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i think this fight has the potential to be
real great. wladimir will make a great
effort to keep it competitive and AJ is
solid talent.

that said, i expected fireworks in wlad
against haye and i was not that right
back then.

man wrote:i think this fight has the potential to be
real great. wladimir will make a great
effort to keep it competitive and AJ is
solid talent.

that said, i expected fireworks in wlad
against haye and i was not that right
back then.

I can't see it being a dogfight. I hope it is, but the strange thing about Vitali v Lennox was it was totally alien to their styles. Last great HW title fight.

I certainly hope so and I agree it definitely has the potential to be a great fight. I believe that despite all the hype around Joshua, that he is the real deal and Wlad is a proud champion who isn't only there for the money. I'm sure Wlad believes he will win and will take a lot of punishment in an effort to prove it.

I'm going to stick my neck out and say that I believe that future historians may say that Joshua was the best opponent WK ever faced. Time will tell if I'm right or whether I'm getting a little carried away.

The heavyweights have always been my favourite division. It's hard to get excited about a fighter who weighs less than your sister, I find. As a Brit I grew up watching heavies like Henry Cooper and desperately hoping to get a fighter that could really compete at the highest level. I was one of a minority rooting for young Joe Bugner to beat him. Joe was very frustrating - built like a Greek god yet generally a passive soul. I only ever saw him riled a couple of times when he'd just been hurt and he then looked very dangerous ... for half a minute or so.

I yearned for a Brit who was like Earnie Shaver(s), someone who wasn't necessarily great, I wasn't greedy, but someone with power and who could excite. Someone who always had a puncher's chance. When Frank Bruno came along I felt he was custom built to my specification and I was a big fan despite his shortcomings at the top level.

I'm still waiting for the Messiah ... or am I?

I don't see the potential for a great fight. Either AJ starches him or wlad does his hugging.

Yeah I can see the potential in that too

LOLOLOLOL......You guys do realize that Wlad is just trying to get one last payday right? He'll not make it out of the 3rd round. The guys never had heart in the first place. The most boring fighter on the planet will be planted into retirement and obscurity forever early in this fight. It might even be a phantom punch by AJ that does it so Wlad doesn't have to take any damage.

You all will be disappointed with this fight. I might not even watch it if there's something better on and boxing is my love. It's just going to be a waste of time. Joke.

I think Caldo that your lack of respect for Klitschko is colouring your judgement. I expect AJ to give him more trouble than he can handle but Wlad will go out on his shield I'm sure of it.

Just ignore him. Caldo is an imbecile. Anyone that thinks Wlad has never shown heart is a plain moron. You can criticize him for hugging as that is a fair comment, but lack of heart isn't.

Yes, it will be.

Loki wrote:strange thing about Vitali v Lennox was it was totally alien to their styles.

candyslim wrote:It's hard to get excited about a fighter who weighs less than your sister ...

one of these poetic boxrec gems ...

thank you, sir.

caldo2025 wrote:LOLOLOLOL......You guys do realize that Wlad is just trying to get one last payday right? He'll not make it out of the 3rd round. The guys never had heart in the first place. The most boring fighter on the planet will be planted into retirement and obscurity forever early in this fight. It might even be a phantom punch by AJ that does it so Wlad doesn't have to take any damage.

You all will be disappointed with this fight. I might not even watch it if there's something better on and boxing is my love. It's just going to be a waste of time. Joke.

you could be very right.

candyslim wrote:... Wlad will go out on his shield I'm sure of it.

i had thought the same when he
faced haye.

Baby Face Finster wrote:Just ignore him. Caldo is an imbecile. Anyone that thinks Wlad has never shown heart is a plain moron. You can criticize him for hugging as that is a fair comment, but lack of heart isn't.

i tend to agree, but i really
hated how he fought haye.

I don't think either has a chin, I see a chess match early then an explosive ko either way, got a feeling AJ will get exposed if klitschko has anything left!

I was more of a fan of Dr Ironfist rather than his more vulnerable brother Dr Steelhammer. After that performance against Fury logic suggests that unless he can shake off considerable ring rust and magically nullify AJs power (Clinchko), he is going to get seriously hurt.

This fight has a touch of Holmes v Tyson. I hope the referee remains vigilant. Vladimir, like Holmes, has nothing left to prove. One of the most dominant champions in heavyweight history. However, as someone said, the passing of time is a terrible crime.

Klitschko will expose the big Brit as just another Gary Mason, Frank Bruno, Henry Akinwande....

AJ is no Lennox Lewis and he never will be. All this pressure, all this hype, etc on the young man that when the bubble bursts, he'll never be able to mentally and emotionally recover. It'll be like Cooney all over again. That's the problem with the British boxing fans when it comes to their heavyweights: so much unbelievable expectations, so much fanfare, so much bollox, so much money and fame far and away too soon.

