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Can Haymon manipulate Hearn and AJ?
Posted: 04 May 2017, 12:00
by montrealsuper
Ok we know Al Haymon tries to manipulate everything in his own favor (Pauly malignaggi told us AH can fix anything) - Haymon's empire is now totally dependent on Wilder as he has no other big selling grade A stars (PBC is a minor league in house series that has not created any new grade A stars) - Haymon is not going to want to risk Wilder vs Joseph - Though there is a lot to gain there is a LOT to lose - There has to be a concern that Hearn could owe a favor to Haymon because AJ won the title from Charles martin which looked an awful lot like a dive and a set up for Haymon to sell Hearn the IBF title probably for a % of AJ's future earnings (If AJ was not Charles martin's mandatory it would add to the suspicions as martin could have handpicked a pasty but of course Haymon knew there was no $ to be made off martin so he wangled a deal to give the title to AJ who of course has a HUGE UP$IDE) - Now that AJ is top dawg it's curious that the usually protected Wilder sounds so eager to fight AJ who is far better than any patsy he's beaten - Could it be possible that Haymon could manipulate Hearn to make AJ vs DW a fake fight"? As in one where they both spar safely where no one gets KOed and no one loses value? With Al Haymon involved we have to worry about these things and look at all angles because AH doesn't care about the sport or the fans he cares about controlling the sport and increasing his power - That's why in ten years AH has never produced a spectacular event like we saw Sat night in London - Fraud fighters dont generate huge interest like WK and AJ did - Pac vs Floyd could have been huge but it was an obvious fix with the judges in Floyd and AHs pocket (Floyd did not try to win decisively - he tried to box safe so not to get KOed because he knew it was in the bag if he just got to the final bell) - Look: I hope all this suspicion is wrong and AJ vs DW is REAL because it could also be an incredible fight - But AH has too much to lose if WIlder gets KOed - Also Wilder saying he's on the same popularity and draw level as AJ or even ahead of him is total lunacy - Until Wilder fights and beats a serious name HWT he is nothing but a fancily packaged glorified Alabama hwt champ

Re: Can Haymon manipulate Hearn and AJ?
Posted: 04 May 2017, 12:21
by verlichte
montrealsuper wrote:Ok we know Al Haymon tries to manipulate everything in his own favor (Pauly malignaggi told us AH can fix anything) - Haymon's empire is now totally dependent on Wilder as he has no other big selling grade A stars (PBC is a minor league in house series that has not created any new grade A stars) - Haymon is not going to want to risk Wilder vs Joseph - Though there is a lot to gain there is a LOT to lose - There has to be a concern that Hearn could owe a favor to Haymon because AJ won the title from Charles martin which looked an awful lot like a dive and a set up for Haymon to sell Hearn the IBF title probably for a % of AJ's future earnings (If AJ was not Charles martin's mandatory it would add to the suspicions as martin could have handpicked a pasty but of course Haymon knew there was no $ to be made off martin so he wangled a deal to give the title to AJ who of course has a HUGE UP$IDE) - Now that AJ is top dawg it's curious that the usually protected Wilder sounds so eager to fight AJ who is far better than any patsy he's beaten - Could it be possible that Haymon could manipulate Hearn to make AJ vs DW a fake fight"? As in one where they both spar safely where no one gets KOed and no one loses value? With Al Haymon involved we have to worry about these things and look at all angles because AH doesn't care about the sport or the fans he cares about controlling the sport and increasing his power - That's why in ten years AH has never produced a spectacular event like we saw Sat night in London - Fraud fighters dont generate huge interest like WK and AJ did - Pac vs Floyd could have been huge but it was an obvious fix with the judges in Floyd and AHs pocket (Floyd did not try to win decisively - he tried to box safe so not to get KOed because he knew it was in the bag if he just got to the final bell) - Look: I hope all this suspicion is wrong and AJ vs DW is REAL because it could also be an incredible fight - But AH has too much to lose if WIlder gets KOed - Also Wilder saying he's on the same popularity and draw level as AJ or even ahead of him is total lunacy - Until Wilder fights and beats a serious name HWT he is nothing but a fancily packaged glorified Alabama hwt champ 
That is one of the biggest sentences I’ve ever read. I can’t believe that so many written words can be strung together without even a single full stop or even the use of paragraphs!
That absolutely massive wall of text is not only horrible to read, but the actual idea you’re trying to convey is utterly preposterous!
Your post actually resembles the digital rain we saw in the first Matrix film:
Al Haymon does not have a vested interest in Anthony Joshua and nor does he have any control over his career! So please do some research and revise this nonsensical idea!
Re: Can Haymon manipulate Hearn and AJ?
Posted: 04 May 2017, 12:40
by greg
..I agree that it's difficult to read the post..like the comparison with the Matrix

