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Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 10:34
by Ossyrules
Khan calls out one time on twitter. Not sure how likely it would be to get made.
Is this a case closed type prediction, ie Khan will get tagged at some point and that'll be that... or do some people here give Khan a shot? He does hold advantages over Thurman is some areas...?
Re: Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 10:57
by Lackeos
I don't think Thurman is as good as a lot of people here think. But I wouldn't pick Khan to beat anyone world class like Pacquiao, Garcia, Thurman, Bradley, or Brook. I'd pick Porter to beat Khan also, but that's a fight where I think either fighter had a chance.
Re: Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 11:03
by Syntax Error
Khan is good at chasing big opponents for big fights.
Thurman is in demand at the moment, as most 147 roads lead to him, so it's no surprise Khan would target him.
Whether Amir has what it takes to beat someone of the quality of Thurman is another matter altogether.
Re: Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 12:06
by Ossyrules
I agree re most 147 roads lead to Thurman. I don't massively rate him either, but to his credit he's the man that won the fights to put himself there.
As for Khan vs Thurman. Khan would have to be at his very very best to win this one. Which I'm not sure he is anymore. I think Khan can control the boxing in this one a lot, but there will be several periods where Thurman puts it on him, and the odds are he probably finishes him during one of the periods. The maidiana fight shows he can survive these periods, but Thurman has better skill speed and angles than maidiana.
I also agree that the guys at the very top of 147 right now beat Khan. But that's Thurman, brook and Pacquaio. Khan still has a good chance vs the Garcias of the division
Re: Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 14:43
by northern
This is a fight that won't happen, it's Khan chasing a big name in the weight class. AGAIN.
He's a former world champion at a lighter weight who's only looking for big fights without earning them, he got knocked out cold against Alvarez last time out and Thurman just beat Garcia who TKO'd Khan in 4 rounds, admittedly it was a points win but Khan wouldn't last against Thurman.
Khan was at his best at a lighter weight and if he want's a crack at world titles one more time he should drop the pounds and fight Terence Crawford or Julius Indongo at super light weight or if he's really desperate for a world title belt he should fight Tsiko Mulovhedzi for the IBO welterweight world title.
Re: Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 15:09
by candyslim
The only question that occurs to me is "why would anyone be interested in making this fight?"
Perhaps I'm being overly harsh but I'm struggling to regard Khan as a genuine top level fighter any more.
Re: Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 16:41
by Tanzio
I would rather see a Danny v Khan rematch.
Re: Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 17:16
by Badhusker
I'm thinking Khan is spouting off to try to keep his name relevant. He wants a title shot he doesn't deserve. Beat Garcia first then talk. Thurman challenged him in the past with no reply.
As far as Thurman, he is easily a top 3 guy in Welterweight now. He wants Pacquiao more than anyone right now. He is beatable though. Hatley that Charlo just KO'd beat him in the amateurs, and Andrade beat him about 3 times. Until he loses in the pros though, he is the guy to beat. Him vs the winner of Spence/Brook is the fight we all want. No worries about him going to 154. Just as tough or tougher there. I think he will milk his championship as long as possible without having to fight someone like Spence or Porter again.
Re: Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 17:46
by Kalan
Ossyrules wrote:I agree re most 147 roads lead to Thurman. I don't massively rate him either, but to his credit he's the man that won the fights to put himself there.
As for Khan vs Thurman. Khan would have to be at his very very best to win this one. Which I'm not sure he is anymore. I think Khan can control the boxing in this one a lot, but there will be several periods where Thurman puts it on him, and the odds are he probably finishes him during one of the periods. The maidiana fight shows he can survive these periods, but Thurman has better skill speed and angles than maidiana.
