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This generation's "Fab Four" mix of Anthony Joshua, Deontay Wilder, Tyson Fury and Joseph Parker.

A final fight of the old lion Manny Pacquiao vs the phenom Vasyl Lomachenko at 140 lbs.

A round robin of Conor McGregor, Khabib Nurmagomedov, Yair Rodriguez

Rico Verhoeven vs Tyrone Spong.

Canelo v Golovkin just so everyone can stop talking about the prospect of a fight and start talking about the actual fight

And from a Brit perspective, a healthy Tyson Fury v Anthony Joshua

Oscar De La Hoya v Dana White

Golovkin v canelo
Fury v Joshua
Kovalev v ward 2

Oiky wrote:Golovkin v canelo
Fury v Joshua
Kovalev v ward 2

Excluding the Crawford-Postol fight, wasn't the Kovalev-Ward bout the worst viewed HBO PPV of 2016, which was compounded by Andre's contractual $5m guarantee and also the fact it wasn't such an exciting contest?

Spence Crawford

from a fan standpoint, i like action fights involving good boxers

ggg-abraham
bertebiev-gvozdyk
gonzales-inoue
thurman-spence

from a straight up business standpoint, what makes the most $

pacquiao-canelo
pacquiao-khan
canelo-ggg
joshua-haye

Fan standpoint:

Mayweather vs McGregor - it's not a good matchup, but the cross-sport appeal would be huge
Canelo vs GGG - just make it happen already, please!

Business standpoint:

Mayweather vs Pacquiao II - it wouldn't do as well as the first fight, but would still be huge, unfortunately
Mayweather vs McGregor - same reasons as above

From a british point of view Joshua Haye would have a massive cross over fan appeal and make a lot of money especially if they both get ko victories in there next fights

Enlightened-One wrote:

Oiky wrote:Golovkin v canelo
Fury v Joshua
Kovalev v ward 2

Excluding the Crawford-Postol fight, wasn't the Kovalev-Ward bout the worst viewed HBO PPV of 2016, which was compounded by Andre's contractual $5m guarantee and also the fact it wasn't such an exciting contest?

The anticipation for the rematch would ensure Kovalev-Ward II did well.

jezzamundo wrote:
Mayweather vs McGregor - it's not a good matchup, but the cross-sport appeal would be huge.

Can't see how it would be anything other than a complete an utter farce.

Like a Boss wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

Oiky wrote:Golovkin v canelo
Kovalev v ward 2

Excluding the Crawford-Postol fight, wasn't the Kovalev-Ward bout the worst viewed HBO PPV of 2016, which was compounded by Andre's contractual $5m guarantee and also the fact it wasn't such an exciting contest?

The anticipation for the rematch would ensure Kovalev-Ward II did well.

I agree that the hardcore fans would love to see the rematch, but I’m not so sure about the mainstream casuals, since the first bout tailored more for boxing purists than casuals who only yearn for blood and guts trench warfare type contests.

On my wish list.

Any combination of Andre Ward, Sergey Kovalev, Adonis Stevenson and Artur Beterbiev at Light Heavyweight

Any combination of James DeGale, Callum Smith and George Groves at Super Middle weight.
Gennady Golovkin v Canelo or Billy Joe.Saunders at Middleweight
Kell Brook v the winner of Danny Garcia and Keith Thurman at Welterweight

Are my immediate standouts

Enlightened-One wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: Excluding the Crawford-Postol fight, wasn't the Kovalev-Ward bout the worst viewed HBO PPV of 2016, which was compounded by Andre's contractual $5m guarantee and also the fact it wasn't such an exciting contest?

The anticipation for the rematch would ensure Kovalev-Ward II did well.

I agree that the hardcore fans would love to see the rematch, but I’m not so sure about the mainstream casuals, since the first bout tailored more for boxing purists than casuals who only yearn for blood and guts trench warfare type contests.

Mayweather vs Pacquiao was never going to be "blood and guts trench warfare." Yet it is the biggest fight - by many measures anyway - of all time.

