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After Oleg Hermann and Abel Sanchez denied reports claiming that the reason why GGG was unwilling to go forward with the Saunders fight, was due to injury, it seems that Bob Arum has finally confirmed the actual reason...

"Arum Very Interested, Prepared To Make Ramirez vs. Golovkin Next"

Golovkin and his handlers have often expressed their interest in facing Ramirez - if they decide to move up to 168-pounds.

Last week, Arum sat down with Golovkin's promoter Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions to discuss the possibility of that fight - but that depends on some of the other options being explored for GGG.

"I talked to Loeffler as recently as last week, he was in (Washington) D.C. (for the April 8th card at the MGM National Harbor). He obviously is looking at a Canelo (Saul Alvarez) fight which he realizes may never happen. The (Billy Joe) Saunders fight looks very problematic - I think the Kazahk government pulled the money. So we would love for Gilberto to fight Golovkin. I think it's a big fight. I like Ramirez's chances," Arum told BS.com.

Thoughts?

I'm sure Warren could put together a show so GGG can come over here if there's a willingness from BJS....

'I think the Kazahk government pulled the money'

That may well be, but does this count as Arum confirming it?

Has enlightened one changed his name

fergus to Enlightened-One to verlichte. I wonder which account is next? He's had 5+ on other forums.

Incidentally, it's probably best to put this new iteration on ignore before he starts thrilling every other thread with nonsense.

I just hope that GGG doesn't sit around for Canelo, only for Saul to go another route again

Saunders in the UK would do well. Just stay busy though.

On topic, if Saunders wants it I'm certain it could be made

EO, have you leaked up your wounds? Should we expect more biased 5-page posts?

P.S. Surprisingly, "verlicht" is "enlightened" in Dutch.

crusader wrote:fergus to Enlightened-One to verlichte. I wonder which account is next? He's had 5+ on other forums.

Incidentally, it's probably best to put this new iteration on ignore before he starts thrilling every other thread with nonsense.

Just wait to see E-O debating with his new alt - verlichte.

Don't get it why Loeffler doesn't try to make this fight in UK or Monaco as he did in the past ? In UK it would sell well.

apollo creed wrote:Don't get it why Loeffler doesn't try to make this fight in UK or Monaco as he did in the past ? In UK it would sell well.

Not well enough to satisfy Billy's appetite.

crusader wrote:fergus to Enlightened-One to verlichte. I wonder which account is next? He's had 5+ on other forums.

Incidentally, it's probably best to put this new iteration on ignore before he starts thrilling every other thread with nonsense.

Cojimar 1946 in botp. This isnt even pretending to hide it. Not that the mods here give a shit what any poster does.

Does anyone believe a word coming from Arum?

I mean, it's Arum we're talking about.

crow wrote:Does anyone believe a word coming from Arum?

I mean, it's Arum we're talking about.

Well, he isn't even claiming that he knows. He says "I think". He is entitled to think what he wants, but Entitled-One will still think that he is entitled to start junk threads.

verlichte wrote:After Oleg Hermann and Abel Sanchez denied reports claiming that the reason why GGG was unwilling to go forward with the Saunders fight, was due to injury, it seems that Bob Arum has finally confirmed the actual reason...

"Arum Very Interested, Prepared To Make Ramirez vs. Golovkin Next"

Golovkin and his handlers have often expressed their interest in facing Ramirez - if they decide to move up to 168-pounds.

Last week, Arum sat down with Golovkin's promoter Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions to discuss the possibility of that fight - but that depends on some of the other options being explored for GGG.

"I talked to Loeffler as recently as last week, he was in (Washington) D.C. (for the April 8th card at the MGM National Harbor). He obviously is looking at a Canelo (Saul Alvarez) fight which he realizes may never happen. The (Billy Joe) Saunders fight looks very problematic - I think the Kazahk government pulled the money. So we would love for Gilberto to fight Golovkin. I think it's a big fight. I like Ramirez's chances," Arum told BS.com.

