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Will Joshua be Wlad's best professional win?

Probably not, but it will be his best financial win, lose or draw.
Biggest crowd, probably biggest world wide audience.
It depends on how the fight goes, if we get another ClinchCo type fight, then I don't think so

Given the circumstances of Wlads last few fights and the threat that Josh can pose at this stage of Wlads career and to beat a young up and coming HW who many believe to be the real deal and many are tipping to stop Wlad early I'd say there will be some who would make a case for it being Wlads best win

"After it looked like he was done, finished, at 41 he got the better of the hungry Joshua" they would say

But I wouldln't personally say it would be his best win myself, no

Who would you put above Joshua on his resume?

Maybe, but mostly because of context

Impractical Poster wrote:Who would you put above Joshua on his resume?

Chris Byrd, Chagaev, Haye, Povetkin, and Pulev.

When it comes to Wladimir Klitschko it can be difficult to point out one particular opponent that stands above another, collectively there are a bunch of opponents that look good on his record.
David Haye has been mentioned and there was a lot of buzz around that fight, but look at the weights, reason it was considered big was the hype the UK put into it and a great job they did.
But in terms of a decent sized live one ... perhaps Samuel Peter 1 fight.
I wouldn't say Peter was as skillful as some of the others but the threat of his power and size of the man was enough to make it legitimately dangerous bout at the time.

Impractical Poster wrote:Will Joshua be Wlad's best professional win?

What do you think?

AJ looks the goods, although his best opponent was probably a guy who could hardly beat Chisora.

Impractical Poster wrote:Will Joshua be Wlad's best professional win?

Possibly, but caldoh will definitely hurt himself severely.

Absolutely, also gives him an historical boost with the abysmal opposition he beat for over a decade.

BitPlayer wrote:Maybe, but mostly because of context

Impractical Poster wrote:Who would you put above Joshua on his resume?

Chris Byrd, Chagaev, Haye, Povetkin, and Pulev.

Byrd and Haye??? They are a league behind the others, if not more.

At the moment, yes. Historically speaking, no...unless AJ goes on to have a great career himself.

Context is vital. I remember when 24-0 (21 KO) Samuel Peter was the supposed next big thing. He looked unstoppable and fought better comp than AJ has up to this point. I remember the boxing forums (particularly eastside) were salivating over Peter and I remember several posters starting serious threads about how Wlad would potentially be killed in the ring by Peter. Absolutely no way such a fragile bum like Wlad could beat Sam Peter. No way, the Nigerian Nightmare has this one in the bag, Wlad sucks.

I like AJ but I'd love to see Wlad pull off yet another win over an undefeated prospect/contender/champion (this would be his 13th) just to shut some of these people up.

If Wlad wins then Joshua instantly becomes a guy with some nice tools who has never notched a win of any real import.

What matters then is how Joshua's career progresses from there. Wins don't exist in a vacuum.

BitPlayer wrote:Maybe, but mostly because of context

Impractical Poster wrote:Who would you put above Joshua on his resume?

Chris Byrd, Chagaev, Haye, Povetkin, and Pulev.

That's the biggest joke of all time... Joshua would FLATTEN all of those pathetic opponents in 5 rounds with the exceptions of Povetkin and a prime Haye... Joshua would be the biggest win by far of Klitschko's career... and the most unlikely to happen... Povetkin, Haye, Chambers, Peter, Ibragimov, and Pulev were great wins.. The Povetkin and Ibragimov wins were real ugly and Haye was moderately ugly.. Chambers and Pulev are probably his 2 most spectacular wins.

Impractical Poster wrote:Will Joshua be Wlad's best professional win?

Certainly not. Joshua has never even fought, let alone, beat, a single top ranked boxer. Martin was his biggest win and Martin was the most ridiculous so-called champ ever, having won the belt without landing a single punch. If Wlad still has it and hasn't gotten old I expect him to win very easily.

If Wlad wins then he will have underscored the fact of him being the second best heavyweight since Lewis.

Only Vitali was better.

