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Mollo - Zimnoch 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoY5GfpyPMs

Zimnoch lost first fight only because of referee mistake. Mollo is done, if he showed up well Andrzej Wasilewski (promoter from Poland) wanted to sign him to his team to test Polish fighters but it is not the case now i believe

Huh? What referee mistake? Mollo KO'd him and no mistake. Mollo looked like Superman in the first fight. Did he forget to eat his spinach or something in his next two fights?

x2x wrote:Huh? What referee mistake? Mollo KO'd him and no mistake. Mollo looked like Superman in the first fight. Did he forget to eat his spinach or something in his next two fights?

Zimnoch got punched and rocked after 'break' command so referee should stop the fight to give Zimnoch some time instead he just said them to box

spzilka next ?

funso banjo baby wrote:spzilka next ?

Szpilka says he will fight april vs Kownacki in NY then he wants Breazeale if not then Zimnoch

x2x wrote:Huh? What referee mistake? Mollo KO'd him and no mistake. Mollo looked like Superman in the first fight. Did he forget to eat his spinach or something in his next two fights?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IXBLMltFi4&t=677s

watch from 9:35

Dag - The ref had a little bit of trouble breaking them apart in the heat of the exchange, no more than is usual. But that's not when Zimnoch got rocked. He got rocked after they separated and then came back together again.

funso banjo baby wrote:spzilka next ?

I think so.

Mollo throws a punch as the ref says break, then immediately throws another punch after that which clearly jars Zimnoch. Zimnoch looks weary as they are separated, and then is dropped almost as soon as the action resumes.

IMO he should've been given time to recover.

x2x wrote:Dag - The ref had a little bit of trouble breaking them apart in the heat of the exchange, no more than is usual. But that's not when Zimnoch got rocked. He got rocked after they separated and then came back together again.

i saw the fight live from the venue and it looked like he got hurt after that punch thats why i got opinion like this. still i wouldnt be surprised if Mollo KO's Zimnoch anyway, i thought Mike will KO Zimnoch again even with no referee help/mistakes etc. so i was really shocked that Mike lost the rematch because Zimnoch is not really a good fighter he got popular in Poland only because of his issues with Szpilka

I've always liked Mollo, he's a tough guy and very game. Reminds me of Brian Minto and Vinny Maddalone. I don't know much about Zimnoch, only that Mollo I was his only blemish. Does he have anything for the Euro or World scene? It doesn't look like it from either of the fights I've seen...

punchoutsb wrote:I've always liked Mollo, he's a tough guy and very game. Reminds me of Brian Minto and Vinny Maddalone. I don't know much about Zimnoch, only that Mollo I was his only blemish. Does he have anything for the Euro or World scene? It doesn't look like it from either of the fights I've seen...

he beat Wilder in amateurs but he had a lot of injuries when turned pro, was almost a no-name before his incident with Szpilka, now he lifes and trains in London with Richard Williams and maybe he improved a little bit but i dont expect him nothing more than top 30 at best

dagilechia wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:I've always liked Mollo, he's a tough guy and very game. Reminds me of Brian Minto and Vinny Maddalone. I don't know much about Zimnoch, only that Mollo I was his only blemish. Does he have anything for the Euro or World scene? It doesn't look like it from either of the fights I've seen...

he beat Wilder in amateurs but he had a lot of injuries when turned pro, was almost a no-name before his incident with Szpilka, now he lifes and trains in London with Richard Williams and maybe he improved a little bit but i dont expect him nothing more than top 30 at best

Well if he gets close to top 30 he can forget about fighting Wilder in the pros; he'd be too highly ranked for that.

Thanks for the info!

punchoutsb wrote:

dagilechia wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:I've always liked Mollo, he's a tough guy and very game. Reminds me of Brian Minto and Vinny Maddalone. I don't know much about Zimnoch, only that Mollo I was his only blemish. Does he have anything for the Euro or World scene? It doesn't look like it from either of the fights I've seen...

he beat Wilder in amateurs but he had a lot of injuries when turned pro, was almost a no-name before his incident with Szpilka, now he lifes and trains in London with Richard Williams and maybe he improved a little bit but i dont expect him nothing more than top 30 at best

Well if he gets close to top 30 he can forget about fighting Wilder in the pros; he'd be too highly ranked for that.

Thanks for the info!

heh thats true about Wilder, Zimnoch has to stay on the same level with Wawrzyk but just dont use PEDs and he will get his shot maybe

Zimnoch just doesn't have a good chin or the D to protect it. But i've seen him time some nasty skillful uppercuts... He can be passive and got dropped in victories vs limited opposition... But when he lets his hands go, he shows talent and power

crusader wrote:Mollo throws a punch as the ref says break, then immediately throws another punch after that which clearly jars Zimnoch. Zimnoch looks weary as they are separated, and then is dropped almost as soon as the action resumes.

IMO he should've been given time to recover.

Zimnoch's trainer was complaining about that after the fight and Mollo responded and said he didn't do anything deliberate and was just in punching mode. I didn't see pick up on that.

