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On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 24 May 2017, 05:52
by Ruthless-RKO
ON May 24, 1976 at the Olympiahalle in Munich, Germany, Muhammad Ali made the seventh defense of his WBA and WBC heavyweight titles with a fifth round stoppage of tough Yorkshireman Richard Dunn.

Dunn was down three times in the fourth and twice in round five before referee Herbert Tomser had seen enough at 2-05 of the session.

Dunn takes up the story: “It was a terrific night and one of the very best of my life. I enjoyed everything about it – it was exhilarating, it was exciting. The only thing is I came second, but so what. I didn’t go into the ring thinking that I’d lose, even if it was at the very back of my mind a little bit. I went with every intention of winning the fight.

It was all level after three rounds but it quickly went downhill after that! I’m a southpaw so I think it took him a round or two to find his range but once he did, he just took me apart. Despite that, I enjoyed it.

Ali said I was better than George Foreman after the fight but that was certainly just his bravado of the time. He was a good fighter was Ali, the best I’ve ever seen and certainly the best I ever fought and, looking back, there was not a cat in hell’s chance of me winning – we were at different skill levels. My best chance – what I was hoping for – was to catch him unawares. But he was always in command, despite trying my hardest. He was a much better fighter than I was.

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 24 May 2017, 10:51
by Ambling Alp II
There was a funny moment in this fight. Dunn got knocked down for a flash knockdown. He bounced up immediately. Ali was still standing near him. On Dunn's way up, Dunn actually tried to throw a behind your back punch! :lol:

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 24 May 2017, 11:32
by Tony1244
Ambling Alp II wrote:There was a funny moment in this fight. Dunn got knocked down for a flash knockdown. He bounced up immediately. Ali was still standing near him. On Dunn's way up, Dunn actually tried to throw a behind your back punch! :lol:

Why do I remember that and not what I did yesterday? :maybe:

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 24 May 2017, 13:58
by Kalan
Dunn was Done... He was on his last legs starting another streak of 3 straight KO losses. In his next fight the inept Joe Bugner—never noted as a puncher (or a boxer for that matter)—showed utter contempt for Dunn and punched the Yorksman out in the 1st round. Dunn said unkind words about Bugner's punching power before the fight. That's not advisable when you're fighting a man who's bigger than you and you're no box of chocolates yourself.

After Bugner, Dunn was matched with greenish swinger Kallie Knoetze who had 12 wins. Dunn was promptly knocked out again, finishing his career with 12 losses, 11 of them by KO – making him one of the softest chinned opponents Ali fought. During a streak where Dunn suffered 4 KO losses in 5 fights, he was knocked out by a small but willing swinger named Ekwelum, who’s record was 2-1-2 coming in. Dunn was a veteran campaigner with 33 fights and expected to make quick work of the novice. The green kid chased Dunn all over the ring and battered the bigger battler out in 7 rounds.

During the Ali-Dunn fight, Dr Freddie Pacheco, Ali’s personal physician—who was somehow hired to commentate on the fight—talked about how good Dunn’s chin was, ignoring his record of KO losses.

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 25 May 2017, 16:05
by Ambling Alp II
Tony1244 wrote:
Ambling Alp II wrote:There was a funny moment in this fight. Dunn got knocked down for a flash knockdown. He bounced up immediately. Ali was still standing near him. On Dunn's way up, Dunn actually tried to throw a behind your back punch! :lol:

Why do I remember that and not what I did yesterday? :maybe:
It is funny what we remember sometimes.

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 25 May 2017, 16:36
by Tony1244
Ambling Alp II wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
Ambling Alp II wrote:There was a funny moment in this fight. Dunn got knocked down for a flash knockdown. He bounced up immediately. Ali was still standing near him. On Dunn's way up, Dunn actually tried to throw a behind your back punch! :lol:

Why do I remember that and not what I did yesterday? :maybe:
It is funny what we remember sometimes.

I sometimes remember things better that were from longer ago.

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 25 May 2017, 16:43
by Tony1244
Ambling Alp II wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
Ambling Alp II wrote:There was a funny moment in this fight. Dunn got knocked down for a flash knockdown. He bounced up immediately. Ali was still standing near him. On Dunn's way up, Dunn actually tried to throw a behind your back punch! :lol:

Why do I remember that and not what I did yesterday? :maybe:
It is funny what we remember sometimes.

