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I wonder how real is this offer and if GGG agrees on it, will Oscar make the fight or he will ask for different diva demands till GGG get's old and beatable ??

No way in hell he should take that.

Didn’t Golovkin only receive a payday amounting to roughly $3.7m to face Kell Brook and $2m for each of his previous two bouts? And now it’s rumoured that he’s being offered $15m from GBP to fight Canelo, which doesn’t sound bad for a man whose biggest US PPV event generated a buy-rate of 150K.

Dan Rafael claimed during one of his chat sessions that Canelo (as the B-side fighter) earned slightly more than $10m for each of his bouts against Cotto and Mayweather. And now it's Golovkin's turn to be considered as the B-side.

To compare Golovkin's rumoured $15m payday to other B-side fighters, The Guardian claims that Floyd Mayweather netted $10m for his fight against Oscar De La Hoya.

GGG’s rivals are often aggressively lambasted by fight fans for pricing themselves out of fights against Golovkin, which they claim to be a form of “ducking”, but now they seem to be supporting the notion that Kazakh shouldn’t sign the Canelo contract until he receives a bigger payday.

I don’t know if the $15m offer is legitimate or not, but if it is, surely Golovkin should take it, because it’s naïve to the point of sheer stupidity to believe that this bout will enjoy commercial success anywhere near approaching the cash sums generated by the Mayweather-Pacquiao super-fight?

I have to agree with Enlightened-One.
This fight is big to boxing fans but does not have the appeal of a true super fight. It does not transcend the sport or have tge appeal to bring in non boxing fans.

Take the offer. That's more than hell ever make without Canelo

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No way in hell he should take that.

Why not?

15m from 100/200m is a slap on the face.

..should agree to the offer, beat the living sh*te ouf of Canelo, get into the driving seat and start fighting on his conditions..

ElJefe wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No way in hell he should take that.

Why not?

Because they're short changing him. There is a ton of money in this fight and while canelo is the a side, ggg deserves a percentage as opposed to a flat fee.

ElJefe wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No way in hell he should take that.

Why not?

Because it could end up being under 25% of the purse.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ElJefe wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No way in hell he should take that.

Why not?

Because they're short changing him. There is a ton of money in this fight and while canelo is the a side, ggg deserves a percentage as opposed to a flat fee.

$15m is short changing him? I'm not sure, speaking as a fan of both, I think that's good money. GGG is a ticket seller but not a PPV draw in the way that Canelo is. Pretty much everyone has to be on the short end of the stick in their first mega fight and $15m isn't bad money as the B-side when your only previous PPV appearance only did 150k buys.

boxing_rocks wrote:

ElJefe wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No way in hell he should take that.

Why not?

Because it could end up being under 25% of the purse.

Really? I might be wrong but wasn't it reported that Canelo and Cotto split a $20m purse? Is GGG-Canelo that much bigger than that fight?

$15m amounting to 25% of the purse would make the total purse $60m, 3 times more than Canelo and Cotto. I can't see it personally.

Did Canelo and Cotto not also get significant PPV money? What did Khan earn?

$15m is a load of money, certainly several times GGG's career high, and I think it might be worth taking if theres no budge on the other side. A win would probably significantly boost his earning power and profile.

There are 3 scenarios of their status before their fight (provided they both win their next fights):

1. Golovkin has the WBO belt -- no way should he take $15 mil in this case
2. Canelo has the WBO belt -- Golovkin should take $15 mil, as having that belt is his primary goal
3. None of them have the belt -- ??? If Golovkin has a more challenging option (for example a SMW champion), then his decision will show if he is a more of a pride or a prize fighter.

crusader wrote:Did Canelo and Cotto not also get significant PPV money? What did Khan earn?

$15m is a load of money, certainly several times GGG's career high, and I think it might be worth taking if theres no budge on the other side. A win would probably significantly boost his earning power and profile.

Possibly, but would Golovkin not also get his share of that to add to his $15m? As I say I'm not entirely sure so could well be talking out of my arse.