Re: Can Haymon manipulate Hearn and AJ?
Posted: 04 May 2017, 13:59
by Baby Face Finster
verlichte wrote:montrealsuper wrote:Ok we know Al Haymon tries to manipulate everything in his own favor (Pauly malignaggi told us AH can fix anything) - Haymon's empire is now totally dependent on Wilder as he has no other big selling grade A stars (PBC is a minor league in house series that has not created any new grade A stars) - Haymon is not going to want to risk Wilder vs Joseph - Though there is a lot to gain there is a LOT to lose - There has to be a concern that Hearn could owe a favor to Haymon because AJ won the title from Charles martin which looked an awful lot like a dive and a set up for Haymon to sell Hearn the IBF title probably for a % of AJ's future earnings (If AJ was not Charles martin's mandatory it would add to the suspicions as martin could have handpicked a pasty but of course Haymon knew there was no $ to be made off martin so he wangled a deal to give the title to AJ who of course has a HUGE UP$IDE) - Now that AJ is top dawg it's curious that the usually protected Wilder sounds so eager to fight AJ who is far better than any patsy he's beaten - Could it be possible that Haymon could manipulate Hearn to make AJ vs DW a fake fight"? As in one where they both spar safely where no one gets KOed and no one loses value? With Al Haymon involved we have to worry about these things and look at all angles because AH doesn't care about the sport or the fans he cares about controlling the sport and increasing his power - That's why in ten years AH has never produced a spectacular event like we saw Sat night in London - Fraud fighters dont generate huge interest like WK and AJ did - Pac vs Floyd could have been huge but it was an obvious fix with the judges in Floyd and AHs pocket (Floyd did not try to win decisively - he tried to box safe so not to get KOed because he knew it was in the bag if he just got to the final bell) - Look: I hope all this suspicion is wrong and AJ vs DW is REAL because it could also be an incredible fight - But AH has too much to lose if WIlder gets KOed - Also Wilder saying he's on the same popularity and draw level as AJ or even ahead of him is total lunacy - Until Wilder fights and beats a serious name HWT he is nothing but a fancily packaged glorified Alabama hwt champ 
That is one of the biggest sentences I’ve ever read. I can’t believe that so many written words can be strung together without even a single full stop or even the use of paragraphs!
That absolutely massive wall of text is not only horrible to read, but the actual idea you’re trying to convey is utterly preposterous!
Your post actually resembles the digital rain we saw in the first Matrix film:
Al Haymon does not have a vested interest in Anthony Joshua and nor does he have any control over his career! So please do some research and revise this nonsensical idea!
So pretty much like most of your posts!
Re: Can Haymon manipulate Hearn and AJ?
Posted: 04 May 2017, 14:09
by verlichte
Baby Face Finster wrote:verlichte wrote:montrealsuper wrote:Ok we know Al Haymon tries to manipulate everything in his own favor (Pauly malignaggi told us AH can fix anything) - Haymon's empire is now totally dependent on Wilder as he has no other big selling grade A stars (PBC is a minor league in house series that has not created any new grade A stars) - Haymon is not going to want to risk Wilder vs Joseph - Though there is a lot to gain there is a LOT to lose - There has to be a concern that Hearn could owe a favor to Haymon because AJ won the title from Charles martin which looked an awful lot like a dive and a set up for Haymon to sell Hearn the IBF title probably for a % of AJ's future earnings (If AJ was not Charles martin's mandatory it would add to the suspicions as martin could have handpicked a pasty but of course Haymon knew there was no $ to be made off martin so he wangled a deal to give the title to AJ who of course has a HUGE UP$IDE) - Now that AJ is top dawg it's curious that the usually protected Wilder sounds so eager to fight AJ who is far better than any patsy he's beaten - Could it be possible that Haymon could manipulate Hearn to make AJ vs DW a fake fight"? As in one where they both spar safely where no one gets KOed and no one loses value? With Al Haymon involved we have to worry about these things and look at all angles because AH doesn't care about the sport or the fans he cares about controlling the sport and increasing his power - That's why in ten years AH has never produced a spectacular event like we saw Sat night in London - Fraud fighters dont generate huge interest like WK and AJ did - Pac vs Floyd could have been huge but it was an obvious fix with the judges in Floyd and AHs pocket (Floyd did not try to win decisively - he tried to box safe so not to get KOed because he knew it was in the bag if he just got to the final bell) - Look: I hope all this suspicion is wrong and AJ vs DW is REAL because it could also be an incredible fight - But AH has too much to lose if WIlder gets KOed - Also Wilder saying he's on the same popularity and draw level as AJ or even ahead of him is total lunacy - Until Wilder fights and beats a serious name HWT he is nothing but a fancily packaged glorified Alabama hwt champ 
That is one of the biggest sentences I’ve ever read. I can’t believe that so many written words can be strung together without even a single full stop or even the use of paragraphs!
That absolutely massive wall of text is not only horrible to read, but the actual idea you’re trying to convey is utterly preposterous!
Your post actually resembles the digital rain we saw in the first Matrix film:
Al Haymon does not have a vested interest in Anthony Joshua and nor does he have any control over his career! So please do some research and revise this nonsensical idea!
So pretty much like most of your posts!
Good for you kid!

