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May 27 in Helsinki for the WBC Silver Title which means the winner will be in line for Wilder.

DelBoy must be getting well paid if he's fighting away from home again! I had him winning their first meeting comfortably. Hopefully he can stop him this time and take it out the judges hands.

I think Wilder vs Chisora would be a very entertaining Fight , especially the build-up to this Fight , both Fighters are known
for entertaining press conferences.
I hope that Chisora will win that time against Helenius and i think he is the favourite , because he had the much better Opponents in the last
couple of years , and gained a lot of experience

Stuarty30 wrote:DelBoy must be getting well paid if he's fighting away from home again! I had him winning their first meeting comfortably. Hopefully he can stop him this time and take it out the judges hands.

Helenius was one armed for the fight, and I've always rated him much more than DelBoy...however he did suffer a nasty knockout loss so if DelBoy is to get his first major win of his career now would be the time.

Niko1209 wrote:I think Wilder vs Chisora would be a very entertaining Fight , especially the build-up to this Fight , both Fighters are known
for entertaining press conferences.
I hope that Chisora will win that time against Helenius and i think he is the favourite , because he had the much better Opponents in the last
couple of years , and gained a lot of experience

He also gained a lot of losses; he's never won a single step up fight in his career.

Stuarty30 wrote:DelBoy must be getting well paid if he's fighting away from home again! I had him winning their first meeting comfortably. Hopefully he can stop him this time and take it out the judges hands.

I think IF and that is a big IF the Delboy from the Whyte fight turns up he will smash Helenius.

Del will be well up for it and knows he can not leave it to the judges. That first fight is one of the worst robberies I have seen Del easily win bare minimum 9 rounds.

punchoutsb wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:DelBoy must be getting well paid if he's fighting away from home again! I had him winning their first meeting comfortably. Hopefully he can stop him this time and take it out the judges hands.

Helenius was one armed for the fight, and I've always rated him much more than DelBoy...however he did suffer a nasty knockout loss so if DelBoy is to get his first major win of his career now would be the time.

Niko1209 wrote:I think Wilder vs Chisora would be a very entertaining Fight , especially the build-up to this Fight , both Fighters are known
for entertaining press conferences.
I hope that Chisora will win that time against Helenius and i think he is the favourite , because he had the much better Opponents in the last
couple of years , and gained a lot of experience

He also gained a lot of losses; he's never won a single step up fight in his career.

Thats right , but he only lost to Elite Fighters like Vitali Klitschko,David Haye and Tyson Fury and his loss against Dillian Whyte was questionable.
I think even when you lose , you can gain a lot of experience , especially when you constantly fights against the best of the best.

Niko1209 wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:DelBoy must be getting well paid if he's fighting away from home again! I had him winning their first meeting comfortably. Hopefully he can stop him this time and take it out the judges hands.

Helenius was one armed for the fight, and I've always rated him much more than DelBoy...however he did suffer a nasty knockout loss so if DelBoy is to get his first major win of his career now would be the time.

Niko1209 wrote:I think Wilder vs Chisora would be a very entertaining Fight , especially the build-up to this Fight , both Fighters are known
for entertaining press conferences.
I hope that Chisora will win that time against Helenius and i think he is the favourite , because he had the much better Opponents in the last
couple of years , and gained a lot of experience

He also gained a lot of losses; he's never won a single step up fight in his career.

Thats right , but he only lost to Elite Fighters like Vitali Klitschko,David Haye and Tyson Fury and his loss against Dillian Whyte was questionable.
I think even when you lose , you can gain a lot of experience , especially when you constantly fights against the best of the best.

I agree, but, it still doesn't change the fact that he's never beaten someone classed above him. He's also got a lot of wear and tear, but then again the same can be said for Helenius. That's why this fight is intriguing.

I’m hoping that Dereck Chisora can motivate himself to get below 240lbs and stop Robert Helenius on his home turf, because the rewards for doing so are great.

If 'Del Boy' can somehow find a way to defeat the Swedish giant, then he’ll remain on course for an eagerly-anticipated rematch against Dillian Whyte, which may even big enough to headline a PPV event.

Enlightened-One wrote:I’m hoping that Dereck Chisora can motivate himself to get below 240lbs and stop Robert Helenius on his home turf, because the rewards for doing so are great.

If 'Del Boy' can somehow find a way to defeat the Swedish giant, then he’ll remain on course for an eagerly-anticipated rematch against Dillian Whyte, which may even big enough to headline a PPV event.

I wonder if Whyte is kicking himself yet; obviously there is still an opportunity for him to land a bigger fight than this, but Chisora has clearly moved on to bigger things while Whyte is apparently sitting on the sidelines waiting.

I think either it will be a close Fight or Chisora will win it very clear , I like the Guy , he is entertaining.
Chisora is not scared of anyone , he doesnt duck anyone , he comes in the ring to fight.
He doesnt give a sh** , if he win or lose, therefore i hope he wins that fight , he deserves it

punchoutsb wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:I’m hoping that Dereck Chisora can motivate himself to get below 240lbs and stop Robert Helenius on his home turf, because the rewards for doing so are great.

