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I think he could by seeing the way he dominated Nicholas Walters.Lomachenko has elite skills an can go toe for toe with any boxer from 126 to 140.

to much height and reach difference, but same as pacquiao loma possesses rare talent and if pac can win much taller margarito than why not loma beating crawford. i remember the much smaller gamboa easily winning the first 4 rds against crawford and only losing cause gamboa started brawling with a more powerul puncher, had he just boxed gamboa would have had the W

Loma is not going to beat Crawford.
They are extremely talented boxers and little seperates their skill.
So essentially on this one the bigger man wins.

If Vasyl ever gets up to 140, Crawford will almost certainly be competing at 147 by then.

If they ever fight Crawford wins. Size advantage as much as anything, I don't think there's a big enough gap in their skill levels for Vasyl to make up for TC's size advantage. Plus Loma's biggest asset is his speed, and that would be less of a factor as he gains weight he won't be quite as fast as he is now I don't figure. Maybe only a slight decrease in speed, but it would matter against somebody like Crawford.

Crawford is much bigger and has very good skills and speed himself. And I think his style would be wrong for Vasyl. If they were same size I'd favour Lomachenko to beat him, but they aren't so I think Crawford would win by close but clear decision.

Boxing Writer wrote:Crawford is much bigger and has very good skills and speed himself. And I think his style would be wrong for Vasyl. If they were same size I'd favour Lomachenko to beat him, but they aren't so I think Crawford would win by close but clear decision.

I figure he'd stop Loma myself.

Such a huge size and reach disadvantage against a very skilled opponent. There is no way Loma could win that.

gilgamesh wrote:

Boxing Writer wrote:Crawford is much bigger and has very good skills and speed himself. And I think his style would be wrong for Vasyl. If they were same size I'd favour Lomachenko to beat him, but they aren't so I think Crawford would win by close but clear decision.

I figure he'd stop Loma myself.

I don't figure ANYBODY stops Lomachenko... He's too skilled.

And I figure Loma stops Pacquiao if they fought tomorrow... Pac is hittable and hasn't stopped anybody in many years... He isn't a full Welterweight... Crawford is big enough to fight Welterweight and I think he'd smear Pacquiao.. Talk of a Lomachenko-Crawford fight is stupid.. Loma just moved to 130.. Let him have a few fights there before he fights Mikey Garcia at 135 and consolidates that division.. The only reason he's not still at 126 is the major guys holding titles refused to fight him -- and Rigondeaux refused to move up.

I've got Crawford winning also. Possibly by knockout, possibly not. Considering that Lomachenko's professional experience is limited, he may not have the best survival skills if he gets hurt. But usually in elite vs elite match-ups, both fighters are going to ensure a pace and a level of grappling that would prevent the possibility of knockout.

psychod1986 wrote:I think he could by seeing the way he dominated Nicholas Walters.Lomachenko has elite skills an can go toe for toe with any boxer from 126 to 140.

Even though I don't believe they will ever meet, if they do, my money is on The Lomachenko. He's the best boxer I've seen in my day.

boxing_rocks wrote:Such a huge size and reach disadvantage against a very skilled opponent. There is no way Loma could win that.

There is a big size advantage but I am missing where there is this HUGE height advantage. They are only 1-2 inches apart at most. It's not like Pacquiao giving up 4 inches to Oscar and Margarito.

Jip wrote:to much height and reach difference, but same as pacquiao loma possesses rare talent and if pac can win much taller margarito than why not loma beating crawford. i remember the much smaller gamboa easily winning the first 4 rds against crawford and only losing cause gamboa started brawling with a more powerul puncher, had he just boxed gamboa would have had the W

There is a big size advantage but I am missing where there is this HUGE height advantage. They are only 1-2 inches apart at most. It's not like Pacquiao giving up 4 inches to Oscar and Margarito.

