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Why don't we just admit it and stop pretending that this fight was so great. Rematches rarely live up to the first fights so it shouldn't be a shock to any of us. This rematch was horrible from the start and aside from the last round, this was a stinker. I've never seen so many wild punches missed by both guys and with the excessive holding throughout, it was a very ugly fight to watch. Maybe a third fight would be better but I'm not counting on it.

LSC now has the key to beating Carl so a third fight is going to look a lot like the second...unappealing. How the judges had this fight so close is beyond me. LSC won this fight by a large margin in my opinion.


Just be honest...this fight sucked. The REAL fights were on HBO last night. Two incredible battles and what i'd rather watch with my money.

What's your personal definition of a "good" fight?

I agree that the fight was disappointing. The more skilled fighters where on Showtime but the better fights were on HBO last night imo.

TBH ive not seen anyone say the rematch was a great fight

handsofstone wrote:TBH ive not seen anyone say the rematch was a great fight

I think it was an excellent fight, but LSC controlled it throughout and Frampton could not adjust. LSC won it in the preparation and the execution. Frampton (and most of the rest of the boxing world) did not believe that LSC could outbox him.

It was a beautiful fight by Leo Santa Cruz and he deserves huge respect for his ability to completely change styles for this fight. He proved a huge percentage of people wrong last night.

LSC is far better than most thought.

I liked it, LSC was more cunning this time and it worked. It was a good fight

Tanzio wrote:

handsofstone wrote:TBH ive not seen anyone say the rematch was a great fight

I think it was an excellent fight, but LSC controlled it throughout and Frampton could not adjust. LSC won it in the preparation and the execution. Frampton (and most of the rest of the boxing world) did not believe that LSC could outbox him.

It was a beautiful fight by Leo Santa Cruz and he deserves huge respect for his ability to completely change styles for this fight. He proved a huge percentage of people wrong last night.

LSC is far better than most thought.

I personally didn't think it was a great fight but I agree with everything else you said

Thought it was a great fight and thoroughly enjoyed watching it.
Not going to compare it with other fights on showtime, I dont this that''s the point here. There's another thread going where the poster has stated the same that they didnt think it was a good fight. Everyone has opinions. I thought it was entertaining, high class display particularly by LSC against a very tenacious opponent - hence why i thought it was great - just my opinion. I am sure everyone will tune in for the 3rd installment.

I thought it was a terrible fight.

I don't think it was bad, plus the first fight wasn't that great. They were about the same.

I agree the rematch was disappointing compared to the first fight, but it was still decent enough.

caldo2025 wrote:Why don't we just admit it and stop pretending that this fight was so great. Rematches rarely live up to the first fights so it shouldn't be a shock to any of us. This rematch was horrible from the start and aside from the last round, this was a stinker. I've never seen so many wild punches missed by both guys and with the excessive holding throughout, it was a very ugly fight to watch. Maybe a third fight would be better but I'm not counting on it.

LSC now has the key to beating Carl so a third fight is going to look a lot like the second...unappealing. How the judges had this fight so close is beyond me. LSC won this fight by a large margin in my opinion.


Just be honest...this fight sucked. The REAL fights were on HBO last night. Two incredible battles and what i'd rather watch with my money.

You say the rematch was horrible, a stinker, it sucked, was an ugly fight to watch.....but in a different thread you said you weren't an idiot, and would for sure watch the 3rd? Well, if you do, do us a favor and don't come back here and once again tell us how much it sucked and was not worth watching.

It didn't suck but it was far from a great fight.

It was a solid fight, had some great moments. Thought the HBO card was better than the Showtime one, but both were good and from the 4 main bouts we had a great time as fight fans.

Both men showed their class but the fight wasn't a great watch. Generally the smaller weight classes don't turn me on ;) and this was the case expect for Mickey Garcia. i love his style. I'd probably like to watch him more than lomachenko. Still the Cruz fight did have moments of tension, a bit of back and forth but overall was more frustrating watching frampton wing and miss. Not a great fight besides I didn't rate the first one so highly.

