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Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 26 Jan 2017, 16:37
by DannyMCR
On Wednesday, Cuban heavyweight contender Luis Ortiz advised BS.com's Ryan Burton that he was ready, willing and able to fight WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder on February 25th at Legacy Arena in Birmingham, Alabama
Tell Wilder, 'hey I'm here, I'll take the February 25 fight. Let me know and stop wasting the fans' time with these fights'," Luis Ortiz (27-0-2, 23 KOs).
We eliminated anybody from consideration who has a history of PEDs. We are not going to fight any boxer with a history of PEDs on a month's notice," DiBella told BS.com
http://www.BS.com/wilder-promo ... hEWO0.dpuf
Well, that's one way of avoiding a fight
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 26 Jan 2017, 17:14
by boxing_rocks
It is easier to say which of top HWs Wilder doesn't duck: NONE.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 26 Jan 2017, 17:33
by greg
..now, folks..seems like we've got an explanation why Wilder's been a bottom feeder all along:
he's been avoiding anyone who has a history of PEDS..makes sense, doesn't it
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 26 Jan 2017, 17:52
by asdfjkl
DannyMCR wrote:On Wednesday, Cuban heavyweight contender Luis Ortiz advised BS.com's Ryan Burton that he was ready, willing and able to fight WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder on February 25th at Legacy Arena in Birmingham, Alabama
Tell Wilder, 'hey I'm here, I'll take the February 25 fight. Let me know and stop wasting the fans' time with these fights'," Luis Ortiz (27-0-2, 23 KOs).
We eliminated anybody from consideration who has a history of PEDs. We are not going to fight any boxer with a history of PEDs on a month's notice," DiBella told BS.com
http://www.BS.com/wilder-promo ... hEWO0.dpuf
Well, that's one way of avoiding a fight
But didn't they prove themself to be liers on this point already by challenging that junk that got busted several times called Arreola?
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 26 Jan 2017, 19:15
by Jip
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 26 Jan 2017, 20:02
by Evander
Maybe our lot our attempting to weaken Wilder with such a challenge.
Ortiz fights out of the UK why are none of our lot challenging Ortiz ?
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 26 Jan 2017, 20:39
by Badhusker
Wilder needs to step up and fight. It is a bullshit excuse to not fight someone because they have tested positive before. Make them immediately enroll in random testing. I read Fury said he will also fight Wilder on the February date. What more could he ask for?
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 26 Jan 2017, 21:48
by marvelous marv
To clarify they said no past PED users on 4 weeks notice. Am i the only one who read the article...
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 26 Jan 2017, 22:02
by Evander
Get Whyte to challenge Wilder ... Chisora as a back up would be worth brownie points especially if the Chisora v Whyte rematch didn't happen.
Could do in the UK Wilder might be open for that.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 26 Jan 2017, 22:08
by asdfjkl
marvelous marv wrote:To clarify they said no past PED users on 4 weeks notice. Am i the only one who read the article...
That makes him a pussy right? Real boxers like Ortiz have no problems with this.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 26 Jan 2017, 22:09
by asdfjkl
Evander wrote:Get Whyte to challenge Wilder ... Chisora as a back up would be worth brownie points especially if the Chisora v Whyte rematch didn't happen.
Could do in the UK Wilder might be open for that.
It can't become Whyte any more as the text suggests.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 01:03
by marvelous marv
asdfjkl wrote: marvelous marv wrote:
To clarify they said no past PED users on 4 weeks notice. Am i the only one who read the article...
That makes him a pussy right? Real boxers like Ortiz have no problems with this.
I would say the coward here is the guy who needed to inject Nandrolone into his ass before a fight.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 03:46
by Enlightened-One
Evander wrote:Maybe our lot our attempting to weaken Wilder with such a challenge.
Ortiz fights out of the UK why are none of our lot challenging Ortiz ?
Ortiz has looked terrible in his last two (arguably three) fights.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 03:49
by Enlightened-One
marvelous marv wrote:To clarify they said no past PED users on 4 weeks notice. Am i the only one who read the article...
People refrain from educating themselves with knowledge of any information that doesn't adhere to their preferred narrative.
If the facts aren't agreeable to them, then they get ignored.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 04:25
by Kalan
The Nandrolone was inadvertent usage... He's a Cuban and they eat horse meat... Horses are sometimes injected with Nandrolone and other Steroids. He's responsible for what goes into his body -- but Stiverne was given a complete pass for using PED's... Let's have consistency.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 08:56
by Badhusker
Kalan wrote:The Nandrolone was inadvertent usage... He's a Cuban and they eat horse meat... Horses are sometimes injected with Nandrolone and other Steroids. He's responsible for what goes into his body -- but Stiverne was given a complete pass for using PED's... Let's have consistency.