We should remember that it wasn't long ago that the two were being touted as the best ever themselves. You know, the usual facts bandied about - height, size, reach, record, tactics, knockout stats ect.

To get some context let's imagine a 27 year old Klitschko versus a 41 year old Joshua.

I think its fair to say that Wlad is the greatest 41 year old heavyweight in history.

It depends a bit on what Joshua goes on to do after. My instinct tells me this will be his best win if he pulls it off though. Honestly though I think he'll get stopped

IF IF's and Buts were peanuts and nuts, we'd all have a plentiful Christmas.

Is this a real question? THERE'S NO WAY WLAD WINS THIS FIGHT. So it's not even worth talking about. Wlad is going to get his head kicked in and retire by the 6th round. GOOD RIDDANCE.

caldo2025 wrote:IF IF's and Buts were peanuts and nuts, we'd all have a plentiful Christmas.

Is this a real question? THERE'S NO WAY WLAD WINS THIS FIGHT. So it's not even worth talking about. Wlad is going to get his head kicked in and retire by the 6th round. GOOD RIDDANCE.

Wlad wins by DQ then? Kicking is illegal in boxing

A lot of that will depend on what Joshua goes on to accomplish, but I'd definitely say it would rank amongst Wlad's best wins regardless. I'd see it as one of his very best wins certainly.

caldo2025 wrote:IF IF's and Buts were peanuts and nuts, we'd all have a plentiful Christmas.

Is this a real question? THERE'S NO WAY WLAD WINS THIS FIGHT. So it's not even worth talking about. Wlad is going to get his head kicked in and retire by the 6th round. GOOD RIDDANCE.

Keep your eyes closed and click your perty sparkly red heels while repeating that.

I'll change the question to is AJ loses..

He will know what it feels like, he can fight top opposition every fight.. he won't be scared to lose his '0' as he won't have it..

Wlad has beaten a lot of unbeaten contenders/prospects etc. Is he too old? Maybe, but he'a been fighting for ages and knows how to win.

Wlads career has spanned so long he has seen different boxers come and go. Byrd, Peter, Brewester etc.. to Chagaev, Thompson, Haye to Povetkin, Pulev etc..

x2x wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:Will Joshua be Wlad's best professional win?

Certainly not. Joshua has never even fought, let alone, beat, a single top ranked boxer. Martin was his biggest win and Martin was the most ridiculous so-called champ ever, having won the belt without landing a single punch. If Wlad still has it and hasn't gotten old I expect him to win very easily.

You must be blind to say Martin never landed a punch on Glazkov... He outfought him in the first 2 rounds and landed a really nice straight left, the best punch of that fight... He never took a hard head shot and he wasn't getting beaten before Glazkov bowed out with an injury... Glazkov will come back and do well when he resumes his career... He'll never beat Martin... People are playing Martin down because AJ beat him so easily..

Dominic Breazeale just beat an undefeated Heavyweight who's a very good prospect -- albeit he took unbelievable punishment to get the KO.. He seriously needs a great boxing coach and a great strength trainer.. Being big, tall, strong, tough, and athletic is not enough.. If you have 20 fights -- including a World Title shot - and you're 5 years into your career that you're doing full time with a lot of financial support ... you just need to have better boxing skills at this time period.. Dump your coach and find somebody who can teach you how to box.. Take a cue from Klitschko.

No.

Thomastearns wrote:If Wlad wins then he will have underscored the fact of him being the second best heavyweight since Lewis.

Only Vitali was better.

We should remember that it wasn't long ago that the two were being touted as the best ever themselves. You know, the usual facts bandied about - height, size, reach, record, tactics, knockout stats ect.

To get some context let's imagine a 27 year old Klitschko versus a 41 year old Joshua.

I think its fair to say that Wlad is the greatest 41 year old heavyweight in history.

crusader wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:Will Joshua be Wlad's best professional win?

What do you think?

AJ looks the goods, although his best opponent was probably a guy who could hardly beat Chisora.

Id probably put Breazeale above Whyte as of now, based on his last fight.