And again iirc it was reported here that Khan made about £8-9m. Not sure how that translated to US Dollars at the time because the £ has fluctuated a fair bit recently.

ElJefe wrote:

crusader wrote:Did Canelo and Cotto not also get significant PPV money? What did Khan earn?

$15m is a load of money, certainly several times GGG's career high, and I think it might be worth taking if theres no budge on the other side. A win would probably significantly boost his earning power and profile.

Possibly, but would Golovkin not also get his share of that to add to his $15m? As I say I'm not entirely sure so could well be talking out of my arse.

And again iirc it was reported here that Khan made about £8-9m. Not sure how that translated to US Dollars at the time because the £ has fluctuated a fair bit recently.

That would make Khan's purse about $11 mil. In other words, they are offering an undisputed top MW a purse only 40% higher than to a chinny WW who isn't even top 5 and who had absolutely no chances against Canelo.

The supposed offer is a flat fee I believe--no PPV share for GGG

boxing_rocks wrote:

ElJefe wrote:

crusader wrote:Did Canelo and Cotto not also get significant PPV money? What did Khan earn?

$15m is a load of money, certainly several times GGG's career high, and I think it might be worth taking if theres no budge on the other side. A win would probably significantly boost his earning power and profile.

Possibly, but would Golovkin not also get his share of that to add to his $15m? As I say I'm not entirely sure so could well be talking out of my arse.

And again iirc it was reported here that Khan made about £8-9m. Not sure how that translated to US Dollars at the time because the £ has fluctuated a fair bit recently.

That would make Khan's purse about $11 mil. In other words, they are offering an undisputed top MW a purse only 40% higher than to a chinny WW who isn't even top 5 and who had absolutely no chances against Canelo.

It's not about talent. It's about revenue generation.

Khan is a Brit that is US-based and also happens to have southern Asian (Pakistani) heritage... and is also a Muslim. That's an awful lot of boxes to tick, which makes him a very unique and marketable commodity.

He has a massive fan base, regardless of talent.

It's little wonder that Khan has a greater net wealth than GGG.

ElJefe wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ElJefe wrote:
Why not?

Because they're short changing him. There is a ton of money in this fight and while canelo is the a side, ggg deserves a percentage as opposed to a flat fee.

$15m is short changing him? I'm not sure, speaking as a fan of both, I think that's good money. GGG is a ticket seller but not a PPV draw in the way that Canelo is. Pretty much everyone has to be on the short end of the stick in their first mega fight and $15m isn't bad money as the B-side when your only previous PPV appearance only did 150k buys.

boxing_rocks wrote:

ElJefe wrote:
Why not?

Because it could end up being under 25% of the purse.

Really? I might be wrong but wasn't it reported that Canelo and Cotto split a $20m purse? Is GGG-Canelo that much bigger than that fight?

$15m amounting to 25% of the purse would make the total purse $60m, 3 times more than Canelo and Cotto. I can't see it personally.

Purse is different than ppv upside. Yes, I think it would be worth more than that and so does GBP.

ElJefe wrote:

crusader wrote:Did Canelo and Cotto not also get significant PPV money? What did Khan earn?

$15m is a load of money, certainly several times GGG's career high, and I think it might be worth taking if theres no budge on the other side. A win would probably significantly boost his earning power and profile.

Possibly, but would Golovkin not also get his share of that to add to his $15m? As I say I'm not entirely sure so could well be talking out of my arse.

And again iirc it was reported here that Khan made about £8-9m. Not sure how that translated to US Dollars at the time because the £ has fluctuated a fair bit recently.

The alleged 15 million offer is a flat fee. If they did 2 million buys he'd get 15 million.

Enlightened-One wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

ElJefe wrote:
Possibly, but would Golovkin not also get his share of that to add to his $15m? As I say I'm not entirely sure so could well be talking out of my arse.

And again iirc it was reported here that Khan made about £8-9m. Not sure how that translated to US Dollars at the time because the £ has fluctuated a fair bit recently.