I also agree that the guys at the very top of 147 right now beat Khan. But that's Thurman, brook and Pacquaio. Khan still has a good chance vs the Garcias of the division
Khan has NO chance to beat Danny Garcia... Khan still sucked against a weak light hitter like Algieri... Danny can afford to go after Khan swinging and blast him out again...Garcia had now proven he can go 12 with a big power puncher -- and go 12 with one of the best boxer-punchers the Welterweight Division has seen in a long time -- who couldn't stop Danny or knock him down.. Thurman-Garcia was a close fight. Danny is a tough hombre.
I find it hilarious that Khan calls Thurman out after Thurman, Porter, and Brook got nothing but duck and run excuses from Khan for many years instead of Khan in the opposing corner.. Now there a new boy on the 147-pound scene who's potentially better than all of them... Algieri-Khan was an even fight -- and khan had a super friendly referee who allowed him to grab and wrestle like crazy... Spence took Algieri apart and ran him over like he was Amir Khan... Algieri happened to be a more appropriate fight for Spence because he only had 19 of them at the time... So he's another young killer for Khan to duck.
Re: Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 17:49
by boxing_rocks
Who is Khan? A guy famous for Floyd, Manny and Brook not fighting him? Neither will Thurman.
Re: Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 18:00
by Ossyrules
Kalan wrote:Ossyrules wrote:I agree re most 147 roads lead to Thurman. I don't massively rate him either, but to his credit he's the man that won the fights to put himself there.
As for Khan vs Thurman. Khan would have to be at his very very best to win this one. Which I'm not sure he is anymore. I think Khan can control the boxing in this one a lot, but there will be several periods where Thurman puts it on him, and the odds are he probably finishes him during one of the periods. The maidiana fight shows he can survive these periods, but Thurman has better skill speed and angles than maidiana.
I also agree that the guys at the very top of 147 right now beat Khan. But that's Thurman, brook and Pacquaio. Khan still has a good chance vs the Garcias of the division
Khan has NO chance to beat Danny Garcia... Khan still sucked against a weak light hitter like Algieri... Danny can afford to go after Khan swinging and blast him out again...Garcia had now proven he can go 12 with a big power puncher -- and go 12 with one of the best boxer-punchers the Welterweight Division has seen in a long time -- who couldn't stop Danny or knock him down.. Thurman-Garcia was a close fight. Danny is a tough hombre.
I find it hilarious that Khan calls Thurman out after Thurman, Porter, and Brook got nothing but duck and run excuses from Khan for many years instead of Khan in the opposing corner.. Now there a new boy on the 147-pound scene who's potentially better than all of them... Algieri-Khan was an even fight -- and khan had a super friendly referee who allowed him to grab and wrestle like crazy... Spence took Algieri apart and ran him over like he was Amir Khan... Algieri happened to be a more appropriate fight for Spence because he only had 19 of them at the time... So he's another young killer for Khan to duck.
I'm not saying Khan beats Garcia every day and twice on Sunday, but of course he has a chance don't be silly. A better chance than vs Thurman.
Of course Garcia can beat Khan he beat him before and has every chance of landing the winning shot as per last time, khan also showed he can box Garcia let's not forget. His problem is boxing to a plan and not getting emotionally involved. Anyway my point is I like his chances vs Garcia better than Thurman.
Overall I agree with most on the thread that Khan doesn't deserve the shot be Thurman, he needs a couple good wins to warrant it
Re: Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 18:16
by caldo2025
I've never been a huge Thurman fan because his mouth makes him unlikeable but I definitely respect his ability and think that he should get more P4P consideration. I think that he deserves a super fight with Manny. Why Arum has a hard on for this guy Horn who no one has really ever seen fight, is beyond me.
This is the ONLY fight that Manny has left to make. One last big pay day for the legend and he deserves it. Both guys deserve it. With Manny's movement, I give him a chance at pulling this one out and how great would it be to end a beautiful career with a win like that? No one is going to remember his fight with Horn and for Arum to continue to make fights for Manny that are not going to be memorable is a disservice to not only Manny, but the fans that have paid to see him fight for years.
