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"Al Haymon Willing To Work With Any Boxing Promoter"

Vice President of Communications at PBC - Tim Smith.

“Al's never said he's not going to do any business with anybody because that would bring harm to his clients. Why would he do that?Why would he harm his clients? He's supposed to be working in their best financial interest. So you can't close off a door and say your not going to work with anybody.”

Thoughts?

Translation: Willing to work with any promoter who has a fighter I'm confident my guy can beat.

Words are worth nothing. Actions is what matters and so far we mainly see his top fighters not fighting on HBO.

boxing_rocks wrote:Words are worth nothing. Actions is what matters and so far we mainly see his top fighters not fighting on HBO.

Hardly anybody fights on HBO anymore.

gilgamesh wrote:Translation: Willing to work with any promoter who has a fighter I'm confident my guy can beat.

gilgamesh wrote:Translation: Willing to work with any promoter who has a fighter I'm confident my guy can beat.

boxing_rocks wrote:Words are worth nothing. Actions is what matters and so far we mainly see his top fighters not fighting on HBO.

We’ve recently seen Dominic Wade, Amir Khan, Roman Martinez, Oscar Escandon and Floyd Mayweather Jr have their fights televised by HBO. Danny Jacobs and Chavez Jr. will be fighting on HBO imminently. All of these guys are Haymon fighters.

We know for certain that HBO refused to do business directly with Haymon from 2013, as orchestrated by Ken Hershman.

When the Golden Boy lawsuit got dismissed, it was proven that GBP were the ones that often prevented bouts from taking place between their stable and Haymon’s men (since Oscar seems committed to HBO). The U.S. District Judge John F. Walter of the Court of Central California actually confirmed this.

The Haymon-advised Adonis Stevenson had committed himself to compete on HBO had Kathy Duva participated and won the WBC’s purse bid for the Kovalev fight, but Main Events had to withdraw their man from consideration because of HBO’s exclusive contract with the Russian.

We also know for certain that when Pacquiao was still tied to his contract with HBO, Haymon allowed Bob Arum to negotiate terms with anyone in his stable. Top Rank subsequently claimed that the PBC fighters were overpaid, so they ultimately went elsewhere.

Does anyone honestly believe that any of the above points I’ve made are incorrect?

I don't recall ever seeing Oscar Escandon fight on HBO

gilgamesh wrote:I don't recall ever seeing Oscar Escandon fight on HBO

Oscar Escandon fought Robinson Castellanos on the undercard of the HBO televised Ortiz-Thompson main event.

I don't remember seeing that I don't guess, but I'll take your word for it. Seeing Oscar Escandon on TV pisses me off when you hear nothing of Tyson Cave who shut him out when they fought and got robbed about as blatantly as you can rob a guy.

gilgamesh wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Words are worth nothing. Actions is what matters and so far we mainly see his top fighters not fighting on HBO.

Hardly anybody fights on HBO anymore.

Top p4p guys do fight on HBO: Golovkin, Gonzalez, Crawford, Lomachenko, Kovalev, Ward, Usyk. PPV stars like Pac, Canelo, Cotto do too.

boxing_rocks wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Words are worth nothing. Actions is what matters and so far we mainly see his top fighters not fighting on HBO.

Hardly anybody fights on HBO anymore.

Top p4p guys do fight on HBO: Golovkin, Gonzalez, Crawford, Lomachenko, Kovalev, Ward, Usyk. PPV stars like Pac, Canelo, Cotto do too.

Once every 2 months or so...on PPV. I dropped HBO at the end of January because they just don't show enough Boxing for me, and the amount they do show I can just watch for free online. Boxing is the only reason I had HBO and since they've made it such a low priority for their network I've made HBO not a priority in my household.

Haymon promoted a fight with Duva after being sued by her. I think he would work with Arum as he did for Pac-Mayweather but it would be in those cases where there was a big fight on the table.

Hbo's new regime said they would work with any promoter and there are a few Haymon fighters appearing on the network, but Haymon feels a loyalty toward Showtime for backing him the last few years. Doubtful you would see many PBC fighters on HBO at one time unless they threw a boatload of money at him which they clearly don't have.

gilgamesh wrote:Seeing Oscar Escandon on TV pisses me off when you hear nothing of Tyson Cave who shut him out when they fought and got robbed about as blatantly as you can rob a guy.

