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Now that the Canelo-GGG is all but done. If Canelo wins is there a legitimate argument to be made that GGG isn't in his prime. Though Canelo will get credit he won't get full credit so is GGG considered still in his prime.

world ranked wrote:If Canelo wins is there a legitimate argument to be made that GGG isn't in his prime.

No.

I think GGG is still a force to be reckoned with, but he's arguably just outside his prime right now. I think he was pretty exposed vs. Jacobs.

He's 35. Not many boxers outside the heavyweights are still in their prime at 35. Maybe Bernard Hopkins is one.
2012/2013 was probably GGG in his prime. Still very good and if Canelo wins he should be lauded for it.

Lackeos wrote:

world ranked wrote:If Canelo wins is there a legitimate argument to be made that GGG isn't in his prime.

No.

That is a thought that is up for debate. There will be people that will say GGG isn't in his prime. I agree with that. You might not but it is a reasonable opinion. There is debate about contrary to what you believe the poll number shows people believe that.

..is he what? 35? it is a very respectable age for anyone and considering Golovkin not being the second coming of Jesus as well as his extensive amateur career and all that wear and tear, I'd be inclined to think he might be just outside his prime...
Having said that, I believe if Canelo wins fair and square, it will be an excellent scalp on his resume..

GGG definitely past prime, has enough in tank to still take Canelo. Canelo is not natural middleweight, GGG past prime kind of even things out, I favor and will be rooting for GGG but this has making of good fight.

darkstar81 wrote:He's 35. Not many boxers outside the heavyweights are still in their prime at 35. Maybe Bernard Hopkins is one.
2012/2013 was probably GGG in his prime. Still very good and if Canelo wins he should be lauded for it.

This^^^

It's hard to answer, be easier to say after the fight

At 35 years it's fair to assume he's either toward the end of his prime or possibly slightly past his prime

So to answer the question, I don't know, I hope he is. It's very rare you get 2 boxers fighting and hitting there prime at the same time.

We'll find out in September. It's jumping the gun a bit to suggest GGG is past it after one below par performance against a very good and very motivated fighter in Jacobs. A fight he still won.

Viewing GGG last two performances he has reached his peak. I'd say GGG is still in his prime right now. Although that could change in September don't think it will though.

Of course at 35 he has SOME wear and tear. Whatever happened with his right arm in the last fight is a result of that. I don't think he became visibly slower though.

People get too caught up on the age aspect. Wlad just put in one of his career best performances at 41.

Ossyrules wrote:It's hard to answer, be easier to say after the fight

At 35 years it's fair to assume he's either toward the end of his prime or possibly slightly past his prime

So to answer the question, I don't know, I hope he is. It's very rare you get 2 boxers fighting and hitting there prime at the same time.

Its defeats its purpose to say what he is after the fact. The opinion should be prior to the fight. Its easy to say what guy is after the fight.

IT wrote:People get too caught up on the age aspect. Wlad just put in one of his career best performances at 41.

Still doesn't mean it was a prime version. You can still be a great fighter and not be in there prime.

People are answering question after the Canelo, again its easy to say what answer will be after the fight.

Tanzio wrote:

darkstar81 wrote:He's 35. Not many boxers outside the heavyweights are still in their prime at 35. Maybe Bernard Hopkins is one.
2012/2013 was probably GGG in his prime. Still very good and if Canelo wins he should be lauded for it.

This^^^

But again there will be people to not give Canelo full credit because they considered GGG past prime. Is it a good win for Canelo yes but in some eyes it could have been a better win.

world ranked wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:It's hard to answer, be easier to say after the fight

At 35 years it's fair to assume he's either toward the end of his prime or possibly slightly past his prime

So to answer the question, I don't know, I hope he is. It's very rare you get 2 boxers fighting and hitting there prime at the same time.

Its defeats its purpose to say what he is after the fact. The opinion should be prior to the fight. Its easy to say what guy is after the fight.

You're asking people to look in the future then. As any normal person would judge a performance then draw a conclusion.

- was dominating every opponent

- most recent opponent was very close tough fight

- was it a bad day at the office so to speak? Did it represent the beginning of a decline? Did everyone underrate Jacobs or did he show us a level we've not seen? Has everyone been overcooking ggg level due to how the Jacob fight went?

If you do get that crystal ball out then I'll have the lottery numbers please

Ossyrules wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:It's hard to answer, be easier to say after the fight

At 35 years it's fair to assume he's either toward the end of his prime or possibly slightly past his prime

So to answer the question, I don't know, I hope he is. It's very rare you get 2 boxers fighting and hitting there prime at the same time.

