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Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 16:37
by SAPFO
We talk about 'era' in boxing all the time. Lets have a boxing time machine, and chuck a few prime boxers in it.

Take a fighter, and move him into another decade. How does he compete. Discuss.

I'll start with an obvious example. prime Calzaghi, to the 90's. Him & prime RJJ (albeit juiced to the gills) would have been great. Not to mentioned the prime Benn, Eubank & Collins fights.

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 16:49
by gilgamesh
I foam at the mouth at the thought of seeing Bobby Chacon in the mix with Erik Morales, Barrera, Marquez and Pacquiao.

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 16:55
by Stuarty
Barrera and Morales in today's featherweight division would be excellent.

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 16:58
by TheGingerBomber
Unstoppable George Foreman in the time of Bowe, Holyfield, Lewis, etc. I mean prime grilled.

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 17:44
by Stuarty
Almost a cliché the amount you hear this but a prime Ali v a prime Tyson is most boxing fans wet dream :bag:

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 17:49
by littlepug
naz v pacman and froch v Eubank would do nicely

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 18:16
by Douglas Pink
Hearns V Mayweather at 147 pounds

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 18:22
by SAPFO
littlepug wrote:naz v pacman and froch v Eubank would do nicely

Froch vs Benn

Benn/Eubank vs Kessler

Prime JC vs Ward (it'd be boring I reckon)

I'm hovering over 168/175 ain't I. Okay,...

McClellan vs GGG

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 18:22
by Boxerbeetle
Stuarty30 wrote:Almost a cliché the amount you hear this but a prime Ali v a prime Tyson is most boxing fans wet dream :bag:
I honestly don't think that would have been a particularly good fight - prime Ali would have schooled prime Tyson imo.

Prime Tyson v prime Frazier? Now you're talking.

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 18:24
by Ossyrules
SAPFO wrote:We talk about 'era' in boxing all the time. Lets have a boxing time machine, and chuck a few prime boxers in it.

Take a fighter, and move him into another decade. How does he compete. Discuss.

I'll start with an obvious example. prime Calzaghi, to the 90's. Him & prime RJJ (albeit juiced to the gills) would have been great. Not to mentioned the prime Benn, Eubank & Collins fights.
Roy beats joe fairly comfortably imo in that fight

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 18:28
by Ossyrules
Douglas Pink wrote:Hearns V Mayweather at 147 pounds
Hearns takes this one, and dominates Floyd whilst he's at it.

Mayweathers not knocking Hearns out, and he's not even hurting him either. Those who beats Hearns (whilst he was still a force) did it through aggression. A guy with Hearns physical advantages doesn't get outboxed. Ray Leonard couldn't do it, and Leonard was bigger and stronger than Floyd, with a bigger punch and more naturally attacking. Ray Leonard couldn't out box tommy. He did it through getting rough and toughing it out, making it a scrap. Floyd hasn't got that in his locker

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 18:30
by Ossyrules
Boxerbeetle wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Almost a cliché the amount you hear this but a prime Ali v a prime Tyson is most boxing fans wet dream :bag:
I honestly don't think that would have been a particularly good fight - prime Ali would have schooled prime Tyson imo.

Prime Tyson v prime Frazier? Now you're talking.
Based on the success Frazier had vs Ali you'd have to say Tyson has a shot. He's bigger than Frazier, quicker and two handed. He has a good shot in this one but I'd agree Ali is favourite

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 18:45
by Taansend
Stanley Ketchel in the early 80's. Fights against Hagler, Hearns, Roldan, Mugabi, Sibson etc etc would have been mouth watering.

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 18:46
by Taansend
Ossyrules wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Almost a cliché the amount you hear this but a prime Ali v a prime Tyson is most boxing fans wet dream :bag:
I honestly don't think that would have been a particularly good fight - prime Ali would have schooled prime Tyson imo.

