POVETKIN

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Re: POVETKIN

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So what? Every boxer will hire his own lab and do tests where???

At a time all Russian boxers tested in "independant" RUSADA and was clean as a whistle :OhYes:

Povetkin is finished in WBC, and I believe that all other ABC's will follow.

Riabinski can bring boxers (even good ones) to lose to Povetkin in Russia, for crazy money, making patriotic hoopla around it...casual Russian guys will "eat" this BS, but in the real boxing scene - it's over :salut:
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How many threads do we need on this subject?
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Now I'm curious what substances this lab will find in Wilder his body, I mean, we all know Wilder continually lies about just about everything, but can it be proven by a real lab that he's even using all kind of illegal PEDs as well?
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asdfjkl wrote:Now I'm curious what substances this lab will find in Wilder his body, I mean, we all know Wilder continually lies about just about everything, but can it be proven by a real lab that he's even using all kind of illegal PEDs as well?
Weren't you the idiot saying he was innocent until proven guilty?
Why the double standards?
Povetkin is innocent in your eyes with failed tests.
But Wilder is dirty having passed all tests?

Do you have an agenda or are you just a fucktatd?
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tiny_acres wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Now I'm curious what substances this lab will find in Wilder his body, I mean, we all know Wilder continually lies about just about everything, but can it be proven by a real lab that he's even using all kind of illegal PEDs as well?
Weren't you the idiot saying he was innocent until proven guilty?
Why the double standards?
Povetkin is innocent in your eyes with failed tests.
But Wilder is dirty having passed all tests?

Do you have an agenda or are you just a fucktatd?
Just ignore him
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tiny_acres wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Now I'm curious what substances this lab will find in Wilder his body, I mean, we all know Wilder continually lies about just about everything, but can it be proven by a real lab that he's even using all kind of illegal PEDs as well?
Weren't you the idiot saying he was innocent until proven guilty?
Why the double standards?
Povetkin is innocent in your eyes with failed tests.
But Wilder is dirty having passed all tests?

Do you have an agenda or are you just a fucktatd?
All other independant agencys can't find anything at all. It's still far more likely that Wada/Vada screwed up all over again. All other independant people and tests proof this time over time again and again. This could easely explain why Wilder passes all tests. On top of that, I can't remember Wilder being proven innocent at all and because of the double standard, Povetkin is in fact by far the most tested boxer in the entire world...
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... hell of a battleship ...
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bigman1968 wrote:So what? Every boxer will hire his own lab and do tests where???

At a time all Russian boxers tested in "independant" RUSADA and was clean as a whistle :OhYes:

Povetkin is finished in WBC, and I believe that all other ABC's will follow.

Riabinski can bring boxers (even good ones) to lose to Povetkin in Russia, for crazy money, making patriotic hoopla around it...casual Russian guys will "eat" this BS, but in the real boxing scene - it's over :salut:
America doesn't control World Boxing anymore... And it's about time you realize it... The WBC and VADA are doing everything in their power to destroy Eastern Europe as a World Boxing power...but it's not going to happen... Ryabinsky and Povetkin will win their lawsuits if they're fairly judged and the courts are not as corrupt as the WBC and VADA... Then maybe VADA and the WBC will be eliminated for good... It couldn't happen too soon for the health of Boxing as a global sport that's not controlled by Americans.
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Kalan wrote:
bigman1968 wrote:So what? Every boxer will hire his own lab and do tests where???

At a time all Russian boxers tested in "independant" RUSADA and was clean as a whistle :OhYes:

Povetkin is finished in WBC, and I believe that all other ABC's will follow.

Riabinski can bring boxers (even good ones) to lose to Povetkin in Russia, for crazy money, making patriotic hoopla around it...casual Russian guys will "eat" this BS, but in the real boxing scene - it's over :salut:
America doesn't control World Boxing anymore... And it's about time you realize it... The WBC and VADA are doing everything in their power to destroy Eastern Europe as a World Boxing power...but it's not going to happen... Ryabinsky and Povetkin will win their lawsuits if they're fairly judged and the courts are not as corrupt as the WBC and VADA... Then maybe VADA and the WBC will be eliminated for good... It couldn't happen too soon for the health of Boxing as a global sport that's not controlled by Americans.
Really? Why didn't Wlad and Kovalev fail drugs tests then?

