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mimmy123 wrote:This actually pisses me right off. 3 fight novice from Bulgaria Svetoslav Dimitrov http://boxrec.com/boxer/722148

While the opponent is ok for Harley I just dont agree with bringing over a Bulgarian when there are opponents in the UK that are keeping the BBBoC in money. There are 115 British middleweights in this country and thet have to pluck out of thin air a Bulgarian. Where do they find these boxers? Why do we need Eastern Europeans taking money from lads in this country that are perfectly able to fight and possibly can do with the income? Is having a Bulgarian on your record some sort of toughness symbol?

Whats wrong with Dean Croft for example http://boxrec.com/boxer/659935 or Tommy Carter http://boxrec.com/boxer/763666 ? Arent they good enough for the young Benn boxer? honestly the BBBoC need to look at employing someone to oversee that lads in this country get a payday at this stage of a boxers career rather than letting shite through the doors to go down in 1 round and take the wage packet. Boils my piss. BBBoC know eff all.

mickey1975 wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:This actually pisses me right off. 3 fight novice from Bulgaria Svetoslav Dimitrov http://boxrec.com/boxer/722148

While the opponent is ok for Harley I just dont agree with bringing over a Bulgarian when there are opponents in the UK that are keeping the BBBoC in money. There are 115 British middleweights in this country and thet have to pluck out of thin air a Bulgarian. Where do they find these boxers? Why do we need Eastern Europeans taking money from lads in this country that are perfectly able to fight and possibly can do with the income? Is having a Bulgarian on your record some sort of toughness symbol?

Whats wrong with Dean Croft for example http://boxrec.com/boxer/659935 or Tommy Carter http://boxrec.com/boxer/763666 ? Arent they good enough for the young Benn boxer? honestly the BBBoC need to look at employing someone to oversee that lads in this country get a payday at this stage of a boxers career rather than letting shite through the doors to go down in 1 round and take the wage packet. Boils my piss. BBBoC know eff all.

Dean Croft is a close friend of mine, he got offered Conor Benn on the AJ show but the money was crap and he had a few niggles from a fight the week before.

mickey1975 wrote:Frank pays better than Eddie, so he can get in more choice.

bripez wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:Frank pays better than Eddie, so he can get in more choice.

I thought that Matchroom were the better payers - all this earn with Hearn stuff?

Or is it that with Hearn there is a better chance of actually getting paid?

mimmy123 wrote: thet have to pluck out of thin air a Bulgarian. Where do they find these boxers?

asdfjkl wrote:For someone in the UK 10k is nothing, for a Bulgarian it's a lot of money, so they will accept more easy.

asdfjkl wrote:For someone in the UK 10k is nothing, for a Bulgarian it's a lot of money, so they will accept more easy.

joelouis1234 wrote:The unfortunate reality for a lot of promoters & matchmakers is that they can easily make up to 30 or 40 telephone calls in a single attempt to find an opponent for one local lad on a show only to be told over & over again for a wide variety of reasons that a potential opponent is unavailable.Eventually an opponent is found & agreed & often a week or two later a phone call is made to the promoter or matchmaker with somebody saying 'sorry the said opponent has now withdrawn' for some reason! In contrast one or two calls or an email sent to a foreign agent produces an opponent who nine out of ten times appears on the day! I don't think the issue is that British boxers are not being offered work or that they are not seen as the preference, on the contrary a UK opponent usually works out less expensive for the promoter, but rather the issue is that many potential UK opponents or rather their managers, for various reasons decline the offers of work.If you look through the weight divisions of the U.K. rankings you will see at least 10 to 15 local lads who have carefully matched winning records. These are often local 'ticket sellers' who promoters have an incentive to keep winning. Those lads won't be sent away for fights unless there is a realistic chance of winning or if a title fight of some sort arises. Others with very good records often won't be Invited to fight local ticket sellers or novices as they would be considered too much of a risk & they themselves or rather their managers usually wont send them away to fight through fear of losing their 'O' & often the regular quality journeymen are already booked out months in advance.

asdfjkl wrote:For someone in the UK 10k is nothing, for a Bulgarian it's a lot of money, so they will accept more easy.

davie wrote:

mimmy123 wrote: thet have to pluck out of thin air a Bulgarian. Where do they find these boxers?

Bulgaria?






Sorry, couldn't let that one pass

davie wrote:

mimmy123 wrote: thet have to pluck out of thin air a Bulgarian. Where do they find these boxers?

Bulgaria?






Sorry, couldn't let that one pass

Londonirish wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:For someone in the UK 10k is nothing, for a Bulgarian it's a lot of money, so they will accept more easy.

10K is nothing Lend me a few quid.......????


They'd be lucky to get 3.5k with expenses and that because of who there fighting. A normal non TV show against your average boxer id say they'd get around 700.

mimmy123 wrote:This actually pisses me right off. 3 fight novice from Bulgaria Svetoslav Dimitrov http://boxrec.com/boxer/722148

While the opponent is ok for Harley I just dont agree with bringing over a Bulgarian when there are opponents in the UK that are keeping the BBBoC in money. There are 115 British middleweights in this country and thet have to pluck out of thin air a Bulgarian. Where do they find these boxers? Why do we need Eastern Europeans taking money from lads in this country that are perfectly able to fight and possibly can do with the income? Is having a Bulgarian on your record some sort of toughness symbol?