Thoughts?

Figures the money isn't there. Otherwise Saunders would be raising 9 kinds of hell on twitter about being ducked.

Just so people don't get side-tracked by meaningless trolling, here are the facts again...

Main Events managed the promotion for the first Kovalev-Ward fight and they did not request the NSAC to appoint any non-American judges.

We know for certain that Sergey Kovalev has previously engaged in at least TWENTY TWO bouts on US shores where solely American judges scored each contest, which equates to 69% of the fights listed on his resume:
• Andre Ward
• Nadjib Mohammedi
• Bernard Hopkins
• Blake Caparello
• Cedric Agnew
• Cornelius White
• Gabriel Campillo
• Lionell Thompson
• Darnell Boone (twice)
• Grover Young
• Terrance Woods
• Julius Fogle
• William Johnson
• Dallas Vargas
• Kia Daniels
• Harley Kilfian
• Micky Stackhouse
• Ayodeji Fadeyi
• Michael Birthmark
• Darryl Johnson
• Daniel Chavez

It is commonplace for Main Events to use judges exclusively from America to officiate bouts for her stable of Eastern European and Communist fighters, such as: Tomasz Adamek, Vyacheslav Glaszkov, Sullivan Barrera, Vasily Lepikhin, Arif Magomedov, Madiyar Ashkeyev, Enriko Gogokhia and Dmitry Mikhaylenko.

As the A-side for the first Kovalev-Ward fight, Kathy Duva agreed to using American judges... and no one from Team Krusher or from Main Events complained about the issue during the build-up/promotion of the bout.

Fwank Warren conceded to iFL TV last night that Golovkin wasn't injured, but that his team were simply stalling to wait for the outcome of the Canelo-Chavez Jr. bout.

He also aired his frustration about having to stage Khurtsidze's title eliminator and also paying the Georgian step-aside money, whilst being let down by Team GGG. To be fair, if he's paid out a lot of money to make the Golovkin-Saunders fight happen, then his frustration is wholly justified.

Warren also doubted K2's sincerity about wanting to stage the Golovkin-Saunders fight in June fight in the first place, since it was so close to the prospective September date for the Canelo bout.

Despite feeling disappointed, Fwank Warren hasn't ruled-out the possibility of Saunders facing Golovkin at some point down the line.

Warren also expressed his doubt about the likelihood of the Golovkin-Canelo fight taking place in September.

He signed-off the interview by stating that Saunders will defend his WBO world middleweight title against Khurtsidze on the 8th July.

Warren doesn't know sh!t about Golovkin's condition. GGG's usage of the right arm definitely didn't look good after round 5 of the Jacobs fight.

It doesn't mean that there isn't also a money issue which would of course become the main reason of the cancellation.

boxing_rocks wrote:Warren doesn't know sh!t about Golovkin's condition. GGG's usage of the right arm definitely didn't look good after round 5 of the Jacobs fight.

It doesn't mean that there isn't also a money issue which would of course become the main reason of the cancellation.

Go to the iFL TV YouTube channel and watch the interview for yourself. He claims he obtained his info. from Golovkin's "people", since he was negotiating with them whilst attempting to make the GGG-Saunders fight.

I can't find any evidence to confirm your claims about Golovkin being injured. Even the person who originally spread this rumour has retracted his comments.

verlichte wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Warren doesn't know sh!t about Golovkin's condition. GGG's usage of the right arm definitely didn't look good after round 5 of the Jacobs fight.

It doesn't mean that there isn't also a money issue which would of course become the main reason of the cancellation.

Go to the iFL TV YouTube channel and watch the interview for yourself. He claims he obtained his info. from Golovkin's "people", since he was negotiating with them whilst attempting to make the GGG-Saunders fight.

I can't find any evidence to confirm your claims about Golovkin being injured. Even the person who originally spread this rumour has retracted his comments.

