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If the fight were made today, who wins?

From what I've seen of Spence, he really does look good and I'd fancy him to beat Brook. But I know a few people believe his chin might be a bit suspect, so you never know...

If Brook is fit and strong at 147 it's a really good fight and a toss up but if he's not on it and has struggled then Spence for me.

Spence has got the hunger and momentum going for him also. Brook will be coming back after his first defeat and a bruising one at that! Not an ideal time to be fighting someone like Spence.

Brook - chin was tested by GGG and he took the shots so no questions there just the weight really but knowing him and his nutritionist it can be done will just need a slightly longer camp.

If he makes the weight comfortably and is not damaged by the GGG defeat I'd take Brook.

Both are heavy handed without being devastating, both are talented world level operators. Brooks experience gives him the edge for me and we know how he deals with adversity, I'm not sure we have any evidence of that from Spence yet (that's not to say he will simply crumble of course)

I'm about 70/30 Brook I think but it would be a good competitive fight and should be fairly entertaining

I think Brook should def take this, I think it will be close either way, if he nicks it he is in good position for a big fight with either Pacquaio or the winner of Garcia / Thurman, if he loses on points (or even if gets stopped which I dont think he will) then he can blame it on the weight and there will be plenty of big fights for him at light middle

IBF: Spence gets IBF Title shot with or without Brook - http://www.BS.com/ibf-errol-sp ... ok--113391

Bramhall Lane a potential venue - http://www.BS.com/kell-brook-v ... ld--113422

Brook Spence is on - http://www.BS.com/brook-spence ... ed--113580

Eddie Hearn ‏@EddieHearn - 49 minutes ago
Terms agreed for @SpecialKBrook v @ErrolSpenceJr -full announcement coming soon -fight will take place in the UK. Best fight in the division

wesshaw1985 wrote:Brook Spence is on - http://www.BS.com/brook-spence ... ed--113580

Eddie Hearn ‏@EddieHearn - 49 minutes ago
Terms agreed for @SpecialKBrook v @ErrolSpenceJr -full announcement coming soon -fight will take place in the UK. Best fight in the division

Bit surprised on the 20th of may date that article mentions. Sheff utd flying currently in the league and so likely will get automatic promotion but should things go tits up that's the date for the playoff final for league 1 I think.

mfc_se15 wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:Brook Spence is on - http://www.BS.com/brook-spence ... ed--113580

Eddie Hearn ‏@EddieHearn - 49 minutes ago
Terms agreed for @SpecialKBrook v @ErrolSpenceJr -full announcement coming soon -fight will take place in the UK. Best fight in the division

Bit surprised on the 20th of may date that article mentions. Sheff utd flying currently in the league and so likely will get automatic promotion but should things go tits up that's the date for the playoff final for league 1 I think.

think it's more likely to be May 27th or June 3rd

davie wrote:If he makes the weight comfortably and is not damaged by the GGG defeat I'd take Brook.

Both are heavy handed without being devastating, both are talented world level operators. Brooks experience gives him the edge for me and we know how he deals with adversity, I'm not sure we have any evidence of that from Spence yet (that's not to say he will simply crumble of course)

I'm about 70/30 Brook I think but it would be a good competitive fight and should be fairly entertaining

Genuine question, is how he deals with adversity a positive for you? I'm not sure it is for me. He didn't really know what to do against Carson Jones when things were going wrong (and he was cut if i remember rightly) and against GGG, he was constantly pawing at his own eye and it completely distracted him.

freddydoesdallas wrote:

davie wrote:If he makes the weight comfortably and is not damaged by the GGG defeat I'd take Brook.

Both are heavy handed without being devastating, both are talented world level operators. Brooks experience gives him the edge for me and we know how he deals with adversity, I'm not sure we have any evidence of that from Spence yet (that's not to say he will simply crumble of course)

I'm about 70/30 Brook I think but it would be a good competitive fight and should be fairly entertaining

Genuine question, is how he deals with adversity a positive for you? I'm not sure it is for me. He didn't really know what to do against Carson Jones when things were going wrong (and he was cut if i remember rightly) and against GGG, he was constantly pawing at his own eye and it completely distracted him.

My memory isn't too sharp, did he not just run out of steam against Jones, that wasnpoor preparation more than anything surely and the guy looks like someone that trains like a beast now.

As for GGG, you can't criticise him for that. Pawing at his eye ffs. The man had his eye socket broken and not only chose to battle on against one of the heaviest handed punchers in the game, he kept on fighting and taking it too GGG, the mans heart is not in question when shit goes south.

Spence would be one of the best americans to come over here. Best since Dirrell and probably much better than Dirrell. He was giving a hiding to Mayweather in sparring.

davie wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:

davie wrote:If he makes the weight comfortably and is not damaged by the GGG defeat I'd take Brook.

Both are heavy handed without being devastating, both are talented world level operators. Brooks experience gives him the edge for me and we know how he deals with adversity, I'm not sure we have any evidence of that from Spence yet (that's not to say he will simply crumble of course)

I'm about 70/30 Brook I think but it would be a good competitive fight and should be fairly entertaining

Genuine question, is how he deals with adversity a positive for you? I'm not sure it is for me. He didn't really know what to do against Carson Jones when things were going wrong (and he was cut if i remember rightly) and against GGG, he was constantly pawing at his own eye and it completely distracted him.