Why is it just PEDvetkin?
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AGAIN...WHO GIVES AN FFFFFFFFFFFFF? POVETKIN ? REALLY? :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
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BitPlayer wrote:
Kalan wrote:
bigman1968 wrote:So what? Every boxer will hire his own lab and do tests where???

At a time all Russian boxers tested in "independant" RUSADA and was clean as a whistle :OhYes:

Povetkin is finished in WBC, and I believe that all other ABC's will follow.

Riabinski can bring boxers (even good ones) to lose to Povetkin in Russia, for crazy money, making patriotic hoopla around it...casual Russian guys will "eat" this BS, but in the real boxing scene - it's over :salut:
America doesn't control World Boxing anymore... And it's about time you realize it... The WBC and VADA are doing everything in their power to destroy Eastern Europe as a World Boxing power...but it's not going to happen... Ryabinsky and Povetkin will win their lawsuits if they're fairly judged and the courts are not as corrupt as the WBC and VADA... Then maybe VADA and the WBC will be eliminated for good... It couldn't happen too soon for the health of Boxing as a global sport that's not controlled by Americans.
Really? Why didn't Wlad and Kovalev fail drugs tests then?

Why is it just PEDvetkin?
I'm anxiously waiting on this response
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tiny_acres wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:
Kalan wrote:
America doesn't control World Boxing anymore... And it's about time you realize it... The WBC and VADA are doing everything in their power to destroy Eastern Europe as a World Boxing power...but it's not going to happen... Ryabinsky and Povetkin will win their lawsuits if they're fairly judged and the courts are not as corrupt as the WBC and VADA... Then maybe VADA and the WBC will be eliminated for good... It couldn't happen too soon for the health of Boxing as a global sport that's not controlled by Americans.
Really? Why didn't Wlad and Kovalev fail drugs tests then?

Why is it just PEDvetkin?
I'm anxiously waiting on this response
Because they thought he was better anyway? So they wanted that fight.
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Post by tiny_acres »

asdfjkl wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:
BitPlayer wrote: Really? Why didn't Wlad and Kovalev fail drugs tests then?

Why is it just PEDvetkin?
I'm anxiously waiting on this response
Because they thought he was better anyway? So they wanted that fight.
Your blind ignorance is pathetic
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Post by Baby Face Finster »

Let's all face facts. Povetkin was shit until he started taking peds. We all saw how horrible he looked against Huck. Right after that his physique started to change and all of a sudden he became a far better fighter. Sorry I don't believe for one second he wasn't taking something at that point. I hate Wilder but giving Povetkin a pass shows clear bias.
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What's the fascination with Povetkin all about? :zzz:
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BitPlayer wrote:
Kalan wrote:
bigman1968 wrote:So what? Every boxer will hire his own lab and do tests where???

At a time all Russian boxers tested in "independant" RUSADA and was clean as a whistle :OhYes:

Povetkin is finished in WBC, and I believe that all other ABC's will follow.

Riabinski can bring boxers (even good ones) to lose to Povetkin in Russia, for crazy money, making patriotic hoopla around it...casual Russian guys will "eat" this BS, but in the real boxing scene - it's over :salut:
America doesn't control World Boxing anymore... And it's about time you realize it... The WBC and VADA are doing everything in their power to destroy Eastern Europe as a World Boxing power...but it's not going to happen... Ryabinsky and Povetkin will win their lawsuits if they're fairly judged and the courts are not as corrupt as the WBC and VADA... Then maybe VADA and the WBC will be eliminated for good... It couldn't happen too soon for the health of Boxing as a global sport that's not controlled by Americans.
Really? Why didn't Wlad and Kovalev fail drugs tests then?

Why is it just PEDvetkin?
I am not saying that it was the case. I am just saying that Haymon wants to protect Wilder from Povetkin and there is a possibility that he may have somebody at VADA he can influence.
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BitPlayer wrote:
Kalan wrote:
bigman1968 wrote:So what? Every boxer will hire his own lab and do tests where???

At a time all Russian boxers tested in "independant" RUSADA and was clean as a whistle :OhYes:

Povetkin is finished in WBC, and I believe that all other ABC's will follow.

