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I just tried to access some info on "Sonny" Liston in the records section and typed in Charles Liston. It was interesting to me that no records exist for him. Typing in "Sonny Liston" works thankfully but I thought it odd that
a good source like this one would not recognise his real name.

An interesting point , however it does give his birth name.

Boxers are listed under the names they fought as, not as their birth names.

I can see the point in that in the case of a "Willie Pep" but not in this instance.

New York Times search:

Charles Liston 9 results
Sonny Liston 1407 results

Which name is he better known as in boxing circles?

In boxing circles, the more than casual fan knows what the man's name was. Admit it, somebody screwed the pooch here. Not a hanging offence but not consistent with the majority of listings.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, just so happens that yours is wrong. I recall a thread here a couple of years ago where someone was asking what Sonny's given name was.

Boxerdog wrote:In boxing circles, the more than casual fan knows what the man's name was. Admit it, somebody screwed the pooch here. Not a hanging offence but not consistent with the majority of listings.

The thing is, though, that not all hardcore Boxing fans visit the site, and given that more people know "Sonny" Liston than Charles Liston or Charles "Sonny" Liston, it makes more logical sense to put him as "Sonny" Liston. Just like they don't list "Jersey" Joe Walcott as Arnold Raymond Cream, the site lists Liston by his Boxing name, which is correct.

Anyone know where I can find the records of Joe Barrow or Walker Smith?

robin wrote:Boxers are listed under the names they fought as, not as their birth names.

Just found "Tex" Cobb as Randall. Inconsistent.

Boxerdog wrote:

robin wrote:Boxers are listed under the names they fought as, not as their birth names.

Just found "Tex" Cobb as Randall. Inconsistent.

:x :x :x 8)

For goodness sake, is this really that big an issue?

:x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x !!!!.... it's life or death to some of us mate! ...I mean who are you if you aren't who you are???...... 8) ..........know what I mean?.... 8)

It is not that big a deal at all, assholes.
Just a matter of inconsistancies that editor-boy should admit to.

Boxerdog wrote:It is not that big a deal at all, assholes.
Just a matter of inconsistancies that editor-boy should admit to.

Grow up mate, the only 'boy' here is you!... 8)

Alright I admit it, I thought Sonny was actually his real name. :(

I hand my head in shame.

Boxerdog wrote:It is not that big a deal at all, assholes.
Just a matter of inconsistancies that editor-boy should admit to.

being abusive to people is not a very bright way of getting your message across.

Gee thanks, Ned Flanders!

Boxerdog



Joined: 27 Nov 2002
Posts: 52
Location: Greater Cincinnati Area
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2002 5:01 pm Post subject: Hello gentlemen (and ladies)...

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I have been reading posts on this forum for a few days and like what I see. A lot of knowledgeble posters, a bare minimum of B.S. and for the most part, a respectful attitude towards others.
I look forward to learning from all of you and if I can contribute something to your understanding of the sport or the fighters that inspire us, that is great.
I am a long time fan. I remember watching the old Gillette fights on
black and white T.V. I remember both Patterson/ Johannson fights and like a lot of people I was completely hooked after seeing a young, brash kid from Louisville dethrone the scariest looking character I had ever laid eyes on....Sonny Liston.
My favorite fighters include S.R.R. and S.R.L. and the other members of the Fab Four, Henry Armstrong, Bobby Chacon, the young Tyson, Marciano, J. Johnson, Graziano, probably 20 others that you will get tired of hearing about from me and of course the man......Ali.
I am very glad to be here to enjoy your insight. Peace.

robert.snell1 wrote:Boxerdog



Joined: 27 Nov 2002
Posts: 52
Location: Greater Cincinnati Area
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2002 5:01 pm Post subject: Hello gentlemen (and ladies)...

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I have been reading posts on this forum for a few days and like what I see. A lot of knowledgeble posters, a bare minimum of B.S. and for the most part, a respectful attitude towards others.
I look forward to learning from all of you and if I can contribute something to your understanding of the sport or the fighters that inspire us, that is great.
I am a long time fan. I remember watching the old Gillette fights on
black and white T.V. I remember both Patterson/ Johannson fights and like a lot of people I was completely hooked after seeing a young, brash kid from Louisville dethrone the scariest looking character I had ever laid eyes on....Sonny Liston.
My favorite fighters include S.R.R. and S.R.L. and the other members of the Fab Four, Henry Armstrong, Bobby Chacon, the young Tyson, Marciano, J. Johnson, Graziano, probably 20 others that you will get tired of hearing about from me and of course the man......Ali.
I am very glad to be here to enjoy your insight. Peace.

I'm sure we're all very glad that he's here as well!... :x :x .. eh???... 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) ...then again, perhaps not!... :x 8) ...

And who the hell's Ned Falnders???..... ....some Country and Weastern singer singing about applepie and all that no doubt!!! :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x 8) 8)

At the risk of feeding this "mountain out of a molehill" frenzy, I would just point out the possibility of my reading comments of different posters in Nov. of '02. ......posibly even the comments of posters who would not jump down your throat for drawing attention to a couple of perfectly reasonable points.

(and Ned Flanders is the nerdy, goody two shoes neighbor on "The Simpsons" btw.)

Boxerdog wrote:At the risk of feeding this "mountain out of a molehill" frenzy, I would just point out the possibility of my reading comments of different posters in Nov. of '02. ......posibly even the comments of posters who would not jump down your throat for drawing attention to a couple of perfectly reasonable points.

(and Ned Flanders is the nerdy, goody two shoes neighbor on "The Simpsons" btw.)

What happened to peace and love???.......

Dammit man, even I know who Ned Flanders is.

So I'm not a Simpsons fan! sue me!!!.. .. I don't watch Eastenders either!..... :x