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Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 18:44
by Taansend
At 164.5.

Good fight? Crap fight? Pointless?

I see people are already calling Canelo a coward & I can see why they are upset (GGG) although I don't like to call fighters cowards.

Even though I'd love to see Canelo GGG I think this is a decent fight to be had - assuming he & Golovkin can meet on September 16th.

Canelo hasn't really been involved in a major Mexican bout & even though Chavez Jnr has been on a self destruct path for the last few years he's still a big enough name to create a buzz, especially with my Mexican mates.

But I do appear to bee more easily pleased than many on here :lol:

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 18:45
by Oiky
It's nothing more than an embarrassment that hurts boxing even more.

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 18:46
by Taansend
Oiky wrote:It's nothing more than an embarrassment that hurts boxing even more.
This is the kind of response I was expecting :lol:

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 18:49
by Oiky
Taansend wrote:
Oiky wrote:It's nothing more than an embarrassment that hurts boxing even more.
This is the kind of response I was expecting :lol:
:lol:

Just my opinion, it seems they have made up their own weight classes and own reasons this ridiculous fight should happen. I love boxing, it will always be the best sport, but bouts like this damage it, and it's bouts like this why some people turn to mma, where some times the technique may lack and it's not quite the same, but where people get 50/50 fights and not so much politics .

Gets hard to defend boxing at times .

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 19:01
by Stevieb8006
Chavez jnrs a joke. I can't believe anyone takes him seriously.

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 19:13
by Taansend
Oiky wrote:
Taansend wrote:
Oiky wrote:It's nothing more than an embarrassment that hurts boxing even more.
This is the kind of response I was expecting :lol:
:lol:

Just my opinion, it seems they have made up their own weight classes and own reasons this ridiculous fight should happen. I love boxing, it will always be the best sport, but bouts like this damage it, and it's bouts like this why some people turn to mma, where some times the technique may lack and it's not quite the same, but where people get 50/50 fights and not so much politics .

Gets hard to defend boxing at times .
I completely get your response & ain't disagreeing with you.

But I'm the eternal optimist & rather than worrying about what fights should be made (f*ck all I can do about it) I just hope for the best from fights have HAVE been made.

I never pay for PPV so it's not like I'm losing out.

This is Jnr's last chance so we could well see a fired up version of him having a proper pop. At least that's what I'll be hoping for :D

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 19:23
by Crease
Canelo is a much better fighter. It's a bit of a mismatch if truth be told.

But this fight will sell MASSIVELY over the Cinco De Mayo weekend.
They genuinely couldn't have got a bigger all-Mexican bout in today's boxing.

Is this fight going to be at Middleweight?

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 19:29
by Taansend
Crease wrote:Canelo is a much better fighter. It's a bit of a mismatch if truth be told.

But this fight will sell MASSIVELY over the Cisco Denise Mayo weekend.
They genuinely couldn't have got a bigger all-Mexican bout in today's boxing.

Is this fight going to be at Middleweight?
164.5 pounds mate.

I think it's called the Half Super Middleweight division

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 19:30
by Oiky
Taansend wrote:
Oiky wrote:
Taansend wrote:
This is the kind of response I was expecting :lol:
:lol:

Just my opinion, it seems they have made up their own weight classes and own reasons this ridiculous fight should happen. I love boxing, it will always be the best sport, but bouts like this damage it, and it's bouts like this why some people turn to mma, where some times the technique may lack and it's not quite the same, but where people get 50/50 fights and not so much politics .

Gets hard to defend boxing at times .
I completely get your response & ain't disagreeing with you.

But I'm the eternal optimist & rather than worrying about what fights should be made (f*ck all I can do about it) I just hope for the best from fights have HAVE been made.

I never pay for PPV so it's not like I'm losing out.

This is Jnr's last chance so we could well see a fired up version of him having a proper pop. At least that's what I'll be hoping for :D
I suppose that is a very positive way to look at bad match ups, best way you can I suppose

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 13 Jan 2017, 20:15
by Cyclops
Two protected massive weight draining Mexican cheats.

The difference is that canelo is a MW draining to LMW and Jnr is a LHW draining to MW.

Wouldn't be surprised if jnr fucks Canenlo up, to be honest. Canelo has the dimensions of an over muscled WW. I think Jnr could present him with plenty of problems

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 04:55
by Rexob
Stevieb8006 wrote:Chavez jnrs a joke. I can't believe anyone takes him seriously.
This.

