A 10 cent analysis of Crease’s tournament results
Posted: 04 Jan 2017, 12:53
A 10 cent analysis of Crease’s tournament results
Welterweights: 22 participants = a perfect score of 220
1. Sugar Ray Robinson 216 of 220 (98.8%)
2. Sugar Ray Leonard/Henry Armstrong 167 of 220 (75.9%)
3.
4. Emile Griffith 112 of 220 (50.1%)
5. Thomas Hearns 69 of 220 (31.3%)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. Floyd Mayweather Jr. 42 of 220 (19.1%)
Middleweights: 23 participants = a perfect score of 230
1. Harry Greb 196 of those 230 (85.2%)
2. Carlos Monzon 181 of 230 (78.6)
3.
4. Marvin Hagler 165 of 230 (71.7%)
5. Stanley Ketchel 100 0f 230 (43.4%)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. Charlie Burley 26 of 230 (11.3%)
Lightheavyweights: 22 participants = a perfect score of 220
1. Archie Moore 180 of 220 (81.8%)
2. Ezzard Charles 179 of 220 (81.3%)
3.
4. Michael Spinks 131 of 220 (59.5%)
5. Sam Langford 91 of 220 (41.3%)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. Billy Conn 50 of 220 (22.7%)
Heavyweights: 30 participants = a perfect score of 300
1. Muhammad Ali 282 of the 300 (94.0%)
2. Joe Louis 270 of 300 (90.0%)
3.
4. George foreman 170 of 300 (56.6%)
5. Jack Johnson 135 of 300 (45.0%)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. Jack Dempsey 73 of 300 (24.0%)
so say the numbers . . . so say us
The separation between 4th and 5th place seems to be the dividing line between the ‘great’ and the ‘merely great’
Of the 4th place finishers, Hagler at MW is the closest to the top of his weight class with a 72%, to Greb’s 85% (or a 13% point spread)
Of the 4th place finishers, Griffith at WW is the furthest away from the top by a whopping 49.7% spread (50.1% for Emile and 98.8% for SRR)
Hagler again, as a 4th place finisher, tops his 5th place rival by the largest margin with a 28% point spread (71.7% for Hagler and 43.4% for Ketchel)
Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles (LHW) are the closest one-two finishers with 81.8% to 81.3% respectfully; or by one vote
SRR and SRL (WW) has the greatest percentage spread among the one-two finishers with 98.8% to 75.9% respectfully, or a 22.9% spread
10th place finishers tend to be 1/4th as great their top finisher, except among the MW where Burley is only a paltry 1/10th as great as Greb
Sugar Ray Robinson is the ‘top finisher’ with the highest percentage score, a whopping 98.8%
Ali is the only other ‘top finisher’ at plus 90% (94%)
HW had the most number of participants with 30, while WW and LHW had the lowest with 22
WW is the only division to result in ties (multiple ties), which is odd considering it is the division with the greatest one-two spread; with the rest of the division being tight
and into my opinion and questions
There seems to be no WTF moments among the top five finishers for any weight class; i.e. we seem to be in tune with the general consensus
We tend to lean to the old time greats over the recently great (I wonder what the mean age of the participants is? )
Anyone know which fighter has the earliest fight date; which has the most recent?
I was personally surprised to see Greb above Monzon; I don’t necessarily disagree, just surprised by it
The drop off in participation comes as no surprise and will likely continue to diminish as we get into the lower weight classes.
When we get down to the Flyweights I am not going to try and list the Thai fighters’ names; I am just going to list them as: Thailand Fighter 1 (1967); Thailand Fighter 2 (1988)
And once again, a thank you to Crease (and all) for giving me something to do
Welterweights: 22 participants = a perfect score of 220
1. Sugar Ray Robinson 216 of 220 (98.8%)
2. Sugar Ray Leonard/Henry Armstrong 167 of 220 (75.9%)
3.
4. Emile Griffith 112 of 220 (50.1%)
5. Thomas Hearns 69 of 220 (31.3%)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. Floyd Mayweather Jr. 42 of 220 (19.1%)
Middleweights: 23 participants = a perfect score of 230
1. Harry Greb 196 of those 230 (85.2%)
2. Carlos Monzon 181 of 230 (78.6)
3.
4. Marvin Hagler 165 of 230 (71.7%)
5. Stanley Ketchel 100 0f 230 (43.4%)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. Charlie Burley 26 of 230 (11.3%)
Lightheavyweights: 22 participants = a perfect score of 220
1. Archie Moore 180 of 220 (81.8%)
2. Ezzard Charles 179 of 220 (81.3%)
3.
4. Michael Spinks 131 of 220 (59.5%)
5. Sam Langford 91 of 220 (41.3%)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. Billy Conn 50 of 220 (22.7%)
Heavyweights: 30 participants = a perfect score of 300
1. Muhammad Ali 282 of the 300 (94.0%)
2. Joe Louis 270 of 300 (90.0%)
3.
4. George foreman 170 of 300 (56.6%)
5. Jack Johnson 135 of 300 (45.0%)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. Jack Dempsey 73 of 300 (24.0%)
so say the numbers . . . so say us
The separation between 4th and 5th place seems to be the dividing line between the ‘great’ and the ‘merely great’
Of the 4th place finishers, Hagler at MW is the closest to the top of his weight class with a 72%, to Greb’s 85% (or a 13% point spread)
Of the 4th place finishers, Griffith at WW is the furthest away from the top by a whopping 49.7% spread (50.1% for Emile and 98.8% for SRR)
Hagler again, as a 4th place finisher, tops his 5th place rival by the largest margin with a 28% point spread (71.7% for Hagler and 43.4% for Ketchel)
Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles (LHW) are the closest one-two finishers with 81.8% to 81.3% respectfully; or by one vote
SRR and SRL (WW) has the greatest percentage spread among the one-two finishers with 98.8% to 75.9% respectfully, or a 22.9% spread
10th place finishers tend to be 1/4th as great their top finisher, except among the MW where Burley is only a paltry 1/10th as great as Greb
Sugar Ray Robinson is the ‘top finisher’ with the highest percentage score, a whopping 98.8%
Ali is the only other ‘top finisher’ at plus 90% (94%)
HW had the most number of participants with 30, while WW and LHW had the lowest with 22
WW is the only division to result in ties (multiple ties), which is odd considering it is the division with the greatest one-two spread; with the rest of the division being tight
and into my opinion and questions
There seems to be no WTF moments among the top five finishers for any weight class; i.e. we seem to be in tune with the general consensus
We tend to lean to the old time greats over the recently great (I wonder what the mean age of the participants is? )
Anyone know which fighter has the earliest fight date; which has the most recent?
I was personally surprised to see Greb above Monzon; I don’t necessarily disagree, just surprised by it
The drop off in participation comes as no surprise and will likely continue to diminish as we get into the lower weight classes.
When we get down to the Flyweights I am not going to try and list the Thai fighters’ names; I am just going to list them as: Thailand Fighter 1 (1967); Thailand Fighter 2 (1988)
And once again, a thank you to Crease (and all) for giving me something to do