I don't need to see an interview. It is clear that regardless of the injury being real or not, Golovkin's "people" would never disclose it to Warren or anybody else. The money problem can be real as well, but it doesn't make the injury fake.

boxing_rocks wrote:

verlichte wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Warren doesn't know sh!t about Golovkin's condition. GGG's usage of the right arm definitely didn't look good after round 5 of the Jacobs fight.

It doesn't mean that there isn't also a money issue which would of course become the main reason of the cancellation.

Go to the iFL TV YouTube channel and watch the interview for yourself. He claims he obtained his info. from Golovkin's "people", since he was negotiating with them whilst attempting to make the GGG-Saunders fight.

I can't find any evidence to confirm your claims about Golovkin being injured. Even the person who originally spread this rumour has retracted his comments.

I don't need to see an interview. It is clear that regardless of the injury being real or not, Golovkin's "people" would never disclose it to Warren or anybody else. The money problem can be real as well, but it doesn't make the injury fake.

What has compelled you to repeatedly submit multiple posts in this forum defending Golovkin's performance against Jacobs, coupled with his refusal to take the Saunders fight, was purely down to injury?

I can't find anything evidence anywhere to support your opinion... and I'm hoping that you can prove this claim.

verlichte wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

verlichte wrote: Go to the iFL TV YouTube channel and watch the interview for yourself. He claims he obtained his info. from Golovkin's "people", since he was negotiating with them whilst attempting to make the GGG-Saunders fight.

I can't find any evidence to confirm your claims about Golovkin being injured. Even the person who originally spread this rumour has retracted his comments.

I don't need to see an interview. It is clear that regardless of the injury being real or not, Golovkin's "people" would never disclose it to Warren or anybody else. The money problem can be real as well, but it doesn't make the injury fake.

What has compelled you to repeatedly submit multiple posts in this forum defending Golovkin's performance against Jacobs, coupled with his refusal to take the Saunders fight, was purely down to injury?

I can't find anything evidence anywhere to support your opinion... and I'm hoping that you can prove this claim.

I believe my eyes and they are telling me that Golovkin became very economical with his right arm in the last 7 rounds of Jacobs fight. There are secondary signs of an injury, but there is no point to discuss them with a dummy like you.

boxing_rocks wrote:

verlichte wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
I don't need to see an interview. It is clear that regardless of the injury being real or not, Golovkin's "people" would never disclose it to Warren or anybody else. The money problem can be real as well, but it doesn't make the injury fake.

What has compelled you to repeatedly submit multiple posts in this forum defending Golovkin's performance against Jacobs, coupled with his refusal to take the Saunders fight, was purely down to injury?

I can't find anything evidence anywhere to support your opinion... and I'm hoping that you can prove this claim.

I believe my eyes and they are telling me that Golovkin became very economical with his right arm in the last 7 rounds of Jacobs fight. There are secondary signs of an injury, but there is no point to discuss them with a dummy like you.

So Golovkin’s reluctance to accept the opportunity to face Saunders has nothing whatsoever to do with Oscar De La Hoya’s threats that taking this bout would represent an unnecessary risk of losing the Canelo fight? Since injury or a defeat could postpone the bout, coupled with the fact that it would severely affect the ability to promote the super-fight.

So Golovkin’s subpar performance during the second half of his contest against Jacobs had nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that he was facing a career-best opponent, as a 35 year old that had only ventured past eight rounds in a competitive bout once in almost six years?

After all, Golovkin has a proven track-record of maintaining his performance levels during the second half of contests… not?

So I guess I must be a “dummy” for preferring to believe the above, over fictional claims about an alleged injury where there’s a complete absence of any evidence?

For the record, I’m not criticising Golovkin, instead I’m merely trying to question your motives for fabricating the so-called “injury” excuse.

You’re entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to use insults, because all it serves is to motivate me to undermine your claims.

As some people already mentioned, nobody cares what a moron with multiple identities like you thinks.