Mollo hadn't fought for 2 1/2 years before the first Zimnoch fight, since his second fight with Szpilka. During that time he put on 16 pounds of muscle and he looked so great I said wow he's going right to the top.

dagilechia wrote: heh thats true about Wilder, Zimnoch has to stay on the same level with Wawrzyk but just dont use PEDs and he will get his shot maybe

Stay the hell away from Doc Goodman and her Mafia NeVADA drug testing racket you mean - because if an outsider - Povetkin! - presents a threat to their chosen few the bitch will plant drugs on you.

punchoutsb wrote:
Well if he gets close to top 30 he can forget about fighting Wilder in the pros; he'd be too highly ranked for that.

Thanks for the info!

Ha ha too true.

dagilechia wrote:

x2x wrote:Dag - The ref had a little bit of trouble breaking them apart in the heat of the exchange, no more than is usual. But that's not when Zimnoch got rocked. He got rocked after they separated and then came back together again.

i saw the fight live from the venue and it looked like he got hurt after that punch thats why i got opinion like this. still i wouldnt be surprised if Mollo KO's Zimnoch anyway, i thought Mike will KO Zimnoch again even with no referee help/mistakes etc. so i was really shocked that Mike lost the rematch because Zimnoch is not really a good fighter he got popular in Poland only because of his issues with Szpilka

What issues with Szpilka? They were talking about him fighting Szpilka next. Maybe there should be a third fight with Mollo, though. Each won their fight convincingly.

dagilechia wrote: he beat Wilder in amateurs but he had a lot of injuries when turned pro, was almost a no-name before his incident with Szpilka, now he lifes and trains in London with Richard Williams and maybe he improved a little bit but i dont expect him nothing more than top 30 at best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2QjTroBo4U

punchoutsb wrote:I've always liked Mollo, he's a tough guy and very game. Reminds me of Brian Minto and Vinny Maddalone. I don't know much about Zimnoch, only that Mollo I was his only blemish. Does he have anything for the Euro or World scene? It doesn't look like it from either of the fights I've seen...

Mollo is a good guy. He has a full time job in construction. He's a long time friend of the Marciano family.

x2x wrote:

dagilechia wrote:

x2x wrote:Dag - The ref had a little bit of trouble breaking them apart in the heat of the exchange, no more than is usual. But that's not when Zimnoch got rocked. He got rocked after they separated and then came back together again.

i saw the fight live from the venue and it looked like he got hurt after that punch thats why i got opinion like this. still i wouldnt be surprised if Mollo KO's Zimnoch anyway, i thought Mike will KO Zimnoch again even with no referee help/mistakes etc. so i was really shocked that Mike lost the rematch because Zimnoch is not really a good fighter he got popular in Poland only because of his issues with Szpilka

What issues with Szpilka? They were talking about him fighting Szpilka next. Maybe there should be a third fight with Mollo, though. Each won their fight convincingly.

they had to fight to fight on Golota-Saleta undercard just 3 weeks after Szpilka Mollo 1 but Szpilka had to turn it off because it was a hard fight vs Mike. so whats the issues? well Szpilka said that Zimnoch is a in Polish jail slang ''konfident'' it means a police informer and a ''frajer'' i dont know how to translate it, a gull maybe? so Zimnoch once asked him why he is talking shit about him so Szpilka got angry and punched him in the face with his head and brawl started. later they exchanged some ridiculous trash talk like Szpilka said to Zimnoch ''i will make you a fornicating kid in the ring!'' and Zimnoch said that Szpilka is a gay that liked to wank friends dicks on Polish amateur boxing camps. also Szpilka was posting Zimnoch's in Szpilka's jail language something called ''białko'' it means testimony on police. it was a case if im not wrong about some guys attacked someone with machetes and Zimnoch tried to help and later on police he said who were these guys (it was something like that). Thats why there is so much hatred between them and the fight should generate a lot of money and ppv in Poland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QUsCGNZI-s

btw before Wilder-Szpilka fight i heard that people in USA (i mean those who even know who Szpilka is) think he was a hardcore football hooligan. well he was a football hooligan but no one really important in that society and he was in jail because of beating someone on disco party and robbery of a phone. in jail he had a ''N'' status it means ''dangerous'' but people say it was because he was allowed to do everything in jail because of his promoter protection. also, he was a hooligan of Wisła Kraków and from some time craziest groups of Wisła fans the Wisła Sharks said he has no entry to their stadium or even city of Kraków and if they will find him they will kill him with machetes.

It's a story about two relatively unknown and at best B-level boxers but maybe someone gonna find it interesting

x2x wrote:

dagilechia wrote: he beat Wilder in amateurs but he had a lot of injuries when turned pro, was almost a no-name before his incident with Szpilka, now he lifes and trains in London with Richard Williams and maybe he improved a little bit but i dont expect him nothing more than top 30 at best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2QjTroBo4U

i thought its Zimnoch too the guy is so similar but its Romanov so i was wrong too

Zimnoch beat Wilder 23-20 in the 2007 AIBA World Amateur Championships; I believe that was Deontay's first loss The clip above is of Evgeny Romanov KOing Wilder in a USA-Russia duel (Kovalev and Demetrius Andrade fought in the event too).