG forever or till GGG gets old or loses) - Haymon needs his next "floyd" so he can have his long term jackpots down the road - right now WIlder and Spence are the chosen ones and will be protected from losing by any means necessary - Understand boxing is all about greed now and not about giving the fans the best superfights - Boxing = Greed

Are you saying that Al Haymon created a time machine and travelled back to 1939 to help start World War II?

No I'm saying Al Haymon is a crooked corrupt rat who is cheating and ruining and pimping the sport of boxing and it's fans to serve his own ego and interests - are you too naive and simple to understand?

Everything you say about Al Haymon is either a downright lie or an unsubstantiated accusation.

You persistently make slanderous allegations about the PBC boss without possessing any evidence and without any effort being made to gather facts.

Enlightened-One wrote:

montrealsuper wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: Are you saying that Al Haymon created a time machine and travelled back to 1939 to help start World War II?

No I'm saying Al Haymon is a crooked corrupt rat who is cheating and ruining and pimping the sport of boxing and it's fans to serve his own ego and interests - are you too naive and simple to understand?

Everything you say about Al Haymon is either a downright lie or an unsubstantiated accusation.

You persistently make slanderous allegations about the PBC boss without possessing any evidence and without any effort being made to gather facts.

Due to the fact you constantly lie, coupled with your abundantly clear laziness and reluctance to validate and support your fictional claims, means that your opinion about Al Haymon is utterly worthless... to the point that you're a comical disgrace!

Yes you are right Haymon loves the fans and wants to make the best fights and risk his key frauds - I will prove it to you: Haymon made Pac vs Floyd ASAP back in 2009 lol - Haymon made Stevenson vs Kovalev back in 2014 lol - Haymon entered Floyd into the HBO Welterweight tournament back in 2008 with unbeaten Cotto Shane mosley Williams margarito who were all with HBO at the time LOL - Yes Haymon risked Floyd vs Sergio martinez in 2012 to please the fans - Yes you are right Haymon is great for boxing and doesnt really care about protecting his fighters he wants to give the fans the best fights possible LOL Dumb ****

Pauly malignaggi on al haymon: "Al haymon can manipulate (fix) anything - what al haymon wants al haymon gets" -please explain that quote thank you

montrealsuper wrote:Pauly malignaggi on al haymon: "Al haymon can manipulate (fix) anything - what al haymon wants al haymon gets" -please explain that quote thank you

You cannot prove any of the derogatory allegations you make against Al Hayon.

Enlightened-One wrote:

montrealsuper wrote:Pauly malignaggi on al haymon: "Al haymon can manipulate (fix) anything - what al haymon wants al haymon gets" -please explain that quote thank you

You cannot prove any of the derogatory allegations you make against Al Hayon.

Paulie said the quote in an interview at fight hype before the broner fight - can you prove OJ didn't kill ron goldman and nicole brown? haymon's crooked corruption / self serving business tactics are just as obvious as ojs murdering people who play dumb are either naive or ignorant