I probably shouldn't admit to knowing this or remembering this. I heard it one time. I often don't remember what people have told me several times.

Richard Dunn Poem

Muhammad Ali's a square
I'm going to retire him to his rocking chair
At 31 he ain't so young
He's going to be retired by Richard Dunn


I think Dunn dreamt he knocked Ali thru the ropes.

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 26 May 2017, 04:39
by Kalan
Dunn should have retired to his rocking chair after his 34th fight -- when he was trashed and knocked out by little Mr. Ekwelum -- whose record was 2-1-2

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 26 May 2017, 07:55
by Tony1244
Kalan wrote:Dunn should have retired to his rocking chair after his 34th fight -- when he was trashed and knocked out by little Mr. Ekwelum -- whose record was 2-1-2

So you think Dunn should have retired before beating Bunny Johnson and fighting the great Ali?

I think his Ali fight makes him a lot more interesting in bars and at family functions.

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 26 May 2017, 14:10
by Counter-puncher
Ah why bother getting a career-high payday?

Who actually wants to make a living from their job anyway?

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 26 May 2017, 20:46
by Kalan
Tony1244 wrote:
Kalan wrote:Dunn should have retired to his rocking chair after his 34th fight -- when he was trashed and knocked out by little Mr. Ekwelum -- whose record was 2-1-2

So you think Dunn should have retired before beating Bunny Johnson and fighting the great Ali?

I think his Ali fight makes him a lot more interesting in bars and at family functions.
The beating by raw novice Ekwelum showed what a bum Dunn truly was... Dunn didn't deserve the Ali fight... He was an outrageous cherry-pick

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 26 May 2017, 20:57
by BoxBuzz
On the other hand, he did beat Bunny Johnson and Roy Williams who had beaten Jimmy Young.


Not sayin that should have gotten Mr Dunn a golden ticket. But it was just a keep busy moment, a chance to be a champ, and visit an exotic island.

You would have done the same if given the chance.



lol.

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 27 May 2017, 02:18
by Kalan
Larry Holmes had beaten Roy Williams much more impressively than Dunn beat him (by 1 point in England). Holmes was undefeated at that time (22-0)... Of course, Ali had no intentins of fighting Larry Holmes at that time, even after Larry beat Earnie Shavers and Ken Norton... Ali didn't want his ass kicked.

Duane Bobick beat Bunny Johnson much more impressively than Dunn beat him and he stopped him.. Bobick was undefeated at that time (35-0) and had beaten Scott LeDoux, Larry Middleton, and Randy Neumann.. The fight would have done much better business than fighting Wretched Dung.

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 27 May 2017, 08:45
by Tony1244
Kalan wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
Kalan wrote:Dunn should have retired to his rocking chair after his 34th fight -- when he was trashed and knocked out by little Mr. Ekwelum -- whose record was 2-1-2

So you think Dunn should have retired before beating Bunny Johnson and fighting the great Ali?

I think his Ali fight makes him a lot more interesting in bars and at family functions.
The beating by raw novice Ekwelum showed what a bum Dunn truly was... Dunn didn't deserve the Ali fight... He was an outrageous cherry-pick

If we could predict the future, by 1976, Ali should have been retired and Dunn should have fought on.

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 27 May 2017, 13:19
by Kalan
If we knew the future we'd be Godly.

However, we don't need to be. If you're a veteran boxer and a greenhorn who's barely seen ring action beats the crap out of you and knocks you out???

That's the handwriting on the wall if anything is.

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 27 May 2017, 14:56
by hhaehre
Kalan wrote:The beating by raw novice Ekwelum showed what a bum Dunn truly was...
What a classless loser you are. You love to put down guys who actually accomplished something in the ring, yet you have never posted you own record, how come? Could it be because you never accomplished anything and your so called career exists only in your mind? Why don't you match your record up against that of Richard Dunn?

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 27 May 2017, 17:08
by Counter-puncher
mercman wrote:
hhaehre wrote:
Kalan wrote:The beating by raw novice Ekwelum showed what a bum Dunn truly was...
What a classless loser you are. You love to put down guys who actually accomplished something in the ring, yet you have never posted you own record, how come? Could it be because you never accomplished anything and your so called career exists only in your mind? Why don't you match your record up against that of Richard Dunn?
Richard Dunn was an orphan who grew up in children's homes and ended up being British, Commonwealth and European heavyweight champion.

