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Supposing they are healthy, what do you think about their chances to become undisputed champions in the near future (let us say two years) ?
This is my list :
Lomachenko (130) : 95 %
Lomachenko (135) : 40 %
M. Garcia (135) : 40 %
Crawford (140 ) : 70 %
Indongo (140) : 10 %
Golovkin (160) : 50 %
Usyk (200) : 85 %
Briedis (200) : 5 %
Gassiev (200) : 5 %
Joshua (+200) : 60 %
Klitschko (+200) : 15 %
Wilder (+200) : 10 %

Define undisputed.

Does undisputed mean simultaneaously possess all four major sanctioning body belts(WBC,WBA,WBO, IBF)?
Does undisputed mean being universally recognized by boxing media as THE champion of a division regardless of belts?
Does undisputed also include the mythical linear title?

Perseus wrote:Define undisputed.

Does undisputed mean simultaneaously possess all four major sanctioning body belts(WBC,WBA,WBO, IBF)?
Does undisputed mean being universally recognized by boxing media as THE champion of a division regardless of belts?
Does undisputed also include the mythical linear title?

...All four major sanctioning body belts - WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF....

Wilder 10%? But you don't name Fury at all?

ValMar wrote:

Perseus wrote:Define undisputed.

Does undisputed mean simultaneaously possess all four major sanctioning body belts(WBC,WBA,WBO, IBF)?
Does undisputed mean being universally recognized by boxing media as THE champion of a division regardless of belts?
Does undisputed also include the mythical linear title?

...All four major sanctioning body belts - WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF....

That one is actually the hardest to achieve due to boxing politics.
I would say Crawford and Indongo have the best chance since it only requires one fight to happen.
One of them(Indongo) is already a bit of a road warrior so travel shouldn't be an issue and the other has network money backing him so it seems it like shouldn't be too tough to put together.
It's also a fight that has zero chance of being a mainstream massive blockbuster. No need to "let it marinate" for a year or two just have them go straight to each other.

asdfjkl wrote:Wilder 10%? But you don't name Fury at all?

H. Fury has 0,00001 % chance....
T. Fury is not an active fighter now, as I know....

ValMar wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Wilder 10%? But you don't name Fury at all?

H. Fury has 0,00001 % chance....
T. Fury is not an active fighter now, as I know....

But Klitschko is?

Tbh.. Crawford is the most likely.. he's 2 fights away.. he gets past Diaz and his next fight could be Indongo.. 6 belts, 4 major world titles

Loma only holds 1 title, he most likely will move once he captures just 1 more belt..

asdfjkl wrote:

ValMar wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Wilder 10%? But you don't name Fury at all?

H. Fury has 0,00001 % chance....
T. Fury is not an active fighter now, as I know....

But Klitschko is?

Yes, and if he is able to beat Joshua....We can expect fights against Parker and Wilder....

ValMar wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

ValMar wrote:
H. Fury has 0,00001 % chance....
T. Fury is not an active fighter now, as I know....

But Klitschko is?

Yes, and if he is able to beat Joshua....We can expect fights against Parker and Wilder....

I would be highly surprised if Wlad can win against AJ, Wlad is about just as active as Tyson and Wilder would never dare to fight him.

asdfjkl wrote:

ValMar wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Wilder 10%? But you don't name Fury at all?

H. Fury has 0,00001 % chance....
T. Fury is not an active fighter now, as I know....

But Klitschko is?

Klitschko has only been inactive as long as he has because Tyson Fury kept backing out of their rematch. If all had gone according to plan he'd have fought last July.

Lomachenko (130) : 5%
Lomachenko (135) : 3%
M. Garcia (135) : 5%
Crawford (140 ) : 50%
Indongo (140) : 0%
Golovkin (160) : 70%
Usyk (200) : 10%
Briedis (200) : 10%
Gassiev (200) : 10%
Joshua (+200) : 25%
Klitschko (+200) : 0%
Wilder (+200) : 15%

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lomachenko (130) : 5%
Lomachenko (135) : 3%
M. Garcia (135) : 5%
Crawford (140 ) : 50%
Indongo (140) : 0%
Golovkin (160) : 70%
Usyk (200) : 10%
Briedis (200) : 10%
Gassiev (200) : 10%
Joshua (+200) : 25%
Klitschko (+200) : 0%
Wilder (+200) : 15%

This list is pretty accurate I figure. Usyk probably COULD unify at Cruiserweight, it's a question of whether he'd bother attempting though since he's already stated he'd like to try his hand at Heavyweight.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lomachenko (130) : 5%
Lomachenko (135) : 3%
M. Garcia (135) : 5%
Crawford (140 ) : 50%
Indongo (140) : 0%
Golovkin (160) : 70%
Usyk (200) : 10%
Briedis (200) : 10%
Gassiev (200) : 10%
Joshua (+200) : 25%
Klitschko (+200) : 0%
Wilder (+200) : 15%

These figures are fair.