That would make Khan's purse about $11 mil. In other words, they are offering an undisputed top MW a purse only 40% higher than to a chinny WW who isn't even top 5 and who had absolutely no chances against Canelo.

It's not about talent. It's about revenue generation.

Khan is a Brit that is US-based and also happens to have southern Asian (Pakistani) heritage... and is also a Muslim. That's an awful lot of boxes to tick, which makes him a very unique and marketable commodity.

He has a massive fan base, regardless of talent.

It's little wonder that Khan has a greater net wealth than GGG.

Canelo vs GGG will generate WAY more buys than Canelo vs Khan.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ElJefe wrote:

crusader wrote:Did Canelo and Cotto not also get significant PPV money? What did Khan earn?

$15m is a load of money, certainly several times GGG's career high, and I think it might be worth taking if theres no budge on the other side. A win would probably significantly boost his earning power and profile.

Possibly, but would Golovkin not also get his share of that to add to his $15m? As I say I'm not entirely sure so could well be talking out of my arse.

And again iirc it was reported here that Khan made about £8-9m. Not sure how that translated to US Dollars at the time because the £ has fluctuated a fair bit recently.

The alleged 15 million offer is a flat fee. If they did 2 million buys he'd get 15 million.

No way in hell does this fight even come close to 2 million buys

tiny_acres wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ElJefe wrote:
Possibly, but would Golovkin not also get his share of that to add to his $15m? As I say I'm not entirely sure so could well be talking out of my arse.

And again iirc it was reported here that Khan made about £8-9m. Not sure how that translated to US Dollars at the time because the £ has fluctuated a fair bit recently.

The alleged 15 million offer is a flat fee. If they did 2 million buys he'd get 15 million.

No way in hell does this fight even come close to 2 million buys

I don't think so either. But it will do at least a million and we've all been surprised before.

boxing_rocks wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
That would make Khan's purse about $11 mil. In other words, they are offering an undisputed top MW a purse only 40% higher than to a chinny WW who isn't even top 5 and who had absolutely no chances against Canelo.

It's not about talent. It's about revenue generation.

Khan is a Brit that is US-based and also happens to have southern Asian (Pakistani) heritage... and is also a Muslim. That's an awful lot of boxes to tick, which makes him a very unique and marketable commodity.

He has a massive fan base, regardless of talent.

It's little wonder that Khan has a greater net wealth than GGG.

Canelo vs GGG will generate WAY more buys than Canelo vs Khan.

Canelo-GGG will almost certainly generate more PPV buys in the US than Canelo-Khan, but the difference won't be as great as you think. However, I suspect that the gap in the total cash generated could be partially-offset due to Khan bringing in more international TV revenue than Golovkin could.

Regardless, I believe that boxing PPV's are suffering a bit of a hangover due to the Pacquiao-Mayweather bout, so the amount of buys will not be in reminiscent of the numbers achieved by the likes of Mayweather, Tyson and De La Hoya.

Golovkin-Canelo will be a big PPV event, but it might struggle to break a million buys... and if it does, it'll be because of Canelo's popularity not Golovkin's.

Put it this way, I'm supremely confident that the Golovkin-Jacobs PPV will do less than half the amount of buys of Canelo-Chavez Jr.

Does anyone remember Pacquiao turning down a $40 million offer from Floyd? I'm guessing Pac ended up making about $100 million. Remember it would have been an all time high paycheck for Pac too.

Although this potential fight, even PPV, will do probably half of what Floyd/Pac did, even with 40% GGG would make much more than $15 million. (just a wild guess, but probably twice that).Team Canelo is still pricing themselves out of this fight.

Why would GGG take the first offer thrown at him. Maybe there is a better offer.

Why is GGG vs Jacobs even PPV? As shitty as HBO has become, GGG looks to become one of those twice a year fighters due to HBO's garbage scheduling, same with Kovalev, and on top of that being assigned to PPV. Just mind boggling that boxing's premium promotion makes it hard for it's hardcore fans to even enjoy watching their favorite fighters. But honestly, I haven't even cared to watch GGG much these days. Uncompelling competition lined up for their ass kickings in waiting.