Like a Boss wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

Like a Boss wrote: The anticipation for the rematch would ensure Kovalev-Ward II did well.

I agree that the hardcore fans would love to see the rematch, but I’m not so sure about the mainstream casuals, since the first bout tailored more for boxing purists than casuals who only yearn for blood and guts trench warfare type contests.

Mayweather vs Pacquiao was never going to be "blood and guts trench warfare." Yet it is the biggest fight - by many measures anyway - of all time.

Agreed, but Ward and Kovalev aren't the most charismatic of individuals and they didn't spend six years selling the bout.

Enlightened-One wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: I agree that the hardcore fans would love to see the rematch, but I’m not so sure about the mainstream casuals, since the first bout tailored more for boxing purists than casuals who only yearn for blood and guts trench warfare type contests.

Mayweather vs Pacquiao was never going to be "blood and guts trench warfare." Yet it is the biggest fight - by many measures anyway - of all time.

Agreed, but Ward and Kovalev aren't the most charismatic of individuals and they didn't spend six years selling the bout.

True, but blood and guts isn't the only thing that sells either.

Like a Boss wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:
Mayweather vs Pacquiao was never going to be "blood and guts trench warfare." Yet it is the biggest fight - by many measures anyway - of all time.

Agreed, but Ward and Kovalev aren't the most charismatic of individuals and they didn't spend six years selling the bout.

True, but blood and guts isn't the only thing that sells either.

What sells the Kovalev-Ward fight to mainstream casuals, considering:
• The first fight experienced a low PPV buy-rate
• Their first bout lacked action after the second round
• Both pugilists lack charisma
• Very few casuals probably know who either guy is

What else sells the bout?

Whilst I’d love to see Ward face Kovalev again, I doubt there’s really any interest from the general public.

Enlightened-One wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: Agreed, but Ward and Kovalev aren't the most charismatic of individuals and they didn't spend six years selling the bout.

True, but blood and guts isn't the only thing that sells either.

What sells the Kovalev-Ward fight to mainstream casuals, considering:
• The first fight experienced a low PPV buy-rate
• Their first bout lacked action after the second round
• Both pugilists lack charisma
• Very few casuals probably know who either guy is

What else sells the bout?

Whilst I’d love to see Ward face Kovalev again, I doubt there’s really any interest from the general public.

Do you really think anyone who bought the first fight wouldn't buy the second? The controversy of the first result and the publicity it has received would ensure many others jump on board for the rematch.

Francisco Vargas vs. Orlando Salido rematch would be good for business and the fans.

Like a Boss wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:
True, but blood and guts isn't the only thing that sells either.

What sells the Kovalev-Ward fight to mainstream casuals, considering:
• The first fight experienced a low PPV buy-rate
• Their first bout lacked action after the second round
• Both pugilists lack charisma
• Very few casuals probably know who either guy is

What else sells the bout?

Whilst I’d love to see Ward face Kovalev again, I doubt there’s really any interest from the general public.

Do you really think anyone who bought the first fight wouldn't buy the second? The controversy of the first result and the publicity it has received would ensure many others jump on board for the rematch.

The hard-core boxing fraternity will almost certainly watch a Kovalev-Ward rematch, but any casual that watched the first bout probably wouldn’t want to see it again.

For sure, it’s entirely possible that a prospective Kovalev-Ward II could achieve a better buyrate than the measly 160K that paid the privilege to watch the first bout, but the difference is likely to be trivial.

The S.O.G. will still demand his contractually stipulated $5m payday, which will render the bout loss-making (from Roc Nation’s perspective).

So from a business perspective, the bout doesn’t make financial sense. From a sporting fan viewpoint, only hardcore boxing fans would want to see the rematch, since the first bout probably wouldn’t satisfy casuals who demand blood and guts warfare, exciting slugfests.

Like a Boss wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:
Mayweather vs McGregor - it's not a good matchup, but the cross-sport appeal would be huge.

Can't see how it would be anything other than a complete an utter farce.

From a business standpoint it will make a lot of money.