Talking apples vs oranges. You don't inadvertantly consume steroids by eating horse meat, when you have been caught before, unless you are a total idiot. Stiverne's situation was completely different, no matter how many times you say it was the same.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 10:10
by montrealsuper
Wilder is carefully protected worse than Carnera was - pay no attention to this fraud pretender who in actuality is just the ALA hwt beltholder -
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 10:22
by boxing_rocks
Enlightened-One wrote:Evander wrote:Maybe our lot our attempting to weaken Wilder with such a challenge.
Ortiz fights out of the UK why are none of our lot challenging Ortiz ?
Ortiz has looked terrible in his last two (arguably three) fights.
He still looked too good for Wilder to take on him.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 10:40
by punchoutsb
marvelous marv wrote:asdfjkl wrote: marvelous marv wrote:
To clarify they said no past PED users on 4 weeks notice. Am i the only one who read the article...
That makes him a pussy right? Real boxers like Ortiz have no problems with this.
I would say the coward here is the guy who needed to inject Nandrolone into his ass before a fight.
I would say neither of you know what the word pussy or coward means.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 11:35
by tiny_acres
punchoutsb wrote:marvelous marv wrote:asdfjkl wrote: marvelous marv wrote:
To clarify they said no past PED users on 4 weeks notice. Am i the only one who read the article...
That makes him a pussy right? Real boxers like Ortiz have no problems with this.
I would say the coward here is the guy who needed to inject Nandrolone into his ass before a fight.
I would say neither of you know what the word pussy or coward means.
I personally find it cowardly to have to use drugs to cheat.
But that is just my opinion
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 11:39
by punchoutsb
tiny_acres wrote:punchoutsb wrote:marvelous marv wrote:
I would say the coward here is the guy who needed to inject Nandrolone into his ass before a fight.
I would say neither of you know what the word pussy or coward means.
I personally find it cowardly to have to use drugs to cheat.
But that is just my opinion
It's only cheating because there is still a sector pushing faux-morality preventing athletes from using every avenue to work for success. PED laws/rules are, for the most part, stupid and the only excuses made for them being a good thing are:
Health...as if sports are a healthy venture in the first place
and
Fairness or equality...as if all athletes have access to the same facilities, coaches, food, etc etc etc.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 12:52
by MachoTime
Ortiz tested positive for the anabolic steroid Nandrolone following a September 11 knockout victory over Lateef Kayode in Las Vegas. He was suspended, fined and had the result of the fight changed to a no contest by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. He was suspended for eight months from the date of the fight and fined him $8,000 (10 percent of his $80,000 purse) and he was even required to pay commission $450 for the lab test on his sample. Besides that, he was also required to perform 15 hours of community service... - See more at:
http://www.BS.com/wilder-promo ... EQ4vv.dpuf
Considering Boxing is a hazardous sport. Rules should be stricter.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 13:28
by davie
Why does everyone have to take a side in these debates
let have it like it is. Wilder is a protected fighter that hand picks sub-par opposition AND Ortiz is a proven drug cheat.
Why does it have to be one or the other
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 13:30
by punchoutsb
MachoTime wrote:Ortiz tested positive for the anabolic steroid Nandrolone following a September 11 knockout victory over Lateef Kayode in Las Vegas. He was suspended, fined and had the result of the fight changed to a no contest by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. He was suspended for eight months from the date of the fight and fined him $8,000 (10 percent of his $80,000 purse) and he was even required to pay commission $450 for the lab test on his sample. Besides that, he was also required to perform 15 hours of community service... - See more at:
http://www.BS.com/wilder-promo ... EQ4vv.dpuf
Considering Boxing is a hazardous sport. Rules should be stricter.
I don't think you could explain that train of thought to the end of the tracks.
Re: Wilder ducks Ortiz
Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 13:46
by Enlightened-One
boxing_rocks wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:Evander wrote:Maybe our lot our attempting to weaken Wilder with such a challenge.
Ortiz fights out of the UK why are none of our lot challenging Ortiz ?
Ortiz has looked terrible in his last two (arguably three) fights.
He still looked too good for Wilder to take on him.
Didn't Ortiz test positive for PED's though, not that it would have mattered, since I doubt Wilder would have been willing to face him anyway?