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after Floyd robbing fans of their money showcasing no action against the most anticipated fight since Lewis/Tyson.

now he wants to fool fans again, wanting fans to buy ppv against a guy with a boxing record of 0-0-0.

when Spence/Brook winner, Thurman/Garcia winner are ready at any time to fight him and now GGG said it clear on TV (espn first take) that for Floyd he would go down to 154. Floyd fought at 154 bfore when he moved up to face Canelo.

so this is what Floyd wants:

him vs McGregor (who has 0 business being in a ring with an elite boxer)
him vs Berto (Berto )
him vs Pacquiao (I let you fans wait 7 years and than I'll steal your money and bore the crowd)

I have 0 problem with some boxer who earned millions and retires and wants to live as he wants to, so be it.
but floyd wants to steal money, fighting a boxer newcomer is stealing money from fans, who have been already stolen before. floyd lied over and over again saying that his fights were entertaining and that he was the present the future of sports entertainmant and tune in to pacquiao etc, when in reality he knew he would fight cautions because thats his style and his hands have been busted up always. i blame also pacquiao, because he shouldve waited till his shoulder is 100 %. both to blame. but at least pac is coming back to fight vargas and khan and not somebody who never fought.

and now GGG wants to step down 2017 is getting better and better

run floyd run!!!

To be honest, I'm not sure if Golvokin could make the weight. If Floyd really wanted the GGG fight, he could easily meet him as a catachweight.

Crease wrote:To be honest, I'm not sure if Golvokin could make the weight. If Floyd really wanted the GGG fight, he could easily meet him as a catachweight.

Yes he can if he has a few months. Andy Lee and Macklin went down and so could Golovkin.

I just wish he would stay retired.

Crease wrote:To be honest, I'm not sure if Golvokin could make the weight. If Floyd really wanted the GGG fight, he could easily meet him as a catachweight.

I believe GGG's word over a guy called Crease on box rec

Crease wrote:To be honest, I'm not sure if Golvokin could make the weight. If Floyd really wanted the GGG fight, he could easily meet him as a catachweight.

Really? I don't think he'd have much trouble. He's one of the few belt holders that wouldn't have to switch weight classes if there were same day weigh ins.

for 40 million or something in that region what he would make against floyd i think he could even make 147 hahaha

all kidding aside. ggg can make 154, he makes 159 middleweight weight without looking ill, weight drained or nothing. he would run a bit more, eat less carbs and easily lose 5 pounds, easy.

But he wouldn't go down to 155 for Canelo.

Crease wrote:To be honest, I'm not sure if Golvokin could make the weight. If Floyd really wanted the GGG fight, he could easily meet him as a catachweight.

I can't see him having any trouble. He's a true middleweight in the old sense of the word, making him a small one by todays standards.

BitPlayer wrote:But he wouldn't go down to 155 for Canelo.

Nope, Canelo isn't worth the trouble. Besides, Canelo would be a MW title fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAXJK6jiRu4&t=0m4s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgv_rK0clDA&t=0m5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuVqgRnPN6M&t=1m4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4poaRwh_l_o&t=4m52s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgoinrsIWww

Floyd is a sh*thouse , he'll have no interest in fighting ggg and getting mauled

GGG slaughters floyd - one sided thrashing inside four rounds -

Is this a recent GGG quote or just something he's said often in the past? Either way seems a pointless thing to make a thread about since we all know this fight would never happen.

Floyd himself has said he's only interested in Conor McGregor or nothing at all.

gilgamesh wrote:Is this a recent GGG quote or just something he's said often in the past? Either way seems a pointless thing to make a thread about since we all know this fight would never happen.

Floyd himself has said he's only interested in Conor McGregor or nothing at all.

It was yesterday on first take. That's all those guys care about. He just answered the question.

boxing_rocks wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:But he wouldn't go down to 155 for Canelo.

Nope, Canelo isn't worth the trouble. Besides, Canelo would be a MW title fight.

By far the biggest win in his career, unify and become lineal champ. But not worth the effort. Nor is going up the division. Nah. Mediocrity FTW!!!

Canelo isn't a big enough star to justify catchweights for.

BitPlayer wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:But he wouldn't go down to 155 for Canelo.

Nope, Canelo isn't worth the trouble. Besides, Canelo would be a MW title fight.

By far the biggest win in his career, unify and become lineal champ. But not worth the effort. Nor is going up the division. Nah. Mediocrity FTW!!!

Absolutely not. I am not so sure that Canelo beats some of Golovkin's victims at 160.

Titles are important for Golovkin which is exactly why he didn't want to give any advantage to Canelo in a title fight.

boxing_rocks wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
Nope, Canelo isn't worth the trouble. Besides, Canelo would be a MW title fight.

By far the biggest win in his career, unify and become lineal champ. But not worth the effort. Nor is going up the division. Nah. Mediocrity FTW!!!

Absolutely not. I am not so sure that Canelo beats some of Golovkin's victims at 160.

Titles are important for Golovkin which is exactly why he didn't want to give any advantage to Canelo in a title fight.

Really? Belts matter more than money, or a legacy?

BitPlayer wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

BitPlayer wrote: By far the biggest win in his career, unify and become lineal champ. But not worth the effort. Nor is going up the division. Nah. Mediocrity FTW!!!

Absolutely not. I am not so sure that Canelo beats some of Golovkin's victims at 160.

Titles are important for Golovkin which is exactly why he didn't want to give any advantage to Canelo in a title fight.

Really? Belts matter more than money, or a legacy?

Yes, can you imagine that ??? Those fuckers like Golovkin, Kovalev or Lomachenko care about belts and have a different understanding of legacy than you.

boxing_rocks wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
Absolutely not. I am not so sure that Canelo beats some of Golovkin's victims at 160.

