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Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September

Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 12:56
by apollo creed
Who beats GGG ?

Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September

Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 13:20
by gilgamesh
Can't go wrong with any of the 4 as far as quality opponents and interesting matchmaking goes. Best chance of beating GGG would definitely be Zurdo Ramirez I think, but possibly Canelo. I've still only seen Ramirez fight once, but he impressed in that one performance to the point that I think he's the top guy at Super Middleweight. Nobody seems too eager to fight him.

Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September

Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 13:21
by world ranked
gilgamesh wrote:Can't go wrong with any of the 4 as far as quality opponents and interesting matchmaking goes. Best chance of beating GGG would definitely be Zurdo Ramirez I think, but possibly Canelo. I've still only seen Ramirez fight once, but he impressed in that one performance to the point that I think he's the top guy at Super Middleweight. Nobody seems too eager to fight him.
Not Jack or Degale but Ramirez as the top guy for beting Abraham?

Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September

Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 13:23
by gilgamesh
world ranked wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Can't go wrong with any of the 4 as far as quality opponents and interesting matchmaking goes. Best chance of beating GGG would definitely be Zurdo Ramirez I think, but possibly Canelo. I've still only seen Ramirez fight once, but he impressed in that one performance to the point that I think he's the top guy at Super Middleweight. Nobody seems too eager to fight him.
Not Jack or Degale but Ramirez as the top guy for beting Abraham?
I believe Ramirez would beat Jack and Degale. Badou Jack has left the division now or I'd have him #1 as I thought he deserved the nod over Degale. Degale just always makes fights hard. He's obviously skilled, but I can't see a guy with his limitations as the #1 guy in a division with the talent Super Middleweight has. I'd like to see Degale vs Ramirez to settle it. Doesn't look like we'll be getting Degale vs Jack 2 anytime soon unfortunately.

Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September

Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 13:25
by world ranked
gilgamesh wrote:
world ranked wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Can't go wrong with any of the 4 as far as quality opponents and interesting matchmaking goes. Best chance of beating GGG would definitely be Zurdo Ramirez I think, but possibly Canelo. I've still only seen Ramirez fight once, but he impressed in that one performance to the point that I think he's the top guy at Super Middleweight. Nobody seems too eager to fight him.
Not Jack or Degale but Ramirez as the top guy for beting Abraham?
I believe Ramirez would beat Jack and Degale. Badou Jack has left the division now or I'd have him #1 as I thought he deserved the nod over Degale.
Only based on you seeing him one time?

Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September

Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 13:28
by gilgamesh
world ranked wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
world ranked wrote:
Not Jack or Degale but Ramirez as the top guy for beting Abraham?
I believe Ramirez would beat Jack and Degale. Badou Jack has left the division now or I'd have him #1 as I thought he deserved the nod over Degale.
Only based on you seeing him one time?
Yes. Sometimes seeing somebody one time tells me a lot about them.

The first time I ever saw Terence Crawford was against Breidis Prescott. Now obviously Prescott is no world beater exactly, but I could tell from the way Crawford handled him and the way he fought. Crawford is gonna be P4P #1 someday, and I think I said so online after seeing that fight. Crawford had nowhere near the kind of feats that should've lead to such a bold statement like that from me, but I know talent like that when I see it.

I'm not saying Ramirez is THAT talented, but I am quite confident that he'd be able to handle himself very well against the best the Super Middleweight division has to offer. Just give him the chance, and watch.

Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September

Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 13:49
by apollo creed
Ramirez is mexican and that would probably sell well. Also he expressed his will to fight GGG.

All are good fights for GGG. Most winnable fight for GGG is Saunders due of his $hitty physical shape. LOL

Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September

Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 13:58
by boxing_rocks
Ramirez didn't look impressive against drained Vlasov, but still the rest of SMW is not that good too. Calum Smith may be above the rest, but he still needs to prove that.

Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September

Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 21:20
by world ranked
apollo creed wrote:Ramirez is mexican and that would probably sell well. Also he expressed his will to fight GGG.

All are good fights for GGG. Most winnable fight for GGG is Saunders due of his $hitty physical shape. LOL
You know Ramirez is headline a ppv in a few weeks. I don't think he selling much.

Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September

Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 21:21
by world ranked
gilgamesh wrote:
world ranked wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
I believe Ramirez would beat Jack and Degale. Badou Jack has left the division now or I'd have him #1 as I thought he deserved the nod over Degale.
Only based on you seeing him one time?
Yes. Sometimes seeing somebody one time tells me a lot about them.

The first time I ever saw Terence Crawford was against Breidis Prescott. Now obviously Prescott is no world beater exactly, but I could tell from the way Crawford handled him and the way he fought. Crawford is gonna be P4P #1 someday, and I think I said so online after seeing that fight. Crawford had nowhere near the kind of feats that should've lead to such a bold statement like that from me, but I know talent like that when I see it.

I'm not saying Ramirez is THAT talented, but I am quite confident that he'd be able tto handle himself very well against the best the Super Middleweight division has to offer. Just give him the chance, and watch.
fair enough. You maybe right but doesn't have to proven first. Errol Spence looks to be the top welterweight but they actually have to prove it at some point before we crown them.

Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September

Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 21:27
by SaadOffTheDeck
world ranked wrote:
apollo creed wrote:Ramirez is mexican and that would probably sell well. Also he expressed his will to fight GGG.

All are good fights for GGG. Most winnable fight for GGG is Saunders due of his $hitty physical shape. LOL
You know Ramirez is headline a ppv in a few weeks. I don't think he selling much.
Valdez is the main event.

Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September

Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 21:29
by world ranked
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
world ranked wrote:
apollo creed wrote:Ramirez is mexican and that would probably sell well. Also he expressed his will to fight GGG.

All are good fights for GGG. Most winnable fight for GGG is Saunders due of his $hitty physical shape. LOL
You know Ramirez is headline a ppv in a few weeks. I don't think he selling much.
Valdez is the main event.
Even more of the point he can't even headline a small ppv like that.

Re: Canelo, Saunders, Eubank Jr and Ramirez as GGG's options for September

Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 22:48
by Mexi-Box
boxing_rocks wrote:Ramirez didn't look impressive against drained Vlasov, but still the rest of SMW is not that good too. Calum Smith may be above the rest, but he still needs to prove that.
:lol:

It's like saying someone didn't look good against Andre Ward or something. Of course, Vlasov goes right on to become a top cruiserweight. And no way he was drained, the fight was really close. Yeah, Ramirez was probably drained too because he's also gigantic at SMW.

I actually do think Ramirez would beat DeGale rather easily. DeGale barely squeaked by Porky Medina.