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British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 31 Jan 2017, 20:00
by Horse
1. (3.) James DeGale
2. (2.) Carl Frampton
3. (1.) Tyson Fury
4. (4.) Kell Brook
5. (5.) Jamie McDonnell
6. (6.) Amir Khan
7. (7.) Lee Selby
8. (8.) George Groves
9. (9.) Tony Bellew
10. (10.) Terry Flanagan

11. (11.) Scott Quigg
12. (12.) Billy Joe Saunders
13. (13.) Ricky Burns
14. (14.) Anthony Crolla
15. (15.) Khalid Yafai
16. (16.) Callum Smith
17. (17.) Nathan Cleverly
18. (18.) Anthony Joshua
19. (19.) Martin Murray
20. (20.) Lee Haskins

21. (21.) Luke Campbell
22. (22.) Chris Eubank Jr.
23. (23.) Dillian Whyte
24. (24.) Dereck Chisora
25. (25.) Andy Lee (Irish)
26. (26.) Stuart Hall
27. (27.) Stephen Smith
28. (28.) Bradley Skeete
29. (29.) Sam Eggington
30. (30.) Liam Walsh

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 31 Jan 2017, 20:01
by Horse
Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 03:31
by wesshaw1985
Horse wrote:Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.
If Tyson Fury was 1 last month he should still be this month.
DeGale drew and got beat up.
Frampton lost by a couple of rounds.

To jump Tyson they would have to beat the top man in their respective divisions comfortably. IMO...

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 04:12
by davie
wesshaw1985 wrote:
Horse wrote:Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.
If Tyson Fury was 1 last month he should still be this month.
DeGale drew and got beat up.
Frampton lost by a couple of rounds.

To jump Tyson they would have to beat the top man in their respective divisions comfortably. IMO...
To be fair, Fury should be removed for inactivity.
As Horse has a policy of not doing so, I wouldn't complain about him dropping a spot or 2, although it is an odd time to choose to do so when the 2 that overtook him failed to win..

The argument could be made that 2 of our best fighters had solid performances against top level operators.

Either way, I wont complain at Fury dropping. My question would be why was he still number 1 last month.....


All in it's not a bad list. Khan still looks a bit high

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 06:37
by Horse
wesshaw1985 wrote:If Tyson Fury was 1 last month he should still be this month.
DeGale drew and got beat up.
Frampton lost by a couple of rounds.

To jump Tyson they would have to beat the top man in their respective divisions comfortably. IMO...
Fury has been inactive, so he is easier to overtake than normal.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 08:52
by wesshaw1985
Horse wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:If Tyson Fury was 1 last month he should still be this month.
DeGale drew and got beat up.
Frampton lost by a couple of rounds.

To jump Tyson they would have to beat the top man in their respective divisions comfortably. IMO...
Fury has been inactive, so he is easier to overtake than normal.
Agreed. But why was he top in the first place? I'm guessing it was because he beat the number 1 guy at his weight.
DeGale and Frampton haven't matched or bettered that.
They should still be behind him imo...

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 09:04
by Switch hitter
Khan way too high.....

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 09:08
by handsofstone
Martin Murray too low and Andy Lee was born in London

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 09:29
by freddydoesdallas
No hughie fury or kid galahad. Clear bias against accidental drug cheats

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 10:18
by EdwinValero
Would personally swap Burns and Quigg round and Khan is too high.

But its all a game of opinions i suppose :TU:

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 15:29
by Andrew
Horse wrote:Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.
:lol: course they are.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 16:01
by Horse
davie wrote:To be fair, Fury should be removed for inactivity.
As Horse has a policy of not doing so, I wouldn't complain about him dropping a spot or 2, although it is an odd time to choose to do so when the 2 that overtook him failed to win..

The argument could be made that 2 of our best fighters had solid performances against top level operators.

Either way, I wont complain at Fury dropping. My question would be why was he still number 1 last month.....
Who should have been No. 1?
davie wrote:All in it's not a bad list. Khan still looks a bit high
If Selby had beaten Barros last month then Khan would have dropped a place.