Titles are important for Golovkin which is exactly why he didn't want to give any advantage to Canelo in a title fight.

Really? Belts matter more than money, or a legacy?

Yes, can you imagine that ??? Those fuckers like Golovkin, Kovalev or Lomachenko care about belts and have a different understanding of legacy than you.

It appears that Abel Sanchez disagrees with you. Do you fancy watching and then reaffirming your belief about Golovkin fighting purely for “PRIDE” rather than the “PRIZE”?

By the way, you can't criticise my opinion, since I'm merely showing you a video of Abel Sanchez explaining Team GGG's logic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ_uv4Nkg88

"Andre is a great boxer. He's got his comeback fight now. He's been out of the ring for a while and the economics just don't add up now. Gennady has said that he would move out of the middleweight division - if it's a big fight. Andre is certainly a great champion, it's just the chemistry is not there yet for a pay-per-view fight.

Did Golovkin willingly travel overseas to face Kell Brook in order to secure his middleweight legacy against the very best 160lb-ers of his era or did his travel to Britain to compete against someone that he himself admitted was “far too small to be a middleweight” (GGG’s words) to earn a career high payday?

Did GGG regularly call out Carl Froch and Chavez Jr. to fight at 168lbs… and also Hopkins at 175lbs, but then refused to consider facing Andre Ward at anything higher than 164lbs, because of his preference to enhance his legacy or bank balance?

We’ve already seen Team GGG openly admit that Golovkin would be willing to agree to fight Mayweather and Pacquiao at 154lbs, because the money would be better than if they faced Cotto and Canelo at 155lbs.

And yet you still claim that GGG is unlike the vast majority of fighters, because you somehow feel that belts are worth more to him than money?

You are a f*cking hypocrite. You know why GGG had to fight Brook: he had an HBO date, and Eubank Jr lost the pen.

Sanchez doesn't decide who GGG faces and at which weight. GGG would take on Ward at 168 instead of Adama, Rubio or Monroe, but the only time Ward "wanted" a fight was when Golovkin just signed for a unification fight. The only reason 164 was ever mentioned was for negotiating purposed. Ward wanted to come from obscurity and get 50% of a purse, so GGG Team wanted to move him playing the weight card.

boxing_rocks wrote:You are a f*cking hypocrite. You know why GGG had to fight Brook: he had an HBO date, and Eubank Jr lost the pen.

Sanchez doesn't decide who GGG faces and at which weight. GGG would take on Ward at 168 instead of Adama, Rubio or Monroe, but the only time Ward "wanted" a fight was when Golovkin just signed for a unification fight. The only reason 164 was ever mentioned was for negotiating purposed. Ward wanted to come from obscurity and get 50% of a purse, so GGG Team wanted to move him playing the weight card.

You asked me questions and I simply supplied you with answers sourced directly from the proverbial horse's mouth. I also asked you questions, which you refrained from answering, because in order to answer them, you had to acknowledge Team GGG's claims.

I didn't express a personal opinion, but I will now...

Gennady Golovkin has every right to seek the biggest fights possible, because it’s only him that gets repeatedly punched in the face for the sake of entertaining us fight fans... and it is his responsibility to protect the long term financial interests of his family.

Therefore, if Loeffler and Sanchez prefer to steer his career in a certain direction in order to minimise risk, whilst maximizing his pay, then they’re simply safeguarding his interests, which is technically going above and beyond the scope of their responsibility.

I won’t criticise Golovkin’s inconsistencies, because all fighters are guilty of the same “crime”.

That said, I will attack those casual fight fans that choose to apply double-standards, whereby their favourite fighters always receive a “free pass”, whereas their closest rivals (or villains) are aggressively derided.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of your moralistic claims about Golovkin are untrue, even though I would personally like them to be.

Remember, you once denied that anyone from Team GGG ever mentioned a 164lbs catch-weight stipulation, whilst you proceeded to attack Canelo's choice for facing Khan at 155lbs.

And guess what happened… Golovkin subsequently fought a welterweight at 160lbs, despite agressively criticising catch-weights, he then subsequently conceded that Kell Brook was far too small for a middleweight... and then I posted a tonne of videos whereby Loeffler, Sanchez and Golovkin himself openly discussed the 164lbs catch-weight.

When you challenged my claims about Loeffler, despite the video of his own words, Dan Rafael and Doug Fischer both emailed Loeffler about the 164lbs catch-weight stipulation, which the K2 boss conceded in writing.

And now you're openly defending Golovkin's previous 164lb catch-weight demands against Ward, despite previously being ashamed to admit that his team even asked for it.

Believe it or not, I’m a Golovkin fan, but I’m primarily a fan of reality… and I always feel compelled to challenge blind bias that is severe to the point of ignorance, hence the reasons why I chose to use Team GGG's very own words to undermine your claims. And you've responded with what, insults?

You recently said that my opinions were "lame", but all I’ve done today is supply videos of Team GGG, but this has somehow caused you great offence. I wonder why?

boxing_rocks wrote:You are a f*cking hypocrite. You know why GGG had to fight Brook: he had an HBO date, and Eubank Jr lost the pen.

Sanchez doesn't decide who GGG faces and at which weight. GGG would take on Ward at 168 instead of Adama, Rubio or Monroe, but the only time Ward "wanted" a fight was when Golovkin just signed for a unification fight. The only reason 164 was ever mentioned was for negotiating purposed. Ward wanted to come from obscurity and get 50% of a purse, so GGG Team wanted to move him playing the weight card.

There was never a second that ward talked to ggg and his team in good faith about a fight.