Thurman and Manny or bust
Re: Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 18:25
by verlichte
Ossyrules wrote:Khan calls out one time on twitter. Not sure how likely it would be to get made.
Is this a case closed type prediction, ie Khan will get tagged at some point and that'll be that... or do some people here give Khan a shot? He does hold advantages over Thurman is some areas...?
Keith Thurman isn't on Amir Khan's radar, since the Brit is capable of earning bigger paydays by facing the likes of Pacquiao and Brook.
Amir is a fearless mercenary who competes in the sport of boxing purely for business reasons rather than sporting glory.
Re: Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 18:28
by Ossyrules
caldo2025 wrote:I've never been a huge Thurman fan because his mouth makes him unlikeable but I definitely respect his ability and think that he should get more P4P consideration. I think that he deserves a super fight with Manny. Why Arum has a hard on for this guy Horn who no one has really ever seen fight, is beyond me.
This is the ONLY fight that Manny has left to make. One last big pay day for the legend and he deserves it. Both guys deserve it. With Manny's movement, I give him a chance at pulling this one out and how great would it be to end a beautiful career with a win like that? No one is going to remember his fight with Horn and for Arum to continue to make fights for Manny that are not going to be memorable is a disservice to not only Manny, but the fans that have paid to see him fight for years.
Thurman and Manny or bust
I'm actually the opposite re Thurman, as in I like his mouth, philosophical type character quite good to listen to, but ability wise it's not that I don't rate him, but he doesn't completely convince me. He shouldn't be p4p for me.
As for Pacquaio I think with the career he's had, if the Australia fight is a bow out I don't have too much issue, he deserves it
Re: Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 18:33
by caldo2025
Ossyrules wrote:caldo2025 wrote:I've never been a huge Thurman fan because his mouth makes him unlikeable but I definitely respect his ability and think that he should get more P4P consideration. I think that he deserves a super fight with Manny. Why Arum has a hard on for this guy Horn who no one has really ever seen fight, is beyond me.
This is the ONLY fight that Manny has left to make. One last big pay day for the legend and he deserves it. Both guys deserve it. With Manny's movement, I give him a chance at pulling this one out and how great would it be to end a beautiful career with a win like that? No one is going to remember his fight with Horn and for Arum to continue to make fights for Manny that are not going to be memorable is a disservice to not only Manny, but the fans that have paid to see him fight for years.
Thurman and Manny or bust
I'm actually the opposite re Thurman, as in I like his mouth, philosophical type character quite good to listen to, but ability wise it's not that I don't rate him, but he doesn't completely convince me. He shouldn't be p4p for me.
As for Pacquaio I think with the career he's had, if the Australia fight is a bow out I don't have too much issue, he deserves it
I can see that but you're definitely in the minority. If this kid never opened his mouth, he'd be a much bigger star than he is now. He opens that yapper and people just start booing and it overshadows the work he puts in that ring. Two huge victories over Porter and Garcia and only hard core boxing fans can tell you who the lineal Welterweight champion of the world is. That division is and has been the heart of boxing for a decade and no one knows him. I'd love to be that guy's publicist. Easiest job in the world....just tell him to shut up. Boom, you win. Millions coming your way.
Re: Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 18:35
by Jip
Hahaha

Re: Thurman vs Khan
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 19:12
by sharpei_louis
verlichte wrote:Ossyrules wrote:Khan calls out one time on twitter. Not sure how likely it would be to get made.
Is this a case closed type prediction, ie Khan will get tagged at some point and that'll be that... or do some people here give Khan a shot? He does hold advantages over Thurman is some areas...?
Keith Thurman isn't on Amir Khan's radar, since the Brit is capable of earning bigger paydays by facing the likes of Pacquiao and Brook.
Amir is a fearless mercenary who competes in the sport of boxing purely for business reasons rather than sporting glory.
In his defence, he has a lot more chance of making cash than history with his chin and defence.