Re: Can Haymon manipulate Hearn and AJ?
Posted: 04 May 2017, 15:49
by ElJefe
Martin fought AJ because every contender was lining up to take his title and Hearn offered him the most money. Eddie was safe in the knowledge that once Joshua got a belt he'd be 10x the money making machine he was without one. It was a straight-forward, simple yet smart investment from Hearn/Sky. Martin would have been an absolute wedge to travel to England, Hearn might even have made a loss on the show, but you can bet he's more than broken even after Joshua's defences against Breazeale and Molina and then his super-fight with Wlad.
This has nothing to do with Haymon.
Re: Can Haymon manipulate Hearn and AJ?
Posted: 04 May 2017, 20:13
by asdfjkl
Dillian Whyte vs AJ 2 would be far bigger as Wilder against anyone and no way that that fight can be faked. DW vs AJ was very nice already last time. I feel sad that AJ will only fight twice a year from now on, ljke he doesn't dare to face Ortiz or Povetkin in Russia, like Wladimir did.
Re: Can Haymon manipulate Hearn and AJ?
Posted: 04 May 2017, 20:16
by montrealsuper
ElJefe wrote:Martin fought AJ because every contender was lining up to take his title and Hearn offered him the most money. Eddie was safe in the knowledge that once Joshua got a belt he'd be 10x the money making machine he was without one. It was a straight-forward, simple yet smart investment from Hearn/Sky. Martin would have been an absolute wedge to travel to England, Hearn might even have made a loss on the show, but you can bet he's more than broken even after Joshua's defences against Breazeale and Molina and then his super-fight with Wlad.
This has nothing to do with Haymon.
Haymon may have sold the belt to Hearn and AJ for a % of future purses as they used to do a lot in the old days - Haymon sure as hell knew Charles martin was a short term beltholder and knowing AH he will finagle and wangle what is best for him - Let's just hope Hearn and AJ OWE NOTHING to Haymon because if they do we could see some fake rubbish like a lot of Haymon "fights" When it comes to Al Haymon it is all about what is best for Al Haymon and a lot of people just can't comprehend this

This rat will DO ANYTHING to increase his power whether it's rig fights order dives or buy judges or start fake smear campaigns against top fighters who are threats to his frauds

Re: Can Haymon manipulate Hearn and AJ?
Posted: 04 May 2017, 20:34
by verlichte
montrealsuper wrote:ElJefe wrote:Martin fought AJ because every contender was lining up to take his title and Hearn offered him the most money. Eddie was safe in the knowledge that once Joshua got a belt he'd be 10x the money making machine he was without one. It was a straight-forward, simple yet smart investment from Hearn/Sky. Martin would have been an absolute wedge to travel to England, Hearn might even have made a loss on the show, but you can bet he's more than broken even after Joshua's defences against Breazeale and Molina and then his super-fight with Wlad.
This has nothing to do with Haymon.
Haymon may have sold the belt to Hearn and AJ for a % of future purses as they used to do a lot in the old days - Haymon sure as hell knew Charles martin was a short term beltholder and knowing AH he will finagle and wangle what is best for him - Let's just hope Hearn and AJ OWE NOTHING to Haymon because if they do we could see some fake rubbish like a lot of Haymon "fights" When it comes to Al Haymon it is all about what is best for Al Haymon and a lot of people just can't comprehend this

This rat will DO ANYTHING to increase his power whether it's rig fights order dives or buy judges or start fake smear campaigns against top fighters who are threats to his frauds

blah, blah, blah...
Re: Can Haymon manipulate Hearn and AJ?
Posted: 04 May 2017, 23:36
by Badhusker
Montreal super,
Have you ever made a post without mentioning Al Haymon? I think you should just go visit him and wear your knee pads.