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A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 09:09
by magwitch
Ok let me explain. The other day one of these social media boxing pages had a Barrera Hamed video up.
We all know that Hamed was not at his best (nowhere even
close to his best, depending who you listen to) - in that respect it says something about how good you are if you can hang 12 with Barrera whilst not training right.
But - let’s suppose that a peak Naseem had (I said let’s suppose) that he had taken out Barrera. That for me would have been a remarkable victory!
So it got me thinking......are there some examples where an A class fighter has come up against another A class fighter and completely flipped them over? I’m talking about winning a bit of a one-sided contest against another A* class fighter?
There must be some. To kick off - for example - what about Vernon Forest doing a complete and utter job on Shane Moseley?
Say some more...
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 09:13
by magwitch
I’m gonna throw Holyfield Tyson I in there. From what I can remember, mostly one way traffic.
Was Mike still “top class” at that time though? I can’t remember.
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 09:22
by forcefraser
Calzaghe v lacy? Although with hindsight Lacy was no A class fighter
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 09:25
by Ezzard
Hearns-Cuevas
Hearns-Duran
Nunn-Kalambay
Honeyghan-Curry
Sanchez-Gomez
Pac-Hatton
Foreman-Frazier
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 09:28
by dookus
Wright v Trinidad
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 09:31
by TheLeprechaun
Lomachenko vs Russell jr
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 09:39
by lillywhite14
Ezzard wrote:Hearns-Cuevas
Hearns-Duran
Nunn-Kalambay
Honeyghan-Curry
Sanchez-Gomez
Pac-Hatton
Foreman-Frazier
Foreman - Frazier has to be the best ever example of this
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 09:43
by Nightmare Roy
Maidana vs Broner

Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 09:46
by BitPlayer
Mayweather Vs Pretty much everyone.
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 09:56
by magwitch
Ezzard wrote:Hearns-Cuevas
Hearns-Duran
Nunn-Kalambay
Honeyghan-Curry
Sanchez-Gomez
Pac-Hatton
Foreman-Frazier
Foreman Frazier is
exactly the kind of thing I’m talking about. Good one
Another example (maybe) is where that Lopez fella came out and spanked Daniel Ponce De Leon in about 2 minutes flat.
Personally, I thought De Leon looked kind of cumbersome - but he’d made about 5 defences of a world title I think...
Lopez came unstuck further down the road I think, but that night he looked as slick as it gets!
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 10:00
by magwitch
Nightmare Roy wrote:Maidana vs Broner

Another good one

.....say what you like about Broner, but he’s competent in there. Good example. And completely one sided.
Michael Watson could be regarded as class, but I read his book and that Bodysnatcher guy beat him. McCallum. Not sure if it was by a margin tho........in fact you could put Michael Watson - Nigel Benn into this for me. Absolutely stood him on his head and then finished him - with a jab!
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 10:02
by Counter-puncher
dookus wrote:Wright v Trinidad
One of my favourites, Death by Jab.
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 10:03
by Counter-puncher
magwitch wrote:
Michael Watson could be regarded as class, but I read his book and that Bodysnatcher guy beat him. McCallum. Not sure if it was by a margin tho........!
McCallum was (at least) a class above Watson, he brutalised him
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 10:05
by brilo33
Joe smith jr put Hopkins in his place
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 10:05
by magwitch
Counter-puncher wrote:magwitch wrote:
Michael Watson could be regarded as class, but I read his book and that Bodysnatcher guy beat him. McCallum. Not sure if it was by a margin tho........!
McCallum was (at least) a class above Watson, he brutalised him
Watson had a reason in his book. It was on, then off, then on again when he was injured....but they always seem to have a reason.
Froch said the location helped him to lose to Andre Ward
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Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 10:06
by magwitch
brilo33 wrote:Joe smith jr put Hopkins in his place
True, but Hopkins was only A* in name by that point, surely.
Hopkins - Pavlik? Maybe.
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 10:11
by Counter-puncher
magwitch wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:magwitch wrote:
Michael Watson could be regarded as class, but I read his book and that Bodysnatcher guy beat him. McCallum. Not sure if it was by a margin tho........!
McCallum was (at least) a class above Watson, he brutalised him
Watson had a reason in his book. It was on, then off, then on again when he was injured....but they always seem to have a reason.
Froch said the location helped him to lose to Andre Ward
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To be fair facing a peak McCallum after 13 months or so out of the ring couldn't have been ideal but the result wouldn't have been changed in the slightest
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 10:17
by magwitch
Caballero - Molitor was a one sided 4 rounds, apparently. Too tall, too long arms.
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 10:28
by deadpan
Hopkins-Trinidad
Pacman-De la Hoya
Mayweather-Corrales
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 10:30
by Boxerbeetle
Jones-Toney?
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 10:30
by Syntax Error
Max Schmeling v Joe Louis 1
Joe Louis v Max Schmeling 2
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 10:31
by Syntax Error
Boxerbeetle wrote:Jones-Toney?
First class example.
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 10:34
by magwitch
deadpan wrote:Hopkins-Trinidad
Pacman-De la Hoya
Mayweather-Corrales
Wasn’t De La Hoya a shell that night, undone by weight or something. He barely threw a punch and it was his last fight....I think.
Although Pacman did look bull strong. He couldn’t miss.
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 10:58
by MightyWarrior
ALI / FOREMAN
Re: A fighter put a top level fighter in place. Give examples.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 11:03
by ElJefe
Boxerbeetle wrote:Jones-Toney?
Beat me to it. Jones was untouchable in his prime.
Jones-Hopkins as well, although Hopkins wasn't really at his best at that point.