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Even if Golovkin would T/K.O Saunders, Jacobs II and Jermall, there is no doubt that these performances won't match a big-clean victory over Canelo. Like it or not, Canelo is the man to beat. Too bad, Oscar is waiting that Golovkin to turn 40 y/o.

Unless GingerHead gets beat along the way. SRL would have been Hagler's defining W, but the L really has not hurt him.

Hopefully Canelo stops jumping weight divisions and plays his part getting the fight made

..all things considered, GGG's team should be ready to make a compromise and agree to Oscar's demands. Canelo can run but he can't hide...They should get that fight, once/if they win it, Golovkin will be in driver's seat dictating his conditions to all and sundry..

greg wrote:..all things considered, GGG's team should be ready to make a compromise and agree to Oscar's demands. Canelo can run but he can't hide...They should get that fight, once/if they win it, Golovkin will be in driver's seat dictating his conditions to all and sundry..

True.

As far as career defining victories go The Star Power of the opponent is usually the biggest factor. Hardcore fans know and respect the other serious contenders, but most people only recognize other big names or star fighters.

That's why in spite of Hopkins' brilliant resume his 2 most significant wins are still Tito and De La Hoya.

He beat other guys that could've beaten them both, but those are always gonna be THE 2 biggest wins on his record.

apollo creed wrote:Even if Golovkin would T/K.O Saunders, Jacobs II and Jermall, there is no doubt that these performances won't match a big-clean victory over Canelo. Like it or not, Canelo is the man to beat. Too bad, Oscar is waiting that Golovkin to turn 40 y/o.

Golden Boy have already submitted multiple offers to K2 to arrange a fight between Canelo and GGG, but you don't want to acknowledge that do you, since it doesn't fit your preferred narrative?

Enlightened-One wrote:

apollo creed wrote:Even if Golovkin would T/K.O Saunders, Jacobs II and Jermall, there is no doubt that these performances won't match a big-clean victory over Canelo. Like it or not, Canelo is the man to beat. Too bad, Oscar is waiting that Golovkin to turn 40 y/o.

Golden Boy have already submitted multiple offers to K2 to arrange a fight between Canelo and GGG, but you don't want to acknowledge that do you, since it doesn't fit your preferred narrative?

60-40 % or at least 65-35% from all money (PPV's, tickets, TV rights , etc) is a fair offer.

apollo creed wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

apollo creed wrote:Even if Golovkin would T/K.O Saunders, Jacobs II and Jermall, there is no doubt that these performances won't match a big-clean victory over Canelo. Like it or not, Canelo is the man to beat. Too bad, Oscar is waiting that Golovkin to turn 40 y/o.

Golden Boy have already submitted multiple offers to K2 to arrange a fight between Canelo and GGG, but you don't want to acknowledge that do you, since it doesn't fit your preferred narrative?

60-40 % or at least 65-35% from all money (PPV's, tickets, TV rights , etc) is a fair offer.

In terms of commercial numbers, GGG probably deserves less than 30%, since GBP is taking the financial risk by promoting and funding the event and Canelo is a far more popular fighter than Golovkin. K2 won't even have to lift a finger.

Enlightened-One wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: Golden Boy have already submitted multiple offers to K2 to arrange a fight between Canelo and GGG, but you don't want to acknowledge that do you, since it doesn't fit your preferred narrative?

60-40 % or at least 65-35% from all money (PPV's, tickets, TV rights , etc) is a fair offer.

In terms of commercial numbers, GGG probably deserves less than 30%, since GBP is taking the financial risk by promoting and funding the event and Canelo is a far more popular fighter than Golovkin. K2 won't even have to lift a finger.

Fan base shouldn't decide split. I understand it's a business, but the unified champion deserves more respect

My opinion, Canelo didn't want it, but after the close Jacobs fight he's getting keener

Ossyrules wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

apollo creed wrote:
60-40 % or at least 65-35% from all money (PPV's, tickets, TV rights , etc) is a fair offer.

In terms of commercial numbers, GGG probably deserves less than 30%, since GBP is taking the financial risk by promoting and funding the event and Canelo is a far more popular fighter than Golovkin. K2 won't even have to lift a finger.

Fan base shouldn't decide split. I understand it's a business, but the unified champion deserves more respect

My opinion, Canelo didn't want it, but after the close Jacobs fight he's getting keener

We know of two offers that GBP have made to K2.

We don't know of any counter offers that Tom Loeffler has submitted to Oscar De La Hoya.

Please check this yourself and get back to me, because your opinion is solely based on guesswork.

Enlightened-One wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: In terms of commercial numbers, GGG probably deserves less than 30%, since GBP is taking the financial risk by promoting and funding the event and Canelo is a far more popular fighter than Golovkin. K2 won't even have to lift a finger.

Fan base shouldn't decide split. I understand it's a business, but the unified champion deserves more respect

My opinion, Canelo didn't want it, but after the close Jacobs fight he's getting keener

We know of two offers that GBP have made to K2.

We don't know of any counter offers that Tom Loeffler has submitted to Oscar De La Hoya.

Please check this yourself and get back to me, because your opinion is solely based on guesswork.

Amir Khan submitted an offer to Brook. Doesn't mean he wanted it

Now fornicate off you sanctimonious twat

Ossyrules wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
Fan base shouldn't decide split. I understand it's a business, but the unified champion deserves more respect

My opinion, Canelo didn't want it, but after the close Jacobs fight he's getting keener

We know of two offers that GBP have made to K2.

