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I think it's fair to say neither Wlad or Joshua are chinny.

No, he impressed me a lot.

Very good fight did seem like klitschko lost ambition after the 8/9th round for me though

craigjenkins05 wrote:Very good fight did seem like klitschko lost ambition after the 8/9th round for me though

Do you think getting clubbed around the head by a monstrous puncher had anything to do with it ?

Joshua proved to have a decent chin

boxingknockout wrote:Joshua proved to have a decent chin

I'm worried about that defence now.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:Joshua proved to have a decent chin

I'm worried about that defence now.

This but I'm glad this thread wasn't chin bashing, fair play Davie

Agreed. Unless we're using the infamous 'McCall scale' which is notoriously challenging.

I think at Heavyweight no chin is invulnerable. All the really tough ones do it by not letting themselves be hit cleanly.

rd350lc wrote:

craigjenkins05 wrote:Very good fight did seem like klitschko lost ambition after the 8/9th round for me though

Do you think getting clubbed around the head by a monstrous puncher had anything to do with it ?

Joshua landed some great body shots after he was knocked down, I thinks that's what made Klitschko that little bit ragged. Had he went to the body himself he could have beaten Joshua.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:Joshua proved to have a decent chin

I'm worried about that defence now.

I've always been worried about his defence, to be fair, I don't think he has a particularly good one.
His best form of defence is having an absolutely terrifying offence

But he took some terrific shots from one of the hardest punchers out there and came through it, I can't say I'm too concerned for him, form what's out there.

I've long said Joshua has questions to answer and points to prove. Many on here have
But when he answers them, I have to give him credit.

I can't see anyone, from the current crop of heavyweights, finding those pin point accurate right hands the way Wlad did or landing with any more power.
As for out boxing Joshua, I had my concerns someone could outbox him, as Wlad was at times and Joshua just turned on steamroller mode a couple of times.

Joshua did show some vulnerabilities in defense and gave himself something to think about regards his stamina but I don't really see anyone having the tools to exploit those flaws right now.

davie wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:Joshua proved to have a decent chin

I'm worried about that defence now.

I've always been worried about his defence, to be fair, I don't think he has a particularly good one.
His best form of defence is having an absolutely terrifying offence

But he took some terrific shots from one of the hardest punchers out there and came through it, I can't say I'm too concerned for him, form what's out there.

I've long said Joshua has questions to answer and points to prove. Many on here have
But when he answers them, I have to give him credit.

I can't see anyone, from the current crop of heavyweights, finding those pin point accurate right hands the way Wlad did or landing with any more power.
As for out boxing Joshua, I had my concerns someone could outbox him, as Wlad was at times and Joshua just turned on steamroller mode a couple of times.

Joshua did show some vulnerabilities in defense and gave himself something to think about regards his stamina but I don't really see anyone having the tools to exploit those flaws right now.

AJ's lack of head movement / feints was always an obvious weakness to me. What is amazing is that he was able to get up from that right hand that Wlad landed and find a way to avoid being stopped for the rest of that round as well as 7 and 8.

AJ has better boxing instincts and intelligence than I gave him credit for prior to the fight. He has serious survival skills.

On top of that, he adjusted and learned during the fight. He improved his head movement and utilized more feints to get Wlad to miss as the fight wore on. His right hand was falling short so he went body with it.

Many are claiming that Wlad blew it when he had the chance to finish AJ and that is accurate. But AJ's instincts, survival skills and ability to learn and adjust on the job are what saved him, buying the seeming eternity to catch his second win and take back the fight beginning in round 9.

There are a lot of people (mainly from The Coke Troll's fan club) selling AJ's boxing skills seriously short. If he has learned to move his head and feint properly he is going to be very hard to stop, given the right hand shot that he got up from would have dropped a silverback.

Joshua isn't chinny but his head movement needs improvement if he's to not get stopped in the near future.

Tanzio wrote:

davie wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
I'm worried about that defence now.

I've always been worried about his defence, to be fair, I don't think he has a particularly good one.
His best form of defence is having an absolutely terrifying offence

But he took some terrific shots from one of the hardest punchers out there and came through it, I can't say I'm too concerned for him, form what's out there.

I've long said Joshua has questions to answer and points to prove. Many on here have
But when he answers them, I have to give him credit.

I can't see anyone, from the current crop of heavyweights, finding those pin point accurate right hands the way Wlad did or landing with any more power.
As for out boxing Joshua, I had my concerns someone could outbox him, as Wlad was at times and Joshua just turned on steamroller mode a couple of times.

Joshua did show some vulnerabilities in defense and gave himself something to think about regards his stamina but I don't really see anyone having the tools to exploit those flaws right now.

AJ's lack of head movement / feints was always an obvious weakness to me. What is amazing is that he was able to get up from that right hand that Wlad landed and find a way to avoid being stopped for the rest of that round as well as 7 and 8.

AJ has better boxing instincts and intelligence than I gave him credit for prior to the fight. He has serious survival skills.

On top of that, he adjusted and learned during the fight. He improved his head movement and utilized more feints to get Wlad to miss as the fight wore on. His right hand was falling short so he went body with it.

Many are claiming that Wlad blew it when he had the chance to finish AJ and that is accurate. But AJ's instincts, survival skills and ability to learn and adjust on the job are what saved him, buying the seeming eternity to catch his second win and take back the fight beginning in round 9.

There are a lot of people (mainly from The Coke Troll's fan club) selling AJ's boxing skills seriously short. If he has learned to move his head and feint properly he is going to be very hard to stop, given the right hand shot that he got up from would have dropped a silverback.

Good post

I could see Tyson Fury stopping him - but with a well-placed body shot.

Tuan_Jim wrote:I could see Tyson Fury stopping him - but with a well-placed body shot.

Very good point, with Joshua gassing the way he was last night a well timed and accurate body shot would of crippled him, it would have been the game changer and had Wlad of went to the body himself he could be the one who got the win last night

Oiky wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:I could see Tyson Fury stopping him - but with a well-placed body shot.

Very good point, with Joshua gassing the way he was last night a well timed and accurate body shot would of crippled him, it would have been the game changer and had Wlad of went to the body himself he could be the one who got the win last night

Would have absolutely crumpled him I reckon. Perils of head hunting. Klit kept lobbing that hook that decapped Pulev, and Joshua kept ducking it. Round after round I was waiting for him to adapt and lower it, but it never happened.

Fury doesn't have the muscle of AJ, but he does have the reach & nous to outfox him, and the punch variety to work him up & down.

Tuan_Jim wrote:

Oiky wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:I could see Tyson Fury stopping him - but with a well-placed body shot.

Very good point, with Joshua gassing the way he was last night a well timed and accurate body shot would of crippled him, it would have been the game changer and had Wlad of went to the body himself he could be the one who got the win last night

Would have absolutely crumpled him I reckon. Perils of head hunting. Klit kept lobbing that hook that decapped Pulev, and Joshua kept ducking it. Round after round I was waiting for him to adapt and lower it, but it never happened.

Fury doesn't have the muscle of AJ, but he does have the reach & nous to outfox him, and the punch variety to work him up & down.

Yeah I was thinking that, I got quite frustrated that even though he kept missing that shot he still kept throwing it Agreed if that was lowered and hit him in the body it would of bin game over

Yeah Fury is never going to be a big KO artist, and some would aruge that at heavyweight that is boring, but I disagree and Fury definitely has the brain to outbox Joshua and as you say he could definitely get that stoppage despite not being a big puncher if he worked AJs body, the way he was breathing it looked like Prince Patel could've stopped him with a bodyshot last night

Furys an easier fight than Wlad for Joshua imo