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The WBC have suspended heavyweight Povetkin and fined him 250k dollars for failed drug test.

Another fvckin cheat.

If he's cheated hell mend him. Think we needs a bit more transparency when it comes to these tests. You're always hearing conflicting reports. In Povetkins case, his body shape and build had changed an awful lot in the last few years so I wouldn't be surprised at all.

But I thought they were all on drugs, so what's the big deal? The WBC and Team Wilder must be delighted about all this. The title is safe.

Yeah honestly, given how unlikely it seems that these guys, in general atleast, are clean, it probably should just be legalized, I'd rather have seen Wilder Vs Povetkin, than have boxing pretend it's top fighter aren't drugs cheats. But lol at the "Everyone but Russia are cheating! There is just a giant conspiracy against Russia!!!!" crowd.

Stuarty30 wrote:If he's cheated hell mend him. Think we needs a bit more transparency when it comes to these tests. You're always hearing conflicting reports. In Povetkins case, his body shape and build had changed an awful lot in the last few years so I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Show me? I haven't seen any change at all, Wilder his body for example changed a lot more in my opinion.

BitPlayer wrote:Yeah honestly, given how unlikely it seems that these guys, in general atleast, are clean, it probably should just be legalized, I'd rather have seen Wilder Vs Povetkin, than have boxing pretend it's top fighter aren't drugs cheats. But lol at the "Everyone but Russia are cheating! There is just a giant conspiracy against Russia!!!!" crowd.

You can see the numbers for yourself, 0,00000000001 of a gram in Povetkin's 220 pound body, yea right, you believe it yourself? Every independent tester in the world couldn't find anything, but the Americans? Yes they can!
Really? 0,00000000001 of a gram from a test a couple of weeks before the match which results will be reveiled just a couple of hours before the match? And every single test before and after is 100% clean? And that twice in a row? And according to all other governing body he's still 100% clean?

asdfjkl wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:If he's cheated hell mend him. Think we needs a bit more transparency when it comes to these tests. You're always hearing conflicting reports. In Povetkins case, his body shape and build had changed an awful lot in the last few years so I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Show me? I haven't seen any change at all, Wilder his body for example changed a lot more in my opinion.

Have a word with yourself. Look at him a few years back. He looked like a bloke from the pub with a bad haircut. He's looked like a tank recently and he's been knocking big guys flat ffs! Same guy who went life and death with cruiserweight Huck! Pfft!

Stuarty30 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:If he's cheated hell mend him. Think we needs a bit more transparency when it comes to these tests. You're always hearing conflicting reports. In Povetkins case, his body shape and build had changed an awful lot in the last few years so I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Show me? I haven't seen any change at all, Wilder his body for example changed a lot more in my opinion.

Have a word with yourself. Look at him a few years back. He looked like a bloke from the pub with a bad haircut. He's looked like a tank recently and he's been knocking big guys flat ffs! Same guy who went life and death with cruiserweight Huck! Pfft!

I thought Huck won that.

Tomasino wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Show me? I haven't seen any change at all, Wilder his body for example changed a lot more in my opinion.

Have a word with yourself. Look at him a few years back. He looked like a bloke from the pub with a bad haircut. He's looked like a tank recently and he's been knocking big guys flat ffs! Same guy who went life and death with cruiserweight Huck! Pfft!

I thought Huck won that.

Yeah if I remember correctly I had Huck just shading it but it could've went either way. What a fight it was

asdfjkl wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:Yeah honestly, given how unlikely it seems that these guys, in general atleast, are clean, it probably should just be legalized, I'd rather have seen Wilder Vs Povetkin, than have boxing pretend it's top fighter aren't drugs cheats. But lol at the "Everyone but Russia are cheating! There is just a giant conspiracy against Russia!!!!" crowd.

You can see the numbers for yourself, 0,00000000001 of a gram in Povetkin's 220 pound body, yea right, you believe it yourself? Every independent tester in the world couldn't find anything, but the Americans? Yes they can!
Really? 0,00000000001 of a gram from a test a couple of weeks before the match which results will be reveiled just a couple of hours before the match? And every single test before and after is 100% clean? And that twice in a row? And according to all other governing body he's still 100% clean?

I said they'll make sure he fails a drugs test before he fights Wilder. The WBC will make sure someone like Povetkin will not get into the mandatory position again. It'll continue to be bums from now on. I think the only "top" fighter Wilder beats is Parker.

The WBC rankings are pretty week. The best fighter being Luis Ortiz who is ranked #2. So they got to make sure someone like Takam, Breazeale etc jump above him.

Stuarty30 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:If he's cheated hell mend him. Think we needs a bit more transparency when it comes to these tests. You're always hearing conflicting reports. In Povetkins case, his body shape and build had changed an awful lot in the last few years so I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Show me? I haven't seen any change at all, Wilder his body for example changed a lot more in my opinion.

Have a word with yourself. Look at him a few years back. He looked like a bloke from the pub with a bad haircut. He's looked like a tank recently and he's been knocking big guys flat ffs! Same guy who went life and death with cruiserweight Huck! Pfft!

Boswell weight in (2011 12):


Rahman weight in (2012 9):


Wawrzyk fight (2013 5):

(Who's btw also a steroid freak if we have to believe the Americans)

Klitschko weight in (2013 10):


After this lose, his first lose, he stated himself he was going to train a lot more and especially on strength

Char weight in (2014 5):


Takam weight in (2014 10):


Perez weight in (2015 5):


Wach weight in (2015 11):


Stiverne weight in (2016 12):




Now Deontay Wilder:
Liakhovich weight in:


Firtha weight in:


Scott weight in:

(Wilder didn't need to be in shape because Scott was going to take a dive anyway

Jason Gavern weight in:

(what's that on his belly?)

Stiverne weight in:


Molina weight in:


Duhaupas weight in:


Szpilka weight in:


Arreola weight in:

Didn't need to be in shape because he knew he didn't need to fight Povetkin and Arreola would take a dive anyway whenever asked.

Washington weight in:

(back in shape again)

Can clearly see his body shape has changed in those pics alone. Even his face looks different.

The pictures do show a difference but not really any proof of PEDs, they are gradual changes over a long period of time which can easily be achieved by training.