If 'Del Boy' can somehow find a way to defeat the Swedish giant, then he’ll remain on course for an eagerly-anticipated rematch against Dillian Whyte, which may even big enough to headline a PPV event.

I wonder if Whyte is kicking himself yet; obviously there is still an opportunity for him to land a bigger fight than this, but Chisora has clearly moved on to bigger things while Whyte is apparently sitting on the sidelines waiting.

I don’t really blame Dillian Whyte for his inactivity, because he was heavily-rumoured to replace Alexander Povetkin in the WBC’s championship eliminator against Bermane Stiverne, with the winner guaranteed a shot at Deontay Wilder’s world title. However, this fell through.

More recently, Whyte has been trying in vain to drum-up enough publicity to face Tony Bellew, which would be perceived as a pretty big fight in the UK, but his attempts seem futile to me, since I don’t think that he’s even on the Liverpudlian’s radar.

Enlightened-One wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:I’m hoping that Dereck Chisora can motivate himself to get below 240lbs and stop Robert Helenius on his home turf, because the rewards for doing so are great.

If 'Del Boy' can somehow find a way to defeat the Swedish giant, then he’ll remain on course for an eagerly-anticipated rematch against Dillian Whyte, which may even big enough to headline a PPV event.

I wonder if Whyte is kicking himself yet; obviously there is still an opportunity for him to land a bigger fight than this, but Chisora has clearly moved on to bigger things while Whyte is apparently sitting on the sidelines waiting.

I don’t really blame Dillian Whyte for his inactivity, because he was heavily-rumoured to replace Alexander Povetkin in the WBC’s championship eliminator against Bermane Stiverne, with the winner guaranteed a shot at Deontay Wilder’s world title. However, this fell through.

More recently, Whyte has been trying in vain to drum-up enough publicity to face Tony Bellew, which would be perceived as a pretty big fight in the UK, but his attempts seem futile to me, since I don’t think that he’s even on the Liverpudlian’s radar.

I don't blame him either, but with this fight being for a bogus silver title I imagine the winner becomes the instant mandatory for Wilder after the Stiverne 2 crapfest no one wants. I have a hard time imagining Whyte will be able to find a setup as good as this for his next fight either financially or ranking wise.

Chisora wins

A true crossroads fight if there was one.... Helenius is 2-1 in his last three, and Chisora is 1-2 in his last three....

I have no idea why some people are acting like Helenius might win this. Since Helenius's shoulder injury, his best win is against Michael Sprott and his worse loss is against Johann Duhaupas. Helenius is basically about #35 in this division, whereas Chisora is closer to #15-20. Pre-injury Helenius would likely beat Chisora in a rematch, but post-injury Helenius is going to be a clear underdog.

Enlightened-One wrote:I’m hoping that Dereck Chisora can motivate himself to get below 240lbs and stop Robert Helenius on his home turf, because the rewards for doing so are great.

If 'Del Boy' can somehow find a way to defeat the Swedish giant, then he’ll remain on course for an eagerly-anticipated rematch against Dillian Whyte, which may even big enough to headline a PPV event.

Is he not from Finland?

Whoever wins, it will be the best result of their career.

I can't get behind Chisora unfortunately, because although he is entertaining he behaves like an absolute prat.

Lackeos wrote:I have no idea why some people are acting like Helenius might win this. Since Helenius's shoulder injury, his best win is against Michael Sprott and his worse loss is against Johann Duhaupas. Helenius is basically about #35 in this division, whereas Chisora is closer to #15-20. Pre-injury Helenius would likely beat Chisora in a rematch, but post-injury Helenius is going to be a clear underdog.

It because Chisora is the biggest choker in the HW division and has been since his first step up fight. While I agree post injury/layoff Helenius has never returned to form, there's a reason why they picked DelBoy.

Gnome wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:I’m hoping that Dereck Chisora can motivate himself to get below 240lbs and stop Robert Helenius on his home turf, because the rewards for doing so are great.

If 'Del Boy' can somehow find a way to defeat the Swedish giant, then he’ll remain on course for an eagerly-anticipated rematch against Dillian Whyte, which may even big enough to headline a PPV event.

Is he not from Finland?

Whoever wins, it will be the best result of their career.

I can't get behind Chisora unfortunately, because although he is entertaining he behaves like an absolute prat.

He was born in Sweden but he is Finnish and lives and trains in Finland. Obviously this will be a hometown fight for him.

I wouldn't consider Chisora a choker. Given his abilities, he did fairly well in his steps up, it's just that he was unfortunate to lose highly debatable decisions, or to run into elite fighters who were simply better than him.

Gnome wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:I’m hoping that Dereck Chisora can motivate himself to get below 240lbs and stop Robert Helenius on his home turf, because the rewards for doing so are great.

If 'Del Boy' can somehow find a way to defeat the Swedish giant, then he’ll remain on course for an eagerly-anticipated rematch against Dillian Whyte, which may even big enough to headline a PPV event.

