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Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Feb 2017, 15:05
by diddy
I've seen very little of Fury but I'm not particularly impressed. I dont like his chances of walking out of Australia with a decision. Odds on this are pretty low. Parker is -165. The question is - how does Fury compare to Takam. Is he better? I dont think he is.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Feb 2017, 15:45
by Enlightened-One
Hughie Fury is underrated. He hasn’t got the most aesthetically-pleasing style, but he’s incredibly awkward… and very effective. His resume might be fairly poor, but back in 2013, he was regularly sparring against the likes of Steve Cunningham, Eddie Chambers and Tyson Fury. So he may an extra gear that we’ve yet to see.

That being said, he competes at a sedate pace, he doesn’t appear to be heavy-handed and we truly don’t know if he can take a punch.

Whilst I believe that Joseph Parker deserves to be considered as a 60/40 betting favourite (as per stats supplied by Oddschecker), I wouldn’t be surprised to see Hughie Fury him score an upset and walk away from New Zealand as the new WBO champion.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Feb 2017, 16:00
by LasPalmas
I don't think this will happen. So close to the fight and still no venue? I think it will fall apart as no one seems interested. I like the furys, but they seem to have a habit of not closing the deal, maybe it's time to say adiós to Hennessy. That being said, I think Hughie would win.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Feb 2017, 16:07
by Enlightened-One
The British media are reporting that the Parker-Fury fight will take place on the 1st April in Aukland, New Zealand. Hughie seemed to confirm this via a tweet a few days ago.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Feb 2017, 16:33
by Kalan
Parker should win... If he can finagle wins over Takam and Ruiz in New Zealand (He didn't outscore them)... Why not Hughie Fury???

Fury has better athletic talent... Longer reach and better height... He's faster... Parker has better punching power... People picking Fury to win might think it'll be like Young vs Foreman and Hughie will pepper the sh!t out of Parker.. If he had a jab, footwork, and a skilled right counter he might.. He doesn't.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Feb 2017, 16:49
by crusader
Parker has faster hands than Hughie

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Feb 2017, 16:57
by Kalan
You have to work on skills every day in the gym, even if you have raw ability, height, weight, and reach... You can't be a pro for 4 years and fight 20 sucky Heavyweights, and then get lured into a World Title Fight early -- because you're the easiest looking guy with an undefeated record who people have heard of.. Hughie could be way ahead of where he is, with 4 years of experience, if he were more consistent and had a passion for the sport..

If Hughie gets out of this fight without being hurt, he'll still be on a level where he has to fight other top Heavyweights before he's ready.. Haye will want him.. Ortiz will want him.. Wilder will want him.. Everybody wants a big, tall, unfinished, impressive looking opponent you can look really good against.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Feb 2017, 17:11
by BitPlayer
Kalan wrote:You have to work on skills every day in the gym, even if you have raw ability, height, weight, and reach... You can't be a pro for 4 years and fight 20 sucky Heavyweights, and then get lured into a World Title Fight early -- because you're the easiest looking guy with an undefeated record who people have heard of.. Hughie could be way ahead of where he is, with 4 years of experience, if he were more consistent and had a passion for the sport..

If Hughie gets out of this fight without being hurt, he'll still be on a level where he has to fight other top Heavyweights before he's ready.. Haye will want him.. Ortiz will want him.. Wilder will want him.. Everybody wants a big, tall, unfinished, impressive looking opponent you can look really good against.
You did get the memo that he's only 22 and has been plagued with health issues didn't you? All the passon in the world wouldn't help that.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Feb 2017, 19:12
by Kalan
Well, no wonder Hughie doesn't look that good from where he started at 18 -- where he looked like he would probably get it going.

