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dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 08:47
by brilo33
they were talking dave allen up last week , in the interview after hull fight ,he says he actually trained for that fight ,i think he could be a british champ if he put the effort in, can take a shot and give one, beats price for me,think he could beat Dillian Whyte in a rematch in trained well
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 08:52
by PredatorHayds
Decent fighter needs to train properly and get the right backing behind him.
Maybe gets to British title level. Can't see him ever beating Price or Whyte though IMO
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 09:01
by mullenman
Good little fight this
Two big men. Looking forward to it
Allen seems sound
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 09:06
by ProMayhem
Like Allen a lot and respect him as a fighter not scared to give it a go with guys like Ortiz and Whyte! Be interesting to see how far he can go if he takes his training seriously! Defo has a British Title in him I think
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 09:08
by handsofstone
I like Allen, he's a character and always replies to people on twitter, I don't tweet myself but I follow boxers, i'd love to se him get a crack at the British, he's a throwback
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 09:28
by Stuarty
He could definitely be British champ. The BBBoC have set the standard when they ordered Cornish v Sexton for the vacant title (awful match making). There's every chance Allen beats the two of them.
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 09:29
by rm1
Looks like being one of the better fights on the card and I hope Allen does well. Any idea what time this ones on ?
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 09:30
by Horse
PredatorHayds wrote:Can't see him ever beating Price or Whyte though IMO
And Price is
still getting overrated on this forum!
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 09:32
by brilo33
why don't hearn get hold of him probably get him in the gym 24/7. think allen is a cash cow
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 09:56
by canonball1234
There's no excuses for not training hard, and not being in shape there's people grafting there balls off to get the David Allen treatment
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 10:07
by asdfjkl
I'd like to see Allen vs Spong
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 11:34
by fizzjambo
Horse wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:Can't see him ever beating Price or Whyte though IMO
And Price is
still getting overrated on this forum!
Agreed. Allan's just too tough for Price. He's wear him down these days
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 11:39
by crusader
Hes certainly shown he can go rounds as a punching bag, but Ive never seen him show much else against a decent opponent, and talk of beating Whyte seems farfetched. Theres a huge gap between the guys who beat him and the guys hes beat, and to get a better idea of his ability Id like to see him face someone between those points.
Howe is still a pretty low level guy, though obviously a step up on the crap he fought last time.
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 12:17
by PredatorHayds
fizzjambo wrote:Horse wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:Can't see him ever beating Price or Whyte though IMO
And Price is
still getting overrated on this forum!
Agreed. Allan's just too tough for Price. He's wear him down these days
Allen hasn't beaten anyone of note yet.
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 12:26
by brilo33
PredatorHayds wrote:fizzjambo wrote:Horse wrote:And Price is still getting overrated on this forum!
Agreed. Allan's just too tough for Price. He's wear him down these days
Allen hasn't beaten anyone of note yet.
we know , nor had clay till he beat liston , we judge what we see
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 12:30
by Oiky
Allens got this

Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 12:53
by crusader
brilo33 wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:fizzjambo wrote:
Agreed. Allan's just too tough for Price. He's wear him down these days
Allen hasn't beaten anyone of note yet.
we know , nor had clay till he beat liston , we judge what we see
What do you see in Allen aside from a good chin? How would he beat Whyte?
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 12:56
by brilo33
crusader wrote:brilo33 wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:
Allen hasn't beaten anyone of note yet.
we know , nor had clay till he beat liston , we judge what we see
What do you see in Allen aside from a good chin?
think he has decent power , think he moves well for a big lad, i think if trained well he could box well , i ant talking world beater , just better then some clown he is acting now,
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 13:10
by boxingknockout
crusader wrote:brilo33 wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:
Allen hasn't beaten anyone of note yet.
we know , nor had clay till he beat liston , we judge what we see
What do you see in Allen aside from a good chin? How would he beat Whyte?
An enormous penis? Maybe he can strangle Whyte with it
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 13:21
by BigDoofus
brilo33 wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:fizzjambo wrote:
Agreed. Allan's just too tough for Price. He's wear him down these days
Allen hasn't beaten anyone of note yet.
we know , nor had clay till he beat liston , we judge what we see

Someone comparing Dave Allen to Cassius Clay.
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 13:25
by brilo33
BigDoofus wrote:brilo33 wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:
Allen hasn't beaten anyone of note yet.
we know , nor had clay till he beat liston , we judge what we see

Someone comparing Dave Allen to Cassius Clay.
NOT at all,just saying you don't start fighting with beating the best, and i was being very tongue in cheek
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 13:32
by Tarkus
crusader wrote:
What do you see in Allen aside from a good chin? How would he beat Whyte?
His technique is pretty decent. He moves well. But he is extremely lucking in athleticism. It seems that he started to train after Ortiz but until I see a real change is his physicality I wont get on the bandwagon. He needs to prove to me he can work hard.
That said though this Howe guy is completely useless from what I've seen. Allen should get him out of there in a round or two.
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 13:51
by Dixonian
People still don't get it. A mediocre heavyweight is a very good heavyweight these days. That's why Allen's getting talked about.
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 13:53
by crusader
Allen has zero wins over anyone in the top 100. He can take a beating for sure, but I really dont think hes that good at all.
A bit Homer Simpson-ish for me, at least in comparison to guys in the top 40 or so. Fair play to him for getting the attention he has despite his limitations and weak resume.
Re: dave allen v David Howe (undercard 02)
Posted: 04 Mar 2017, 15:49
by Tugger28
Don't think Allen is Anywhere near European level...not a lot of skill just swinging...pretty poor really!