Oh boy, I had almost purged that from my memory, until now...

The way this is worded doesn't suggest to me that he's going to be doing more business with other promoters than he had been doing in the recent past. It'd be different if he said "I want to start working with other promoters more than I had been."

Lackeos wrote:The way this is worded doesn't suggest to me that he's going to be doing more business with other promoters than he had been doing in the recent past. It'd be different if he said "I want to start working with other promoters more than I had been."

Which promoters hasn't he worked with in recent memory?

I read the quote 5 times and i still don't understand what the dude is trying to say. And this is the VP? No wonder why it's PBC is on life support.

gilgamesh wrote:Translation: Willing to work with any promoter who has a fighter I'm confident my guy can beat.

So ... explain GGG VS Jacobs.

Cuz everybody seems to think GGG is a solid favorite.

I missed the blind Haymon hate.

Enlightened-One wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Translation: Willing to work with any promoter who has a fighter I'm confident my guy can beat.

boxing_rocks wrote:Words are worth nothing. Actions is what matters and so far we mainly see his top fighters not fighting on HBO.

We’ve recently seen Dominic Wade, Amir Khan, Roman Martinez, Oscar Escandon and Floyd Mayweather Jr have their fights televised by HBO. Danny Jacobs and Chavez Jr. will be fighting on HBO imminently. All of these guys are Haymon fighters.

We know for certain that HBO refused to do business directly with Haymon from 2013, as orchestrated by Ken Hershman.

When the Golden Boy lawsuit got dismissed, it was proven that GBP were the ones that often prevented bouts from taking place between their stable and Haymon’s men (since Oscar seems committed to HBO). The U.S. District Judge John F. Walter of the Court of Central California actually confirmed this.

The Haymon-advised Adonis Stevenson had committed himself to compete on HBO had Kathy Duva participated and won the WBC’s purse bid for the Kovalev fight, but Main Events had to withdraw their man from consideration because of HBO’s exclusive contract with the Russian.

We also know for certain that when Pacquiao was still tied to his contract with HBO, Haymon allowed Bob Arum to negotiate terms with anyone in his stable. Top Rank subsequently claimed that the PBC fighters were overpaid, so they ultimately went elsewhere.

Does anyone honestly believe that any of the above points I’ve made are incorrect?

Yes it's incorrect... They tried their best to get a Chickenson fight... and HBO is willing to work with anyone... They have in the past.

Kalan wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Translation: Willing to work with any promoter who has a fighter I'm confident my guy can beat.

boxing_rocks wrote:Words are worth nothing. Actions is what matters and so far we mainly see his top fighters not fighting on HBO.

We’ve recently seen Dominic Wade, Amir Khan, Roman Martinez, Oscar Escandon and Floyd Mayweather Jr have their fights televised by HBO. Danny Jacobs and Chavez Jr. will be fighting on HBO imminently. All of these guys are Haymon fighters.

We know for certain that HBO refused to do business directly with Haymon from 2013, as orchestrated by Ken Hershman.

When the Golden Boy lawsuit got dismissed, it was proven that GBP were the ones that often prevented bouts from taking place between their stable and Haymon’s men (since Oscar seems committed to HBO). The U.S. District Judge John F. Walter of the Court of Central California actually confirmed this.

The Haymon-advised Adonis Stevenson had committed himself to compete on HBO had Kathy Duva participated and won the WBC’s purse bid for the Kovalev fight, but Main Events had to withdraw their man from consideration because of HBO’s exclusive contract with the Russian.

We also know for certain that when Pacquiao was still tied to his contract with HBO, Haymon allowed Bob Arum to negotiate terms with anyone in his stable. Top Rank subsequently claimed that the PBC fighters were overpaid, so they ultimately went elsewhere.

Does anyone honestly believe that any of the above points I’ve made are incorrect?

Yes it's incorrect... They tried their best to get a Chickenson fight... and HBO is willing to work with anyone... They have in the past.

What I said about Sergey Kovalev's withdrawl from the purse bid process for Adonis Stevenson's WBC title is correct and has been officially confirmed by GYM, Main Events and also the WBC. This is common knowledge to those that follow the sport.

I would advise you to research the accuracy of your claims before attempting to contradict someone that simply described well-documented events that actually occurred in the real world.

gilgamesh wrote:Translation: Willing to work with any promoter who has a fighter I'm confident my guy can beat.