Health issues. and being 22 years old with 20 pro fights??? That gives you all the more reasons to take your time -- and not rush into a World Title shot and possibly get hurt.. So you get the doctors and take care of the health issues.. The Klitschko's had massive amateur backgrounds and tons of pro fights and still had various problems... Wladimir had technical problems and Vitali's legs were screwed.. You keep going until everything is good.. You don't get greedy for the buck.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Feb 2017, 21:07
by asdfjkl
Hughie has trained and sparred a lot in the Netherlands and because of that has a massive advantage to the rest of the world, just like Tyson Fury, when it comes to boxing and kickboxing. The Netherlands have the best heavyweight kickboxers on the world, by distance and for several generations by now, winning nearly every world championship in the past 30 years.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 21 Feb 2017, 21:40
by ClivePatrickLyons
I was hoping for this fight Parker wins by late TKO :TU:

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 22 Feb 2017, 02:36
by BillW
asdfjkl wrote:Hughie has trained and sparred a lot in the Netherlands and because of that has a massive advantage to the rest of the world, just like Tyson Fury, when it comes to boxing and kickboxing. The Netherlands have the best heavyweight kickboxers on the world, by distance and for several generations by now, winning nearly every world championship in the past 30 years.
Joseph Parker lives and trains in Las Vegas which I think would be a far better place, boxing-wise, than the Netherlands.
Not much call for kickboxing skills in a heavyweight championship bout.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 22 Feb 2017, 04:06
by Kalan
Kickboxing is really difficult to master, but when you get into it it's addictive.. Vitali Klitschko loved kickboxing. But he wrecked his legs and turned to Boxing. He never would have been world famous as a kickboxer. He would have been a better boxer had he not done it at all.

One of the toughest sports in the world is MMA. You need to master so many submission holds, escapes, blows with the hands, elbows, knees, shins, feet, take downs, choke-outs, and defenses that it takes a lot of time. Boxing is such a more basic and cleaner sport. The thing that screws it up are the lack of enforcement of the rules. Too much head leveraging, butting, holding, and wrestling means the referees get involved too much. I love a boxing match where the action is continuous and the referee isn't touching, pulling, pushing, and separating the boxers 15 times a round. I hate fights like Guerrero-Berto where the referee just keeps warning, warning warning, and warning and never takes a point for 100's of fouls.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 22 Feb 2017, 05:11
by Lennox
I think Fury can only win by knock out but I expect Parker to win fairly easily.

Seen Hughie a few times and I can't see much to make me think he can beat anyone in the top 15/20. Maybe there is more hidden, you never really know with an unbeaten fighter, though the fact the highest ranked opponent he has beaten was 73 and he has only beaten 4 top 100 opponents I am more likely believe my own statistics that he is really not much better and that is why his team have never tested him at the top 30 level.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 22 Feb 2017, 05:32
by Lennox
I think Fury can only win by knock out but I expect Parker to win fairly easily.

Seen Hughie a few times and I can't see much to make me think he can beat anyone in the top 15/20. Maybe there is more hidden, you never really know with an unbeaten fighter, though the fact the highest ranked opponent he has beaten was 73 and he has only beaten 4 top 100 opponents I am more likely believe my own statistics that he is really not much better and that is why his team have never tested him at the top 30 level.

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 22 Feb 2017, 09:17
by AnthonyCrollaArmy
It will be a slug war of a fight, but I think it will be a 7-5 win to Parker. Hopefully Hughie can bring the belts home though

Re: Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury

Posted: 22 Feb 2017, 12:37
by asdfjkl
BillW wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Hughie has trained and sparred a lot in the Netherlands and because of that has a massive advantage to the rest of the world, just like Tyson Fury, when it comes to boxing and kickboxing. The Netherlands have the best heavyweight kickboxers on the world, by distance and for several generations by now, winning nearly every world championship in the past 30 years.
Joseph Parker lives and trains in Las Vegas which I think would be a far better place, boxing-wise, than the Netherlands.
Not much call for kickboxing skills in a heavyweight championship bout.
I don't think it will take over 30 years before the Dutch will take over actually. The only problem at this moment is that the sport isn't popular over there and the immigration, which is massive. They are bigger and stronger compared to other nations.
Also notice that most top contenders, especially in the past, have a kickboxing history, the Klitschko's, Povetkin, the Fury's are often sparring with them. Spong, name them.