Riabinski can bring boxers (even good ones) to lose to Povetkin in Russia, for crazy money, making patriotic hoopla around it...casual Russian guys will "eat" this BS, but in the real boxing scene - it's over :salut:
America doesn't control World Boxing anymore... And it's about time you realize it... The WBC and VADA are doing everything in their power to destroy Eastern Europe as a World Boxing power...but it's not going to happen... Ryabinsky and Povetkin will win their lawsuits if they're fairly judged and the courts are not as corrupt as the WBC and VADA... Then maybe VADA and the WBC will be eliminated for good... It couldn't happen too soon for the health of Boxing as a global sport that's not controlled by Americans.
Really? Why didn't Wlad and Kovalev fail drugs tests then?

Why is it just PEDvetkin?
Because VADA cannot accuse every innocent fighter of PED use and continue to exist as a drug enforcement agency... They pick their spots carefully... This was done to destroy a Russian Billionaire who outbid Americans for Heavyweight Championship Fights... Destroy Russia as a venue or Heavyweight Championship Fights... and retain the only American Heavyweight Champion in many years..

Historically there's been 10 times as many Americans boxers than Russian boxers who have tested positive.
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Kalan wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:
Kalan wrote:
America doesn't control World Boxing anymore... And it's about time you realize it... The WBC and VADA are doing everything in their power to destroy Eastern Europe as a World Boxing power...but it's not going to happen... Ryabinsky and Povetkin will win their lawsuits if they're fairly judged and the courts are not as corrupt as the WBC and VADA... Then maybe VADA and the WBC will be eliminated for good... It couldn't happen too soon for the health of Boxing as a global sport that's not controlled by Americans.
Really? Why didn't Wlad and Kovalev fail drugs tests then?

Why is it just PEDvetkin?
Because VADA cannot accuse every innocent fighter of PED use and continue to exist as a drug enforcement agency... They pick their spots carefully... This was done to destroy a Russian Billionaire who outbid Americans for Heavyweight Championship Fights... Destroy Russia as a venue or Heavyweight Championship Fights... and retain the only American Heavyweight Champion in many years..

Historically there's been 10 times as many Americans boxers than Russian boxers who have tested positive.
So clearly then there's been a large anti-AMerican conspiracy to try and knock them off the top.
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BitPlayer wrote:
Kalan wrote:
BitPlayer wrote: Really? Why didn't Wlad and Kovalev fail drugs tests then?

Why is it just PEDvetkin?
Because VADA cannot accuse every innocent fighter of PED use and continue to exist as a drug enforcement agency... They pick their spots carefully... This was done to destroy a Russian Billionaire who outbid Americans for Heavyweight Championship Fights... Destroy Russia as a venue or Heavyweight Championship Fights... and retain the only American Heavyweight Champion in many years..

Historically there's been 10 times as many Americans boxers than Russian boxers who have tested positive.
So clearly then there's been a large anti-AMerican conspiracy to try and knock them off the top.
Indubitably
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North Americans generally get off with very little publicity and a slap on the wrist.. fines and "voluntary contributions" are extorted from them, but the fights go on and little is said.. That because the testers are North Americans and they're cheating.. When overseas boxers like Povetkin are tested they try to finagle a positive test out of a test that passed -- and they let the publicity fly like a MF to destroy him and any chance he has of fighting for a world title ever again.
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If you wanted to ruin Povetkin why only make him fail one test? WHy not say he tested positive for a lab's worth of PEDs Teper style? Maybe plant some stuff on him?
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Because that wouldn't be very smart or believable...

If you're clever, you find a PED where there's no suggested minimum concentration and suggest that he had 100th of a nonogram of that in his system.. You might find that small amount on only 1 test out of a hundred, so how can anybody prove you lied??? That amount couldn't possibly benefit anyone, but that's not what your after.. Like the Meldonium test nobody is asking if he passed the test -- which Povetkin passed easily -- they just want to hear that he was positive for a minute trace amount ... and they'll run with the story like he's a criminal, because he's a Russian.
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They did the same thing to Sharapova in tennis - yes there is an anti Russian agenda - Look at the body of Serena - wake up
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montrealsuper wrote:They did the same thing to Sharapova in tennis - yes there is an anti Russian agenda - Look at the body of Serena - wake up
Serena takes PEDs "legally" - she has a registered medical condition "requiring" those. Russians are too lazy or don't have necessary connections to get such exempts.
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