Whats wrong with Dean Croft for example http://boxrec.com/boxer/659935 or Tommy Carter http://boxrec.com/boxer/763666 ? Arent they good enough for the young Benn boxer? honestly the BBBoC need to look at employing someone to oversee that lads in this country get a payday at this stage of a boxers career rather than letting shite through the doors to go down in 1 round and take the wage packet. Boils my piss. BBBoC know eff all.

Muttley wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:This actually pisses me right off. 3 fight novice from Bulgaria Svetoslav Dimitrov http://boxrec.com/boxer/722148

While the opponent is ok for Harley I just dont agree with bringing over a Bulgarian when there are opponents in the UK that are keeping the BBBoC in money. There are 115 British middleweights in this country and thet have to pluck out of thin air a Bulgarian. Where do they find these boxers? Why do we need Eastern Europeans taking money from lads in this country that are perfectly able to fight and possibly can do with the income? Is having a Bulgarian on your record some sort of toughness symbol?

Whats wrong with Dean Croft for example http://boxrec.com/boxer/659935 or Tommy Carter http://boxrec.com/boxer/763666 ? Arent they good enough for the young Benn boxer? honestly the BBBoC need to look at employing someone to oversee that lads in this country get a payday at this stage of a boxers career rather than letting shite through the doors to go down in 1 round and take the wage packet. Boils my piss. BBBoC know eff all.

Great post. I agree but I expect these imports comes very very very cheap. No excuse,though, its about time our young pros got the opportunity to earn a few quid

mimmy123 wrote:

Muttley wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:This actually pisses me right off. 3 fight novice from Bulgaria Svetoslav Dimitrov http://boxrec.com/boxer/722148

While the opponent is ok for Harley I just dont agree with bringing over a Bulgarian when there are opponents in the UK that are keeping the BBBoC in money. There are 115 British middleweights in this country and thet have to pluck out of thin air a Bulgarian. Where do they find these boxers? Why do we need Eastern Europeans taking money from lads in this country that are perfectly able to fight and possibly can do with the income? Is having a Bulgarian on your record some sort of toughness symbol?

Whats wrong with Dean Croft for example http://boxrec.com/boxer/659935 or Tommy Carter http://boxrec.com/boxer/763666 ? Arent they good enough for the young Benn boxer? honestly the BBBoC need to look at employing someone to oversee that lads in this country get a payday at this stage of a boxers career rather than letting shite through the doors to go down in 1 round and take the wage packet. Boils my piss. BBBoC know eff all.

Great post. I agree but I expect these imports comes very very very cheap. No excuse,though, its about time our young pros got the opportunity to earn a few quid

It upsets me that lads in this country dont get a look in and this is not the first example. The BBBoC should clamp down on this sort of thing but they are so inept full of old duffers who collectively know nothing about boxing.

expe wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:

Muttley wrote:
Great post. I agree but I expect these imports comes very very very cheap. No excuse,though, its about time our young pros got the opportunity to earn a few quid

It upsets me that lads in this country dont get a look in and this is not the first example. The BBBoC should clamp down on this sort of thing but they are so inept full of old duffers who collectively know nothing about boxing.

There is nothing the board can do, even if they wanted to, which they shouldn't. There aren't enough domestic journeymen about and they're frequently unreliable, as posted above, leading to mad scrambles to find opponents at short notice, which usually end in a eastern European opponent anyway.

Just because a fighter is from this country doesn't mean they have some sort of divine right to a payday in the early stages of a prospects career, not like the crowd are paying to see them. If the promoter/matchmaker wants to bring in a fighter from abroad then they're perfectly free to do so, as they should be. In this case he probably shouldn't be fighting this Bulgarian because the likelihood is that he's absolutely terrible and he should have a better opponent, where that opponent is from is absolutely irrelevant.

Where does this whole give domestic fighters a payday shite end? Should all British world champions make regular defences against domestic opponents to give them a payday too?

johnnygreaves wrote:I can 100% confirm. That's allegedly pays much better ££. And instead of a holiday inn. I was put up very well thank you very much !!

mimmy123 wrote:This actually pisses me right off. 3 fight novice from Bulgaria Svetoslav Dimitrov http://boxrec.com/boxer/722148

While the opponent is ok for Harley I just dont agree with bringing over a Bulgarian when there are opponents in the UK that are keeping the BBBoC in money. There are 115 British middleweights in this country and thet have to pluck out of thin air a Bulgarian. Where do they find these boxers? Why do we need Eastern Europeans taking money from lads in this country that are perfectly able to fight and possibly can do with the income? Is having a Bulgarian on your record some sort of toughness symbol?

Whats wrong with Dean Croft for example http://boxrec.com/boxer/659935 or Tommy Carter http://boxrec.com/boxer/763666 ? Arent they good enough for the young Benn boxer? honestly the BBBoC need to look at employing someone to oversee that lads in this country get a payday at this stage of a boxers career rather than letting shite through the doors to go down in 1 round and take the wage packet. Boils my piss. BBBoC know eff all.