Unfortunately boxing is the worst sport in the world and that fight didn't happen.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 16:02
by Horse
wesshaw1985 wrote:Agreed. But why was he top in the first place? I'm guessing it was because he beat the number 1 guy at his weight.
DeGale and Frampton haven't matched or bettered that.
They should still be behind him imo...
When Fury comes back then he can reclaim the top spot.

He deserves to start dropping now though.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 16:09
by wesshaw1985
Horse wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:Agreed. But why was he top in the first place? I'm guessing it was because he beat the number 1 guy at his weight.
DeGale and Frampton haven't matched or bettered that.
They should still be behind him imo...
When Fury comes back then he can reclaim the top spot.

He deserves to start dropping now though.
I would remove him due to inactivity then rather than drop him down the rankings for the same reason.
However, it is your list Horse. I have total faith you will act fairly and responsibly...

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 01 Feb 2017, 16:09
by davie
Horse wrote: Who should have been No. 1?
.

Well given Degale and Frampton just leapfrogged him despite not winning then either of them could have been no1 last month, or the month before that. Fury has been inactive for a while.

Despite their recent results, Frampton, Degale and Brook are the 3 beat active fighters in Britain just now, which is why you're list is starting to look that bit better

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 02 Feb 2017, 07:04
by Horse
Switch hitter wrote:Khan way too high.....
Those below him should fight more often and against better opposition.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 02 Feb 2017, 07:13
by Horse
handsofstone wrote:Martin Murray too low and Andy Lee was born in London
I like Martin Murray as much as the next guy, but he's got to get another good result before he can start to climb the rankings again.

I should take the "(Irish)" label away from Andy Lee then?

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 02 Feb 2017, 07:31
by Horse
freddydoesdallas wrote:No hughie fury or kid galahad. Clear bias against accidental drug cheats
Neither currently deserves a place.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 02 Feb 2017, 07:53
by freddydoesdallas
Horse wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:No hughie fury or kid galahad. Clear bias against accidental drug cheats
Neither currently deserves a place.
Because of drugs or in ring performance. It's not up to you to judge morality Horse

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 02 Feb 2017, 09:52
by Ian1973
If Fury is still eligible for the list then he should still be number one. How can he be overtaken by someone that has just lost and another that gained a draw and got smashed up?

Doesn't make sense Horse either leave Tyson in or take him out but I don't see how he can fall two places on the back of no-one winning to leapfrog him.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 02 Feb 2017, 09:59
by Switch hitter
Horse wrote:
Switch hitter wrote:Khan way too high.....
Those below him should fight more often and against better opposition.
Not really had a worthwhile win for years

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 03 Feb 2017, 07:28
by Horse
EdwinValero wrote:Would personally swap Burns and Quigg round and Khan is too high.

But its all a game of opinions i suppose :TU:
Burns almost lost his last fight, so I think that he's about as high as he can be at the moment.

Khan should be dropping soon.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 03 Feb 2017, 07:29
by Horse
wesshaw1985 wrote:I would remove him due to inactivity then rather than drop him down the rankings for the same reason.
However, it is your list Horse. I have total faith you will act fairly and responsibly...
Thank you.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 03 Feb 2017, 07:33
by Horse
davie wrote:Well given Degale and Frampton just leapfrogged him despite not winning then either of them could have been no1 last month, or the month before that. Fury has been inactive for a while.
I only move fighters after they've fought.

DeGale had last fought in April and Frampton had last fought in July.

Fury hadn't been that inactive at that time and neither deserved the top spot back then.
davie wrote:Despite their recent results, Frampton, Degale and Brook are the 3 beat active fighters in Britain just now, which is why you're list is starting to look that bit better
Brook is nowhere near the other two.

Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2017

Posted: 03 Feb 2017, 07:34
by Horse
freddydoesdallas wrote:Because of drugs or in ring performance. It's not up to you to judge morality Horse
Their records are not good enough.