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Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 08:18
by TheGingerBomber
Extremely strong division at domestic level, but at world? Well the proof is in some of the names, John Molina Jnr no.4 according to BoxRec.
In the top 40 Britain have 6 fighters, 1 in the top 10, Ricky Burns. Others in top 30 are Ohara, Davies Jnr, Nurse & Catterall.
Whilst they're all solid fighters, Nurse is still British champ! And he's in the top 20 I believe. I'm only going off of boxrec like I say, but it's telling!
Crawford has seemingly no competition, Postol is possibly the best of the rest, there's a lot of good prospects away from the British bunch that may set the division on fire, such as Orozco, Lipinets, Baranchyk & Ulysses.
It's in a weird transition period that has Burns or Indongo as a unified champ!
What you's think of this division, I'm personally just hoping we get the domestic dust ups we crave, like Catterall vs Nurse, Ohara vs Taylor, etc.
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 08:47
by Stuarty
Strange the way things have panned out in this division but I still think it's a decent division to be fair. Broner and Crawford make it a good division.
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 08:47
by darkstar81
Straw weight
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 09:12
by TheGingerBomber
Stuarty30 wrote:Strange the way things have panned out in this division but I still think it's a decent division to be fair. Broner and Crawford make it a good division.
I forgot Diaz who I like, but I'd wonder what would happen if he fought Postol who's massive
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 09:16
by Stuarty
TheGingerBomber wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Strange the way things have panned out in this division but I still think it's a decent division to be fair. Broner and Crawford make it a good division.
I forgot Diaz who I like, but I'd wonder what would happen if he fought Postol who's massive
Battle of the jabs against Postol.
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 10:21
by littlepug
darkstar81 wrote:Straw weight
yeah no name fighters to prop it up, superfly is the poster division for the lower weights
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 10:23
by davie
Stuarty30 wrote:Strange the way things have panned out in this division but I still think it's a decent division to be fair. Broner and Crawford make it a good division.
If Broner is the best the division has to offer, I would argue the opposite
Crawford is a p4p contender, If he steps up to WW, which I'm surprised he hasn't, then it's a pretty dire division
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 10:34
by Tarkus
140 is a good example of what happenes when a strong fighter comes along and cleans up the division. Crawford has noone to fight.
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 10:42
by SaadOffTheDeck
Heavyweight
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 11:08
by HyacinthusTurnipseed
I think Broner is staying at Welterweight now. Though I keep hearing Barthelemy is going up to 140 (hasn't happened yet). Whatever happened to Omar Figueroa by the way?
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 11:09
by littlepug
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Heavyweight
we have a winner !

to be honest I didn't even think about the heavies (I rarely do), ive seen feeble arguments about how the divisions getting better but in truth the 90s was the last good era for heavies and since then the guys are bigger physically but their skill sets are woeful
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 11:28
by stujones
My own computer does not recognised Super Lightweight..... I'm sure Ricky Hatton wouldn't liked to be called a Super Lightweight.
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 11:34
by CaptainSpacerod
Ring have Jack Catterall ranked at 8.
Wtf.
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 14:51
by Ossyrules
Divisions go through cycles. Crawford is p4p but there's not a lot else. He's carrying it.
When it had Bradley, Khan, Garcia etc it was a pretty competitive division with decent depth too, at the top, with the likes of Peterson, Alexander etc
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 17:40
by TheGingerBomber
Tarkus wrote:140 is a good example of what happenes when a strong fighter comes along and cleans up the division. Crawford has noone to fight.
Not doubting Crawford at all but with what he has in front of him, I'm shocked he hasn't moved up yet! Especially with a Pac fight there (apparently), that makes him a star.
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 17:41
by TheGingerBomber
HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote:I think Broner is staying at Welterweight now. Though I keep hearing Barthelemy is going up to 140 (hasn't happened yet). Whatever happened to Omar Figueroa by the way?
I'm pretty sure Figueroa's last fight was at light middleweight!
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 17:43
by TheGingerBomber
stujones wrote:My own computer does not recognised Super Lightweight..... I'm sure Ricky Hatton wouldn't liked to be called a Super Lightweight.
Apologies, I was in two minds whether I should refer to it as that or light welter, I chose wrong!
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 17:44
by TheGingerBomber
Ossyrules wrote:Divisions go through cycles. Crawford is p4p but there's not a lot else. He's carrying it.
When it had Bradley, Khan, Garcia etc it was a pretty competitive division with decent depth too, at the top, with the likes of Peterson, Alexander etc
That would make it solid, I just think like you say, it's in a bit of a lull at the minute, I doubt the worst division status will last long!
I don't know any straweights I don't think!
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 18:10
by Counter-puncher
HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote: Whatever happened to Omar Figueroa by the way?
He was always a bit sh1t, and he never got much better?
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 18:12
by SaadOffTheDeck
He was injured, don't remember exactly what.a lot of pbc fighters sit around.
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 12 Apr 2017, 22:21
by HyacinthusTurnipseed
Counter-puncher wrote:HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote: Whatever happened to Omar Figueroa by the way?
He was always a bit sh1t, and he never got much better?
Maybe he wasn't great but but he wasn't bad - would happily watch him against Broner or Lamont Peterson or test an up-and-comer like Frankie Gomez or Egidijus Kavaliauskas or someone like that.
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 03:27
by Boxing Prospect
Figueroa has been plagued by hand issues...happens when bang Arakawa's rock head.
I think 135 is terrible my self. Linares and Garcia are class, it the rest of the division is less than inspiring, 140 ain't great
As for whoever mentions strawweight, it's a pretty strange time down there. You have two Thai's (Wanheng Menayothin and Knockout CP Freshmart) who will almost certainly not face off, Takayama has just retired. And the division has a lot of exciting talent (Fukuhara, Kyoguchi, Koura, Jerusalem,Konishi, Juarez, Buitrago,Khonco, Rojas...). Not the deepest division but a nicely poised one
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 03:56
by keirw
Without Crawford there isn't much else to get excited about, but I'm sure Garcia will move up soon, and hopefully while Crawford is still there.
Some good fights domestically, whoever climbs the pile (either Davis or Taylor) could find themselves in a decent position.
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 06:43
by Stuarty
davie wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Strange the way things have panned out in this division but I still think it's a decent division to be fair. Broner and Crawford make it a good division.
If Broner is the best the division has to offer, I would argue the opposite
Crawford is a p4p contender, If he steps up to WW, which I'm surprised he hasn't, then it's a pretty dire division
Crawford is obviously the top dog but if he does move up (sooner the better IMO) then I'd say Broner is probably the next best guy. Don't get me wrong, I hate the little odious twerp but on his game he's a force at 140. I'd heavily favour him against Burns but if Ricky were to beat him personally it would rank amongst my best nights as a boxing fan.
Re: Worst Division - Super Lightweight?
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 07:09
by PredatorHayds
Stuarty30 wrote:davie wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Strange the way things have panned out in this division but I still think it's a decent division to be fair. Broner and Crawford make it a good division.
If Broner is the best the division has to offer, I would argue the opposite
Crawford is a p4p contender, If he steps up to WW, which I'm surprised he hasn't, then it's a pretty dire division
Crawford is obviously the top dog but if he does move up (sooner the better IMO) then I'd say Broner is probably the next best guy. Don't get me wrong, I hate the little odious twerp but on his game he's a force at 140. I'd heavily favour him against Burns but if Ricky were to beat him personally it would rank amongst my best nights as a boxing fan.
Agree. IF Broner gets to 140 and it's a big if with his dedication, I'd suggest he can give Crawford a competitive fight. He would be the second best guy in the division IMO.