We don't know of any counter offers that Tom Loeffler has submitted to Oscar De La Hoya.

Please check this yourself and get back to me, because your opinion is solely based on guesswork.

Amir Khan submitted an offer to Brook. Doesn't mean he wanted it

Now eff off you sanctimonious twat

So you resort to insults rather than educating yourself on the reality of the situation?

Good for you kid!

Enlightened-One wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: We know of two offers that GBP have made to K2.

We don't know of any counter offers that Tom Loeffler has submitted to Oscar De La Hoya.

Please check this yourself and get back to me, because your opinion is solely based on guesswork.

Amir Khan submitted an offer to Brook. Doesn't mean he wanted it

Now eff off you sanctimonious twat

So you resort to insults rather than educating yourself on the reality of the situation?

Good for you kid!

Needed to communicate in words you'd understand

Without GGG, Oscar and Canelo won't make that big money , so at least 65-35% from all fight incomes should be a decent offer for GGG.

It is a super fight and the most lucrative fight that can be made in Boxing now and for the foreseeable future, that's for sure. It will be both guys defining career moment and there's too much money on the line for it not to happen. BUT, Canelo is going to have his hands full with a bigger, dangerous and focused JCCJR. That fight is going to be tough enough on Canelo without also having the pressure of screwing up a huge payday with GGG in a loss.

I know...Canelo SHOULD win this fight. Some would say easily but not me. I think that this is going to be an excellent battle and I would not be astonished if JCCJR finds a way to pull it off. It's his last chance at remaining relevant and there's Mexican pride at the highest level on the line. No way will this fight be easy.

caldo2025 wrote:It is a super fight and the most lucrative fight that can be made in Boxing now and for the foreseeable future, that's for sure. It will be both guys defining career moment and there's too much money on the line for it not to happen. BUT, Canelo is going to have his hands full with a bigger, dangerous and focused JCCJR. That fight is going to be tough enough on Canelo without also having the pressure of screwing up a huge payday with GGG in a loss.

I know...Canelo SHOULD win this fight. Some would say easily but not me. I think that this is going to be an excellent battle and I would not be astonished if JCCJR finds a way to pull it off. It's his last chance at remaining relevant and there's Mexican pride at the highest level on the line. No way will this fight be easy.

i'm really hoping chavez jr can pull it off

Oiky wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:It is a super fight and the most lucrative fight that can be made in Boxing now and for the foreseeable future, that's for sure. It will be both guys defining career moment and there's too much money on the line for it not to happen. BUT, Canelo is going to have his hands full with a bigger, dangerous and focused JCCJR. That fight is going to be tough enough on Canelo without also having the pressure of screwing up a huge payday with GGG in a loss.

I know...Canelo SHOULD win this fight. Some would say easily but not me. I think that this is going to be an excellent battle and I would not be astonished if JCCJR finds a way to pull it off. It's his last chance at remaining relevant and there's Mexican pride at the highest level on the line. No way will this fight be easy.

i'm really hoping chavez jr can pull it off

I would also enjoy seeing diva # 2 supplant the royal Mexican diva, but Chavez Jr. will be severely drained and over trained. You also cannot turn heart on and off like a light switch.

Canelo may suffer a series of losses at 160 and above, so a win over him wouldn't be anybody's career defining fight.

Golovkin vs. Canelo is a super-fight between two PPV fighters that are both rated within the top-ten pound-for-pound list that have also competed in a combined total of thirty world title fights.

Alvarez first captured a world title more than six years ago, whilst GGG competed in his first semi-legitimate world title fight three months prior. And the boxing world has been eagerly awaiting this bout for almost 18 months.

This is a career-defining fight for both men, no matter how you window dress it!

boxing_rocks wrote:Canelo may suffer a series of losses at 160 and above, so a win over him wouldn't be anybody's career defining fight.

Canelo is a tough ginger to beat.

Ward/Kovalev better wins if he did beat them

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Ward/Kovalev better wins if he did beat them

Klitchko/Joshua are even better ones.

find it weird that folks in here is believing that gingerchick is number one draw. for at least the last three years golovkins name is far better known and remarked. outside the states and mexico everybody knows who golovkin is. only diehard fans knows who canelo is. k2 will never accept the demands and cuts that hoya is rambling off of him. and why shoulg they. canelo is a joke by now. fight want happen. it no longer has any meaning. or at least the meaning it had before people found out who the fighters really were.

Tanzio wrote:

Oiky wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:It is a super fight and the most lucrative fight that can be made in Boxing now and for the foreseeable future, that's for sure. It will be both guys defining career moment and there's too much money on the line for it not to happen. BUT, Canelo is going to have his hands full with a bigger, dangerous and focused JCCJR. That fight is going to be tough enough on Canelo without also having the pressure of screwing up a huge payday with GGG in a loss.

I know...Canelo SHOULD win this fight. Some would say easily but not me. I think that this is going to be an excellent battle and I would not be astonished if JCCJR finds a way to pull it off. It's his last chance at remaining relevant and there's Mexican pride at the highest level on the line. No way will this fight be easy.

i'm really hoping chavez jr can pull it off

I would also enjoy seeing diva # 2 supplant the royal Mexican diva, but Chavez Jr. will be severely drained and over trained. You also cannot turn heart on and off like a light switch.

David Haye would like to disagree with that light switch of yours.