My memory isn't too sharp, did he not just run out of steam against Jones, that wasnpoor preparation more than anything surely and the guy looks like someone that trains like a beast now.

As for GGG, you can't criticise him for that. Pawing at his eye ffs. The man had his eye socket broken and not only chose to battle on against one of the heaviest handed punchers in the game, he kept on fighting and taking it too GGG, the mans heart is not in question when poo goes south.

Yeah it may seem a bit harsh on the GGG criticism but it was more that he didn't seem to be able to think of a way out. He just carried on doing the same thing.

I'm not too sure about the Carson Jones one either but to me at the minute, i'm not sure if he deals with adversity well or poorly. There are a few unknowns with Brook

I favour Spence. He's still a bit wild and raw and punches from wide angles though.

Brook took a beating off GGG. Has he recovered fully?
How will the cut be at 147 since he last fought at 160 and struggled in fights before to get to 147.

Really good fight. Various variables make this hard to pick a winner.
Also you'd guess with the extra PPV money and the fact this doesn't make your average casual ejaculate over the sky remote control there should be a good undercard for this.

Spence comes with a lofty reputation - some of it from sparring rumours and also from what we have seen in fights.

That said, we haven’t seen him against anyone who looked in much danger of fighting back. Brook sure as hell will, especially in front of his home town fans. He might prove too strong over the distance for Spence, but this should be a great competitive fight.

Brook by late stoppage.

Loftgroov wrote:Spence comes with a lofty reputation - some of it from sparring rumours and also from what we have seen in fights.

That said, we haven’t seen him against anyone who looked in much danger of fighting back. Brook sure as hell will, especially in front of his home town fans. He might prove too strong over the distance for Spence, but this should be a great competitive fight.

Brook by late stoppage.

Yeah Spence looks the part but so did Jeff Lacy.

If he does the weight right.....Brook beats an overrated/unproven Spence.

TheLeprechaun wrote:

Loftgroov wrote:Spence comes with a lofty reputation - some of it from sparring rumours and also from what we have seen in fights.

That said, we haven’t seen him against anyone who looked in much danger of fighting back. Brook sure as hell will, especially in front of his home town fans. He might prove too strong over the distance for Spence, but this should be a great competitive fight.

Brook by late stoppage.

Yeah Spence looks the part but so did Jeff Lacy.

Yep... a good comparison. People have short memories, but there were plenty - including on this forum - that wouldn't countenance Jeff Lacy being beaten before he came over....

Spence could be superb but, lets face it, the Yanks do love to hype people up.

Loftgroov wrote:

TheLeprechaun wrote:

Loftgroov wrote:Spence comes with a lofty reputation - some of it from sparring rumours and also from what we have seen in fights.

That said, we haven’t seen him against anyone who looked in much danger of fighting back. Brook sure as hell will, especially in front of his home town fans. He might prove too strong over the distance for Spence, but this should be a great competitive fight.

Brook by late stoppage.

Yeah Spence looks the part but so did Jeff Lacy.

Yep... a good comparison. People have short memories, but there were plenty - including on this forum - that wouldn't countenance Jeff Lacy being beaten before he came over....

Spence could be superb but, lets face it, the Yanks do love to hype people up.

"The Yanks do love to hype people up?" Spence is still a virtual unknown in the USA. Until we see what Spence can do against the likes of Brook we really do not know what he can do. Comparing Brook to Calslappy is a real insult to the HOFer, given Brook's (veritable) murderer's row of opponents.

I have always liked Brook, and I have given a lot of credit for taking the 3G challenge, but what has he accomplished at welter beyond just getting by Porter? Spence has more to prove but Brook's legacy is not HOF material so far. He has almost as much to prove as Spence does.

Hopefully, the winner can get something done with the winner of Danny v Thurman. A loser's bracket in that regard would be great too.

The UK hypes boxers far more than the USA does these days, btw.

Tanzio wrote:

Loftgroov wrote:

TheLeprechaun wrote:
Yeah Spence looks the part but so did Jeff Lacy.

Yep... a good comparison. People have short memories, but there were plenty - including on this forum - that wouldn't countenance Jeff Lacy being beaten before he came over....

Spence could be superb but, lets face it, the Yanks do love to hype people up.

"The Yanks do love to hype people up?" Spence is still a virtual unknown in the USA. Until we see what Spence can do against the likes of Brook we really do not know what he can do. Comparing Brook to Calslappy is a real insult to the HOFer, given Brook's (veritable) murderer's row of opponents.

I have always liked Brook, and I have given a lot of credit for taking the 3G challenge, but what has he accomplished at welter beyond just getting by Porter? Spence has more to prove but Brook's legacy is not HOF material so far. He has almost as much to prove as Spence does.

Hopefully, the winner can get something done with the winner of Danny v Thurman. A loser's bracket in that regard would be great too.

The UK hypes boxers far more than the USA does these days, btw.

And yes, the UK press is always ready to declare greatness on a boxer way too soon

TheLeprechaun wrote:Spence would be one of the best americans to come over here. Best since Dirrell and probably much better than Dirrell. He was giving a hiding to Mayweather in sparring.

Think you're forgetting about Crawford

There is two ways this can go and it depends on how well Brook can make 147.

1. If he kills himself he will be knocked out
2. If he half kills himself he will last the distance