IKSRTFO wrote:

Jip wrote:to much height and reach difference, but same as pacquiao loma possesses rare talent and if pac can win much taller margarito than why not loma beating crawford. i remember the much smaller gamboa easily winning the first 4 rds against crawford and only losing cause gamboa started brawling with a more powerul puncher, had he just boxed gamboa would have had the W

There is a big size advantage but I am missing where there is this HUGE height advantage. They are only 1-2 inches apart at most. It's not like Pacquiao giving up 4 inches to Oscar and Margarito.

Size is not about height. It is about natural bone and muscle mass. Also, Crawford has 4.5-inch reach advantage.

boxing_rocks wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:

Jip wrote:to much height and reach difference, but same as pacquiao loma possesses rare talent and if pac can win much taller margarito than why not loma beating crawford. i remember the much smaller gamboa easily winning the first 4 rds against crawford and only losing cause gamboa started brawling with a more powerul puncher, had he just boxed gamboa would have had the W

There is a big size advantage but I am missing where there is this HUGE height advantage. They are only 1-2 inches apart at most. It's not like Pacquiao giving up 4 inches to Oscar and Margarito.

Size is not about height. It is about natural bone and muscle mass. Also, Crawford has 4.5-inch reach advantage.

That's why I said I see where there is a size advantage but I notice that height is mentioned separately as if it's a big difference between them in height. It's like saying Oscar has a big height advantage against Floyd.

Too small, got the skills though.

Evander wrote:Too small, got the skills though.

Great bigger man beats a great smaller man almost always and definitely in this case. Not only does Crawford have size advantage, but speed advantage too.

Best Coast wrote:

Evander wrote:Too small, got the skills though.

Great bigger man beats a great smaller man almost always and definitely in this case. Not only does Crawford have size advantage, but speed advantage too.

Russell beats Loma too, right?

psychod1986 wrote:I think he could by seeing the way he dominated Nicholas Walters.Lomachenko has elite skills an can go toe for toe with any boxer from 126 to 140.

IMO you are making way too much significance about Loma dominating Walters. Sure Nicholas looked great against Donaire and Darchinyan but looked VERY ordinary against Jason Sosa in his very last bout before Loma and Sosa is nobody special.

Best Coast wrote:

Evander wrote:Too small, got the skills though.

Great bigger man beats a great smaller man almost always and definitely in this case. Not only does Crawford have size advantage, but speed advantage too.

I've seen Lomachenko up close at the Walters fight and I'm not so sure he can put on that weight and box quite like the way he does, it works in his current division but we all saw what kind of issues he encountered when fighting Salido who was bigger than him.
Problem is there's not that many big money fights out there for Lomachenko in his current weight class.
That said I do like the idea of a Lomachenko v Gamboa fight, I think that would buy Lomachenko some good press should he prevail.

Crawford has way more dimensions to his game than Walters. Not even a good comparison.

He does and showed just how well he could avoid a confrontation against Postol.

Size wouldn't be too much, if any, of an issue. Loma's skill would negate any difference is physical attributes.

Impractical Poster wrote:Size wouldn't be too much, if any, of an issue. Loma's skill would negate any difference is physical attributes.

crusader wrote:

Best Coast wrote:

Evander wrote:Too small, got the skills though.

Great bigger man beats a great smaller man almost always and definitely in this case. Not only does Crawford have size advantage, but speed advantage too.

Russell beats Loma too, right?

Lomachenko is taller than Russell, has a longer reach, and is competing in the same weight division. Crawford is 3 divisions north of both fighters, 3.5" taller than Russell, and 6" longer wingspan. Oh, also, Crawford is significantly better than Russell pound-for-pound.

I think TC beats Loma and no doubt he's quite a different fighter than Russell. Im just teasing BC, as he's one of those people who picked Russell to win a rematch, despite Loma comfortably getting the better of him when they fought, and despite Russell's one notable victim being absolutely nothing like Loma in terms of style or ability.

I still struggle to comprehend how some believe that Russell beating slow, stiff, easy to hit Gonzalez suggests that's he's now better than the highly skilled, fleet footed boxer who left him hitting air all night after just 2 pro fights.