Prime Tyson v prime Frazier? Now you're talking.
Based on the success Frazier had vs Ali you'd have to say Tyson has a shot. He's bigger than Frazier, quicker and two handed. He has a good shot in this one but I'd agree Ali is favourite
When I think of a 'prime' Ali I think the year or two before his enforced absence. Ali was still great when he fought Frazier but past his prime in my humble opinion.

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 18:51
by Ossyrules
Taansend wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
I honestly don't think that would have been a particularly good fight - prime Ali would have schooled prime Tyson imo.

Prime Tyson v prime Frazier? Now you're talking.
Based on the success Frazier had vs Ali you'd have to say Tyson has a shot. He's bigger than Frazier, quicker and two handed. He has a good shot in this one but I'd agree Ali is favourite
When I think of a 'prime' Ali I think the year or two before his enforced absence. Ali was still great when he fought Frazier but past his prime in my humble opinion.
That's a fair assumption imo

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 19:09
by Impractical Poster
Stuarty30 wrote:Barrera and Morales in today's featherweight division would be excellent.
Barrera and Morales in any era's FW division would be excellent.

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 19:18
by Stuarty
Impractical Poster wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Barrera and Morales in today's featherweight division would be excellent.
Barrera and Morales in any era's FW division would be excellent.
True mate :TU:

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 19:27
by ElJefe
Ossyrules wrote:
Douglas Pink wrote:Hearns V Mayweather at 147 pounds
Hearns takes this one, and dominates Floyd whilst he's at it.

Mayweathers not knocking Hearns out, and he's not even hurting him either. Those who beats Hearns (whilst he was still a force) did it through aggression. A guy with Hearns physical advantages doesn't get outboxed. Ray Leonard couldn't do it, and Leonard was bigger and stronger than Floyd, with a bigger punch and more naturally attacking. Ray Leonard couldn't out box tommy. He did it through getting rough and toughing it out, making it a scrap. Floyd hasn't got that in his locker
All the things you've mentioned are probably why it's right up the top of my list. I'd love to see how Mayweather would approach it. On paper Hearns is an absolute nightmare for him. And you didn't even have to mention probably the single best punch 147 has ever seen in The Hitman's right hand!

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 21:15
by TheGingerBomber
Pacqiao vs Duran.

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 21:22
by Taansend
TheGingerBomber wrote:Pacqiao vs Duran.
2009 Pacquiao v 1980 Duran :clap:

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 10 May 2017, 21:25
by TheGingerBomber
Taansend wrote:
TheGingerBomber wrote:Pacqiao vs Duran.
2009 Pacquiao v 1980 Duran :clap:
Stuff of dreams.

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 11 May 2017, 04:13
by SAPFO
Taansend wrote:
TheGingerBomber wrote:Pacqiao vs Duran.
2009 Pacquiao v 1980 Duran :clap:

09 Pacman vs 09 Floyd was one of the biggest travesties in the history of boxing. The biggest fight never to happen. Think PacMan edges that one back then.

Amazing to think Duran had a 33 year pro career. He still does the round now during meet & greets. Surely he made enough from over 100 fights to taker it easy.

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 11 May 2017, 04:21
by Stuffs
Dunno about you guys but I'm thinking Ali v AJ. What about yous?

The greatest of all time, and Muhammad Ali, together in the ring in front of 90,000 at Wembley with AJ blasting out Ali with some of his hardcore blaster punches while the crowd roar the young lion to victory in the first round, the pangs of Sweet Caroline still in everyone's mind. A victory for all of Great Britain, keeping Britain both great, and humble.

Any chance of an RT Eddie?

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 11 May 2017, 04:53
by BitPlayer
Rocky Marcino Vs Today's Cruiserweights

Re: Boxrec Boxing Time Machine

Posted: 11 May 2017, 05:03
by Manchester Massive
Salvador Sanchez v Lomachenko
Hagler v Roy Jones Junior
SRL V Mayweather
Tyson v Foreman
Chavez v Duran