Golovkin biggest obstacle is getting BJS in the ring to fight. Then he's got the set

The next biggest obstacle for any of them is keeping 3 governing bodies happy while hunting a fourth. What the IBF did to fury was disgusting

And to anyone saying Wlad is as active as fury (whose retired), do me a favour. Wlad fought fury, then signed to fight him twice only to be let down and then signed to fight AJ for another title. Fury retired

The ironic thing is the ibf is the best of them all.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lomachenko (130) : 5%
Lomachenko (135) : 3%
M. Garcia (135) : 5%
Crawford (140 ) : 50%
Indongo (140) : 0%
Golovkin (160) : 70%
Usyk (200) : 10%
Briedis (200) : 10%
Gassiev (200) : 10%
Joshua (+200) : 25%
Klitschko (+200) : 0%
Wilder (+200) : 15%

Lomachenko (130) : 5 % ?? Would you explain me, please ? Who are the competitive opponents at 130 ? Or....You meant about dishonest promoters and their politics ?

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lomachenko (130) : 5%
Lomachenko (135) : 3%
M. Garcia (135) : 5%
Crawford (140 ) : 50%
Indongo (140) : 0%
Golovkin (160) : 70%
Usyk (200) : 10%
Briedis (200) : 10%
Gassiev (200) : 10%
Joshua (+200) : 25%
Klitschko (+200) : 0%
Wilder (+200) : 15%

Lomachenko (130) : 5 % ?? Would you explain me, please ? Who are the competitive opponents at 130 ? Or....You meant about dishonest promoters and their politics ?

He's already talking about moving up to 135. 5% is probably too high.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lomachenko (130) : 5%
Lomachenko (135) : 3%
M. Garcia (135) : 5%
Crawford (140 ) : 50%
Indongo (140) : 0%
Golovkin (160) : 70%
Usyk (200) : 10%
Briedis (200) : 10%
Gassiev (200) : 10%
Joshua (+200) : 25%
Klitschko (+200) : 0%
Wilder (+200) : 15%

Lomachenko (130) : 5 % ?? Would you explain me, please ? Who are the competitive opponents at 130 ? Or....You meant about dishonest promoters and their politics ?

He's already talking about moving up to 135. 5% is probably too high.

I haven't read this, to be honest. Anyway, at 135, he could be defeated by M. Garcia only, I can not see another competitive opponent. I agree that judges, refs, and promoters might diminish his chances at 135....

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:
Lomachenko (130) : 5 % ?? Would you explain me, please ? Who are the competitive opponents at 130 ? Or....You meant about dishonest promoters and their politics ?

He's already talking about moving up to 135. 5% is probably too high.

I haven't read this, to be honest. Anyway, at 135, he could be defeated by M. Garcia only, I can not see another competitive opponent. I agree that judges, refs, and promoters might diminish his chances at 135....

Are you confused by your own question? You have to weigh everything into it. I think there has been 1 ever? And you got 95% on a guy not even half way?

..I'm not sure how you guys come up with all these percentages

greg wrote:..I'm not sure how you guys come up with all these percentages

in actuality everyone but Crawford, indongo, ggg, bjs,, Joshua & wilder would be 0%.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
He's already talking about moving up to 135. 5% is probably too high.

I haven't read this, to be honest. Anyway, at 135, he could be defeated by M. Garcia only, I can not see another competitive opponent. I agree that judges, refs, and promoters might diminish his chances at 135....

Are you confused by your own question? You have to weigh everything into it. I think there has been 1 ever? And you got 95% on a guy not even half way?

OK, I did not read the article about Lomachenko's intention to move up at 135 soon. And, I will take a risk to be boring, but, I really consider Lomachenko invincible at 130, and almost invincible at 135 (only potential exception - M. Garcia). I can not see Linares beat Loma.

GGG/BJS and Crawford/Indongo are the only fighters currently with any sort of significant chance to win all four titles. There's a reason why undisputed champions are so rare.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

greg wrote:..I'm not sure how you guys come up with all these percentages

in actuality everyone but Crawford, indongo, ggg, bjs,, Joshua & wilder would be 0%.

SaadOffTheDeck, just imagine situation where Lomachenko stay at SFW. Would you, really, give Garcia 0% chance to become undisputed at LW ?
Who can defeat him (at 135) ? Nobody ! Simple, but true....

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

greg wrote:..I'm not sure how you guys come up with all these percentages

in actuality everyone but Crawford, indongo, ggg, bjs,, Joshua & wilder would be 0%.

SaadOffTheDeck, just imagine situation where Lomachenko stay at SFW. Would you, really, give Garcia 0% chance to become undisputed at LW ?
Who can defeat him (at 135) ? Nobody ! Simple, but true....

You didn't ask who could beat who, you asked will Linares, Easter/Shafikov, and Flanagan all end up fighting Garcia. There is a huge difference.