The fight wasn't better than the first, but it wasn't disappointing. I don't think anyone has said it was better than the first. I'm glad no one is screaming ROBBERY.

I think a third fight isn't needed as they both won close majority decision, but seeing as it is 1-1, fans want a trilogy. I think the third fight will be another close majority or split decision.

It wasn't as good as the 1st fight but was still OK IMO. Thought LSC won far clearer than the scorecards suggest.

It was dissapointing because it wasn't nearly as good as the first fight.

Personally this fight showed me one thing that I thought might be true after the Quigg fight.
Frampton is not a top fighter. I don't think he will ever be in a top 10 p4p list.
The reason is that I have never rated LSC very highly. He isn't a good boxer but with average skills imo. The first fight between them, I gave the benefit of the doubt to Frampton since he was the smaller guy moving up in weight, and taking on LSC in his first fight was a big task. I thought that Frampton would be better in the second fight and would have LSC figured out and win more convincingly. However Frampton doesn't have a high enough boxing IQ to decontruct a rather simple puzzle in LSC.

klitoris wrote:It was dissapointing because it wasn't nearly as good as the first fight.

Personally this fight showed me one thing that I thought might be true after the Quigg fight.
Frampton is not a top fighter. I don't think he will ever be in a top 10 p4p list.
The reason is that I have never rated LSC very highly. He isn't a good boxer but with average skills imo. The first fight between them, I gave the benefit of the doubt to Frampton since he was the smaller guy moving up in weight, and taking on LSC in his first fight was a big task. I thought that Frampton would be better in the second fight and would have LSC figured out and win more convincingly. However Frampton doesn't have a high enough boxing IQ to decontruct a rather simple puzzle in LSC.

Now Frampton is not a top fighter because he lost to LSC? What a load of crap. LSC is a top fighter. He is not elite but he is excellent and he deserves credit for out-boxing Frampton, another top fighter.

You are arguing about terminology. The point is that including him in p4p top 10 and making him fighter of the year was way too much.

I think it was a pleasant surprise to see LSC show more facets than he had previously shown. To out box guys like Mares and Frampton, shows he belongs with the elite. These are multiple weight world champs he is clearly beating. Gotta give credit where it's due.

Wasn't a stinker. Wasn't a classic. Just because a rematch isn't as good as the first fight doesn't mean you can't still enjoy watching it

klitoris wrote:It was dissapointing because it wasn't nearly as good as the first fight.

Personally this fight showed me one thing that I thought might be true after the Quigg fight.
Frampton is not a top fighter. I don't think he will ever be in a top 10 p4p list.
The reason is that I have never rated LSC very highly. He isn't a good boxer but with average skills imo. The first fight between them, I gave the benefit of the doubt to Frampton since he was the smaller guy moving up in weight, and taking on LSC in his first fight was a big task. I thought that Frampton would be better in the second fight and would have LSC figured out and win more convincingly. However Frampton doesn't have a high enough boxing IQ to decontruct a rather simple puzzle in LSC.

yeah and I found Holy v Bowe 2 and 3 disappointing because it wasnt as good as the first, much like ward v gatti - REALLY??.
So if Framnpton beat LSC you would suggest he's p4p top 10?? But LSC is a simple boxer to solve ? LSC showed his ability to change from the first encounter and it worked against the smaller fighter. No one is suggesting Frampton is p4p top 10 but he's a hell of a fighter and deserves praise.

Horse wrote:I thought it was a terrible fight.

Get back in your box!

boxing_rocks wrote:You are arguing about terminology. The point is that including him in p4p top 10 and making him fighter of the year was way too much.

I disagree. Frampton earned it. LSC deserves respect for his skills, ring intelligence / ability to adapt. Neither of them may be top 10 p4p but they are both top 20 and LSC is very close given that performance. LSC sent a message to anyone within his weight range. He is a formidable challenge for anyone.