Its defeats its purpose to say what he is after the fact. The opinion should be prior to the fight. Its easy to say what guy is after the fight.

You're asking people to look in the future then. As any normal person would judge a performance then draw a conclusion.

- was dominating every opponent

- most recent opponent was very close tough fight

- was it a bad day at the office so to speak? Did it represent the beginning of a decline? Did everyone underrate Jacobs or did he show us a level we've not seen? Has everyone been overcooking ggg level due to how the Jacob fight went?

If you do get that crystal ball out then I'll have the lottery numbers please

You misreading I'm asking as of TODAY is GGG in his prime in your opinion.

world ranked wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

world ranked wrote:
Its defeats its purpose to say what he is after the fact. The opinion should be prior to the fight. Its easy to say what guy is after the fight.

You're asking people to look in the future then. As any normal person would judge a performance then draw a conclusion.

- was dominating every opponent

- most recent opponent was very close tough fight

- was it a bad day at the office so to speak? Did it represent the beginning of a decline? Did everyone underrate Jacobs or did he show us a level we've not seen? Has everyone been overcooking ggg level due to how the Jacob fight went?

If you do get that crystal ball out then I'll have the lottery numbers please

You misreading I'm asking as of TODAY is GGG in his prime in your opinion.

The answer above is basically saying, how can you tell. You've got limited evidence to go on to give an answer. I get what you're doing, you want people to nail there colours to the mast so they can't give an excuse if ggg loses.

Ossyrules wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
You're asking people to look in the future then. As any normal person would judge a performance then draw a conclusion.

- was dominating every opponent

- most recent opponent was very close tough fight

- was it a bad day at the office so to speak? Did it represent the beginning of a decline? Did everyone underrate Jacobs or did he show us a level we've not seen? Has everyone been overcooking ggg level due to how the Jacob fight went?

If you do get that crystal ball out then I'll have the lottery numbers please

You misreading I'm asking as of TODAY is GGG in his prime in your opinion.

The answer above is basically saying, how can you tell. You've got limited evidence to go on to give an answer. I get what you're doing, you want people to nail there colours to the mast so they can't give an excuse if ggg loses.

yep and you still ducking the question so you can be one of those people I see.

GGG did not dominate Jacobs because of Jacob's ability and also weight advantage. Jacobs is No. 2 in the division. I've seen boxers reach their prime at age 35. Not many, but it happens. I think GGG will win over Canelo and it will be a wider margin than his win over Jacobs. In other words, I think Jacobs is better than Canelo. If Canelo lost the decision to Lara which many people believe should have happened, Canelo would not even be in the discussion of pound for pound top ten.

world ranked wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

world ranked wrote:
You misreading I'm asking as of TODAY is GGG in his prime in your opinion.

The answer above is basically saying, how can you tell. You've got limited evidence to go on to give an answer. I get what you're doing, you want people to nail there colours to the mast so they can't give an excuse if ggg loses.

yep and you still ducking the question so you can be one of those people I see.

Have a day off mate, ducking the question.

Nobody can say with any certainty, Jacobs fight could be 1 bad fight or it could be the start of a drop.i don't see how that can be disputed. We'll find out more fight night

Stop ducking this answer.

Ossyrules wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
The answer above is basically saying, how can you tell. You've got limited evidence to go on to give an answer. I get what you're doing, you want people to nail there colours to the mast so they can't give an excuse if ggg loses.

yep and you still ducking the question so you can be one of those people I see.

Have a day off mate, ducking the question.

Nobody can say with any certainty, Jacobs fight could be 1 bad fight or it could be the start of a drop.i don't see how that can be disputed. We'll find out more fight night

Stop ducking this answer.

I understand there no certain answer. I'm asking people opinions. You not understand what is your OPININON is GGG in his prime.

world ranked wrote:Now that the Canelo-GGG is all but done. If Canelo wins is there a legitimate argument to be made that GGG isn't in his prime. Though Canelo will get credit he won't get full credit so is GGG considered still in his prime.

It doesn't MATTER if he's in his prime or NOT in his prime.. He's going to beat the living sh!t out of CanYellow regardless.. The Irish kid should have knocked Chavez out in 3 or 4 rounds.. He apparently just wanted to pound on the fruitcake for the duration.. How do you go from fighting dicks like Khan, Chavez, Kirkland, Smith, and Dildo to fighting Gennady Golovkin??? ... I think the CanYellow team is going to search for a way out of this fight, or claim an injury.