Have you not learned from your mistakes? You still uphold Cooper, and yet piss all over Bugner though ole Joe was clearly better in his career than ole 'Enry. You couldn't stand Fury cus he's a "foreigner" in your eyes, though his family has been there for over a thousand years, so you put all your energies behind Price (fail) and now its Joshua who hasn't fought anybody. He literally has fought nobody. He "won" that title because the IBF robbed Fury of it, yet if you talked to some of you people you'd think the second coming of Jesus Christ was eminent, or at the very least the return of Joe Louis.

Klitschko may be old.... but AJ is no Fury..... he isn't the same kinda style as Fury, and he won't be able to escape the thunderous blows of the Steel Hammer.... Fury won because of reflexes, speed, ring generalship and constant jabs.... AJ is a come forward kind of man (the kind of man Klitschko feasts upon) and he has no head movement, always fights in a straight line.... His hand speed could be doubled and it wouldn't make much of a difference.... Klitschko has fought harder punching men, Klitschko has fought more experienced men, Klitschko has been in tough fights whereas AJ has never had to really dig deep (I dont think getting tagged once by Whyte counts as digging deep so don't even fornicating go there with me)

Come the night, if AJ can't do the job in the first three-four rounds.... you will see Klitschko stop him inside of six-eight rounds.... and we'll all have flashbacks to the era of John Ruiz when it seemed like Ruiz just kept getting the WBA title over and over and over again and be screaming, "Please God no!", but Klitschko will prove (once again) that he is the best in the world.... well, save for the Irish Gypsy who embarassed him in Germany.... and save a showdown with Wilder (or return with Fury) Klitschko has nothing else to prove in the boxing world, and poor little AJ will have his followers round up around him again and say, "Now that mean old Wladimir is no longer around to bully you, you can be the greatest champ!"

British fans really, really, really.... just irk the hell out of me.... it's pathetic when it comes to their devotion to perpetual losers and halfwits and overblown hypejobs.... absolutely sickening, absolutely immature, and absolutely short sighted.... shame, considering the sport we all love so dearly originated in England and yet Englishmen seem to have no grasp on the realities of the game when it comes to emotional favorites.

man wrote:

candyslim wrote:It's hard to get excited about a fighter who weighs less than your sister ...

one of these poetic boxrec gems ...

thank you, sir.

Any time my good man. You are most welcome and too kind.

You're right Hank, AJ is no fury. He's much better.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You're right Hank, AJ is no fury. He's much better.

.................. I hope you will be the first to apologize when he loses

HomicideHenry wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You're right Hank, AJ is no fury. He's much better.

.................. I hope you will be the first to apologize when he loses

I'll be reading you talk about wlad being shot. He'd massacre fury within 3 rounds.

Hank if you can't discern a massive gulf in quality between Joshua and the likes of Gary Mason (RIP big fellah) then you know little about boxing. I grant you the jury is still out regarding Joshua's chin but I suspect it will still be on mayday.

P.s. Don't tell me Bugner was a better fighter than Cooper. I was rooting for Bugner to beat Cooper that night (there weren't many of us that were). Cooper was too small to compete with the Listons and the Fraziers, his manager Jim Wicks would never allow such a match. He ducked George Chuvalo too although our 'Enery would have fought anyone if Wicks let him. Henry was also very prone to cuts, but he was a very capable boxer technically with a vicious left hook which floored Ali/Clay for well over ten seconds.

Bugner was tough and a decent boxer if a little robotic. He was a gentle giant though and never showed enough aggression. Maybe he was affected by the death of his early career opponent Ulrich Regis as a result of injuries sustained. The beauty of Bugner was that you could match him with anyone without fear for his safety, largely because of his decent defense, durability and strength. A better fighter than Cooper though? You won't find many Brits agreeing with you and we ought to know.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You're right Hank, AJ is no fury. He's much better.

.................. I hope you will be the first to apologize when he loses

I'll be reading you talk about wlad being shot. He'd massacre fury within 3 rounds.

We will wait and see..... if I am wrong, I'll be the first to admit I am wrong

But I predicted Fury-Klitschko, Bellew-Haye, Holm-Rousey, and even the demise of David Price.

I ain't always right, but when it comes to heavyweights (primarily) I usually get it 8 out of 10 times correct.

I see nothing in Anthony Joshua, that Klitschko hasn't faced before. Kubrat Pulev (imho) is far and away better than AJ, more credentialed and skillful, and yet he only lasted five rounds with Klitschko. All it takes is ONE mistake and you're gone, especially in the heavyweight division. I think the older, wiser, more experienced Klitschko will pick his shots, wait for the right time, and when AJ is too trigger happy, therein lies his doom.

I think Joshua is the best heavyweight since Lewis.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I think Joshua is the best heavyweight since Lewis.

Saad.... I used to think you were one of the more highminded men on this forum.... but today you have proven me wrong.