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 05:13
by Boxerbeetle
So it's Canelo (who is running scared of GGG) vs Chavez Jr (who essentially quit in his last significant fight).

Is it just me, or did Mexican fighters used to be better?

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 05:40
by Rexob
Boxerbeetle wrote:So it's Canelo (who is running scared of GGG) vs Chavez Jr (who essentially quit in his last significant fight).

Is it just me, or did Mexican fighters used to be better?
It will soon turn around when that wall goes up you watch.

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 07:42
by Andrew
Farcical fight.

A catch weight of 164 point f**king 5 lbs. plus also Chavez Jr gets fined $1million for every lb he is over.

Also read there is drug testing in this fight for a weight that Chavez hasn't made in years yet when Canelo had to make a weight for the first time in years ( v Liam Smith) there was no drug testing.

Conelo is a disgrace to the sport.

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 07:55
by Anzi
Alverez can't fight Golokin at middle, but can fight Chavez jr above the middleweight division ? It is disgraceful, he is waiting for Golokin to get older and go on the slide, as Mayweather did with Pacman.

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 07:59
by Nightmare Roy
I can't believe he's popular with Mexicans, he's such a fcking diva.

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 09:03
by Taansend
Boxerbeetle wrote:So it's Canelo (who is running scared of GGG) vs Chavez Jr (who essentially quit in his last significant fight).

Is it just me, or did Mexican fighters used to be better?
:TU:

It definitely ain't the Z- Men anymore

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 09:05
by Taansend
Rexob wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:So it's Canelo (who is running scared of GGG) vs Chavez Jr (who essentially quit in his last significant fight).

Is it just me, or did Mexican fighters used to be better?
It will soon turn around when that wall goes up you watch.
Is someone building a wall?

They've kept that quiet :lol:

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 09:09
by Supremo
No interest whatsoever in canelo until he does what he should do- fight GGG. He's a joke.

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 14:17
by Stuarty
Supremo wrote:No interest whatsoever in canelo until he does what he should do- fight GGG. He's a joke.
Yeah he's a cock! Especially after his speech post Khan! I actually think this could be a decent enough fight though. If Chavez is fired up which I think he will be then he'll make it entertaining while it lasts. Can't see anything other than a Canelo win though.

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 14:31
by Boxerbeetle
Stuarty30 wrote:
Supremo wrote:No interest whatsoever in canelo until he does what he should do- fight GGG. He's a joke.
Yeah he's a cock! Especially after his speech post Khan!
Yeah that was an embarrassing climbdown. Gets Golovkin in the ring to tell him 'We don't fvck around!' then drops the belt a week later :lol:

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 14:32
by Oiky
Boxerbeetle wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Supremo wrote:No interest whatsoever in canelo until he does what he should do- fight GGG. He's a joke.
Yeah he's a cock! Especially after his speech post Khan!
Yeah that was an embarrassing climbdown. Gets Golovkin in the ring to tell him 'We don't fvck around!' then drops the belt a week later :lol:
Exactly... And you still get idiots sticking up for this fight :brick:

Canelo is a mouthpiece

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 14:51
by liamlion
Its a meaningless and pointless fight.

When was the last time that Chavez jr fought? And when was the last time he fought at middleweight?

This is a clear attempt by Golden Boy to take advantage of the mexican market and cash in on a very safe fight for their prized asset Canelo. Did anyone see the article this week about Golden Boy's income? i understand that it showed that Canelo was their only fight who made them any money. No wonder they dont want to risk their Golden Goose agianst GGG? A loss could effectively fold the company.

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 15:51
by Boxerbeetle
liamlion wrote:Its a meaningless and pointless fight.

When was the last time that Chavez jr fought? And when was the last time he fought at middleweight?

This is a clear attempt by Golden Boy to take advantage of the mexican market and cash in on a very safe fight for their prized asset Canelo. Did anyone see the article this week about Golden Boy's income? i understand that it showed that Canelo was their only fight who made them any money. No wonder they dont want to risk their Golden Goose agianst GGG? A loss could effectively fold the company.
Yeah, doesn't Canelo bring in c. 97% of Golden Boy's revenue, something like that? Smart business to keep him in easy fights, but sh!t for the fans.

Re: Canelo v Chavez Jnr

Posted: 14 Jan 2017, 17:04
by Autobarn
They're taking the piss. But, this generation of fans is stupid enough to lap it up.

Cinnamon claiming so many times he's not a middleweight, to go up into super middleweight. And Chavez, who has not been known for his professionalism, is a liability going into big fights.

But they could end up putting an attractive fight on.