Is he not from Finland?

He was born in Sweden but resides in Finland.

I don't believe boxing has that much of a history in Sweden since the sport was banned as recently as 2006, which meant that Swedish fighters like Robert Helenius and Badou Jack had to travel abroad to receive proper training/management.

punchoutsb wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:I’m hoping that Dereck Chisora can motivate himself to get below 240lbs and stop Robert Helenius on his home turf, because the rewards for doing so are great.

If 'Del Boy' can somehow find a way to defeat the Swedish giant, then he’ll remain on course for an eagerly-anticipated rematch against Dillian Whyte, which may even big enough to headline a PPV event.

I wonder if Whyte is kicking himself yet; obviously there is still an opportunity for him to land a bigger fight than this, but Chisora has clearly moved on to bigger things while Whyte is apparently sitting on the sidelines waiting.

I don't think Whyte wanted the rematch. He's looking at the likes of Ortiz or someone of that ilk.

IT wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:I’m hoping that Dereck Chisora can motivate himself to get below 240lbs and stop Robert Helenius on his home turf, because the rewards for doing so are great.

If 'Del Boy' can somehow find a way to defeat the Swedish giant, then he’ll remain on course for an eagerly-anticipated rematch against Dillian Whyte, which may even big enough to headline a PPV event.

I wonder if Whyte is kicking himself yet; obviously there is still an opportunity for him to land a bigger fight than this, but Chisora has clearly moved on to bigger things while Whyte is apparently sitting on the sidelines waiting.

I don't think Whyte wanted the rematch. He's looking at the likes of Ortiz or someone of that ilk.

I agree, but now Chisora lands a fight which will probably pay pretty well, and has a high ranking as a reward. If Whyte can't land Ortiz or someone like that in an eliminator I don't think his money making and career advancement options will be as good as this fight. As of right now it appears he'd have been better off taking the rematch. Of course all that can change at any point.

punchoutsb wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:I’m hoping that Dereck Chisora can motivate himself to get below 240lbs and stop Robert Helenius on his home turf, because the rewards for doing so are great.

If 'Del Boy' can somehow find a way to defeat the Swedish giant, then he’ll remain on course for an eagerly-anticipated rematch against Dillian Whyte, which may even big enough to headline a PPV event.

I wonder if Whyte is kicking himself yet; obviously there is still an opportunity for him to land a bigger fight than this, but Chisora has clearly moved on to bigger things while Whyte is apparently sitting on the sidelines waiting.

I'm not sure I would consider going back to Helenius as 'bigger things'. If Whyte was fighting Helenius, it would only be a sideways step. He's clearly trying to grab the attention of Wilder, or thinking about how he can get himself into a mandatory position. I'd like to see him step in with someone like Pulev, perhaps cement that WBC mandatory spot, but I don't know how realistic that is.

Rob3_142 wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:I’m hoping that Dereck Chisora can motivate himself to get below 240lbs and stop Robert Helenius on his home turf, because the rewards for doing so are great.

If 'Del Boy' can somehow find a way to defeat the Swedish giant, then he’ll remain on course for an eagerly-anticipated rematch against Dillian Whyte, which may even big enough to headline a PPV event.

I wonder if Whyte is kicking himself yet; obviously there is still an opportunity for him to land a bigger fight than this, but Chisora has clearly moved on to bigger things while Whyte is apparently sitting on the sidelines waiting.

I'm not sure I would consider going back to Helenius as 'bigger things'. If Whyte was fighting Helenius, it would only be a sideways step. He's clearly trying to grab the attention of Wilder, or thinking about how he can get himself into a mandatory position. I'd like to see him step in with someone like Pulev, perhaps cement that WBC mandatory spot, but I don't know how realistic that is.

This is for the WBC Silver Title which should bring a mandatory spot with it.

punchoutsb wrote:

Rob3_142 wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:
I wonder if Whyte is kicking himself yet; obviously there is still an opportunity for him to land a bigger fight than this, but Chisora has clearly moved on to bigger things while Whyte is apparently sitting on the sidelines waiting.

I'm not sure I would consider going back to Helenius as 'bigger things'. If Whyte was fighting Helenius, it would only be a sideways step. He's clearly trying to grab the attention of Wilder, or thinking about how he can get himself into a mandatory position. I'd like to see him step in with someone like Pulev, perhaps cement that WBC mandatory spot, but I don't know how realistic that is.

This is for the WBC Silver Title which should bring a mandatory spot with it.

Yeah right! Thought the Whyte-Chisora was a WBC eliminator fight? How can you lose an eliminator, but another fight later find yourself in a mandatory position? If Chisora wins this fight, then I think only serves to put him back where he was before the Whyte fight, and that is back in the middle of the pack.

From the current murmurs it sounds like Stiverne/Breazeale will be next in line. If Wilder fights Stiverne, I'd expect Whyte to fight Breazeale for the next mandatory position.

Another easy payday for Wilder but at least Del would come to fight. Helenius would be fortunate to hear the bell for round 3.