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Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 03:37
by crusader
If it happened yesterday instead of Wlad-AJ?

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 03:52
by Ossyrules
The straight right lands a lot easier vs wilder than it did vs joshua

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 03:58
by asdfjkl
If even Arreola won against him, then why on earth would Wlad lose lol

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 04:25
by jezzamundo
Wlad outboxes and stops Wilder, who would have nothing more than a puncher's chance against the technically superior Klitschko.

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 05:01
by marvelous marv
Result would have been more or less the same as Aj-Wlad. Wlad would outbox Wilder for long stretches, then get dropped with something big. I have always felt styalistically Wlad is harder for Wilder to fight than AJ.

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 05:20
by SaadOffTheDeck
If Wlad fought like that I have to think he would stop Wilder.

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 09:10
by Badhusker
jezzamundo wrote:Wlad outboxes and stops Wilder, who would have nothing more than a puncher's chance against the technically superior Klitschko.
Basically the same as Wlad vs Joshua. Wlad was technically superior, was ahead on points, and Joshua's puncher's chance came true. I think Wilder would win. Until he shows he has a weak chin, his chin is fine. He is more athletic and has a bigger gas tank than Joshua.

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 16:08
by candyslim
Wlad would have mysteriously failed a drug test and the fight called off. The WBC would then insist on Deontay taking a suitable opponent instead and sanctioned Wilder v Arreola II.

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 16:11
by boxing_rocks
candyslim wrote:Wlad would have mysteriously failed a drug test and the fight called off. The WBC would then insist on Deontay taking a suitable opponent instead and sanctioned Wilder v Arreola II.
:TU:

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 16:12
by Ossyrules
Badhusker wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:Wlad outboxes and stops Wilder, who would have nothing more than a puncher's chance against the technically superior Klitschko.
Basically the same as Wlad vs Joshua. Wlad was technically superior, was ahead on points, and Joshua's puncher's chance came true. I think Wilder would win. Until he shows he has a weak chin, his chin is fine. He is more athletic and has a bigger gas tank than Joshua.
If molina has wilder dancing I think it's fair to say the Wlad right hand, which is more accurate, timed better, technically thrown better and above all more powerful, would certainly be enough to put wilder away

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 16:18
by boxing_rocks
Wilder knows that, so Wlad would fail VADA testing.

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 16:30
by asdfjkl
Ossyrules wrote:
Badhusker wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:Wlad outboxes and stops Wilder, who would have nothing more than a puncher's chance against the technically superior Klitschko.
Basically the same as Wlad vs Joshua. Wlad was technically superior, was ahead on points, and Joshua's puncher's chance came true. I think Wilder would win. Until he shows he has a weak chin, his chin is fine. He is more athletic and has a bigger gas tank than Joshua.
If molina has wilder dancing I think it's fair to say the Wlad right hand, which is more accurate, timed better, technically thrown better and above all more powerful, would certainly be enough to put wilder away
Well, we all have to admit that that teacher is a very good boxer, there's a reason Wilder predicted that "Joshua could easely go to distance or get a late stoppage against Molina!"

:OhYes:

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 20:56
by ElJefe
Wlad inside 8. Probably a left hook to counter one of Wilder's ridiculously uncontrolled right hand swings.

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 01 May 2017, 02:23
by SaadOffTheDeck
candyslim wrote:Wlad would have mysteriously failed a drug test and the fight called off. The WBC would then insist on Deontay taking a suitable opponent instead and sanctioned Wilder v Arreola II.
:zzz:

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 01 May 2017, 18:23
by Badhusker
I doubt if the fight will ever happen. From what I read, Wlad only will have PED testing done in a lab in Germany. Not VADA, not USADA. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think he has ever taken part of random testing before a fight.

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 02 May 2017, 09:45
by Stuarty
I quite like Wilder he's fun to watch but he's done nothing to suggest he could handle an on form Wlad.

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 02 May 2017, 17:45
by candyslim
Stuarty30 wrote:I quite like Wilder he's fun to watch but he's done nothing to suggest he could handle an on form Wlad.
... nor would be iterested in attempting to.

I agreed every word of your post I just felt you missed a bit off. I fixed it for you :D

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 02 May 2017, 17:58
by gilgamesh
Wlad would still knock out Wilder if they fought.

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 03 May 2017, 03:37
by RScarf1
boxing_rocks wrote:Wilder knows that, so Wlad would fail VADA testing.
:lol: That would mess up Wlad's legacy, wouldn't it?

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 03 May 2017, 03:41
by RScarf1
Badhusker wrote:I doubt if the fight will ever happen. From what I read, Wlad only will have PED testing done in a lab in Germany. Not VADA, not USADA. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think he has ever taken part of random testing before a fight.
One of the fake female featherweight champions lives in Germany. Her trainer/manager/promoter/boyfriend lets her waive the mandatory anti-doping tests for her fights. She doesn't even take the tests which are not regulated by WADA or VADA. She fights in Germany all the time.

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 03 May 2017, 03:55
by verlichte
Badhusker wrote:I doubt if the fight will ever happen. From what I read, Wlad only will have PED testing done in a lab in Germany. Not VADA, not USADA. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think he has ever taken part of random testing before a fight.
Klitschko was tested by VADA for the Fury fight, he was going to be tested again by the same organisation for the rematch before it got cancelled. And VADA performed the testing for the Anthony Joshua fight.

I could have easily gone through more of Klitschko's bouts, but that would have been utterly pointless since it's obvious that what you've claimed is not only completely wrong, but utterly bizarre.

In fact, Wladimir Klitschko actually INSISTS on using VADA.

What on earth were you thinking when you made such a horrendously incorrect claim? It would have taken you less than a minute to ascertain the truth of the situation.

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 03 May 2017, 14:54
by candyslim
For those of us less enlightened, Verlichte, if you'll excuse my ignorance how would you go about checking the facts in less than a minute in this case?

That's a genuine question - I have to give you credit for being on the ball with facts and stats as a rule.

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 03 May 2017, 15:10
by verlichte
candyslim wrote:For those of us less enlightened, Verlichte, if you'll excuse my ignorance how would you go about checking the facts in less than a minute in this case?

That's a genuine question - I have to give you credit for being on the ball with facts and stats as a rule.
The internet is a wondrous thing.

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 03 May 2017, 15:46
by candyslim
No schit ... I meant specifically as you well know. I'm surprised you wouldn't be keen to demonstrate your superior capabilities.

Re: Wlad vs Wilder: What would've happened?

Posted: 03 May 2017, 22:09
by Badhusker
verlichte wrote:
Badhusker wrote:I doubt if the fight will ever happen. From what I read, Wlad only will have PED testing done in a lab in Germany. Not VADA, not USADA. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think he has ever taken part of random testing before a fight.
Klitschko was tested by VADA for the Fury fight, he was going to be tested again by the same organisation for the rematch before it got cancelled. And VADA performed the testing for the Anthony Joshua fight.

I could have easily gone through more of Klitschko's bouts, but that would have been utterly pointless since it's obvious that what you've claimed is not only completely wrong, but utterly bizarre.

In fact, Wladimir Klitschko actually INSISTS on using VADA.

What on earth were you thinking when you made such a horrendously incorrect claim? It would have taken you less than a minute to ascertain the truth of the situation.
A few years back Pulev claimed Wlad should do more stringent testing like he does. http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/klitsch ... nce-250735

Do you have any proof that Wlad submits to random testing through vada? Like I said correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm not talking about post fight tests.
I laughed when Wlad wanted a german lab to handle tests and Povetkin wanted a Russian lab. Neither were vada.

Wlad did participate for this last fight but hasn't always done in the past.