He was also a paratrooper, and a scaffolder and he ran his own hotel later in life. My wife's from Bradford - Dunn's home town - and he brought his British title belt into show the kids at her school. There's a Richard Dunn Centre in Bradford today.

When Dunn was a little kid he was taken on a day trip to Scarborough by the people at his children's home. He looked at the sea and the big hotels and Scarborough Castle and said it was like seeing paradise. Apparently Dunn swore to himself there and then that he would live in Scarborough one day - and that's where he moved when he retired.

Good luck to him, I say.
:bow:

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 31 May 2017, 02:09
by Kalan
My favorite Richard Dunn fight---a domestic affair https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiGjGZnKLm0 Funny as Hell.

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 31 May 2017, 10:42
by Tony1244
Kalan wrote:If we knew the future we'd be Godly.

However, we don't need to be. If you're a veteran boxer and a greenhorn who's barely seen ring action beats the crap out of you and knocks you out???

That's the handwriting on the wall if anything is.

But the handwriting on the wall was wrong. Dunn is a hero and very accomplished. Are you?

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 31 May 2017, 14:49
by Kalan
Kalan wrote:My favorite Richard Dunn fight---a domestic affair https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiGjGZnKLm0 Funny as Hell.
He wasn't accomplished on the world level... Neither was Bugner who lost all his fights at the world level -- but trashed pathetic Dunn in a minute or so.

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 31 May 2017, 19:27
by Tony1244
Kalan wrote:
Kalan wrote:My favorite Richard Dunn fight---a domestic affair https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiGjGZnKLm0 Funny as Hell.
He wasn't accomplished on the world level... Neither was Bugner who lost all his fights at the world level -- but trashed pathetic Dunn in a minute or so.

No one is pathetic for climbing into a ring. Show some respect. Have a bit of class.

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 01 Jun 2017, 12:20
by Kalan
I love the way my posts are deleted when I try to show the hypocrisy going on.

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 01 Jun 2017, 12:58
by Kalan
I guess I'm not allowed to defend myself against hypocrisy. I posted how Tony 1244 made many disrespectful and hateful statements and it was deleted. Maybe I can attack this another way.

Buster Douglas said Mike Tyson should take off his championship belt and put on a diaper because his deportment was that of a 2-year-old. That wasn't a respectful comment. It wasn't a positive comment. It was a legitimate comment.

Tyson was the undefeated Heavyweight Champion and Douglas was no box of chocolates. He'd been knocked out 3 times and didn't do a lot with his talent. He wasn't particularly deserving of a title shot from anything he accomplished and was one of the biggest underdogs in history. He was a name drawn out of a hat. He figured he was bigger, taller, faster, stronger, and had better skills...and if he prepared correctly he had the beating of one Mike Tyson... If he didn't win his comment was still valid... A man in this country generally gets to express his opinion as long as it's not hate speech.

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 01 Jun 2017, 13:19
by BoxBuzz
I didn't see your deleted statement.......maybe you just didn't hit "submit" with enough authority?

At any rate, what you just shared is not controversial....in my opinion.


Nor is any opinion on any aspect of boxing.

And I do wish for the provocative personal barbs and attacks to fade away, with focus on the sport itself.

A little rough and tumble discussion is ok.....as long as it does not get personal.

We all can disagree, even to extremes, but I don't think that different opinions render us foolish or stupid.


A very good man, can also receive a very bad report card in their chosen endeavor. Keeping comments to a skills assessment, and not a statement of personal worth

probably keeps you on terra firma. We sometimes get into value judgment with those who break the law (E.G. Tyson Ibeabuchi etc) ....and that's probably safe turf as well....if not including false accusations and such.

Just my two cents on this specific topic.

Re: On This Day: Muhammad Ali scores his final stoppage victory

Posted: 01 Jun 2017, 14:51
by Kalan
You don't know what you're talking about... I didn't make personal judgments about a person's character, worth as a human being, make up his sexual preferences, or make up a fanciful and unflattering life story and life history for him for him because he disagrees with me on the subject of Boxing... I posted hateful and disrespectful things a man said that had no class whatsoever and displayed his hypocrisy.

I prefer to just discuss Boxing and not get into pissing contests, but often when you note a boxer’s ineptitude, and back it up with facts, stats, history, bad losses, and common sense assessments of their skills -- partisans come out of the woodwork, not with a counter argument, but with personal attacks that are over-the-top and off the wall. That’s what should be deleted..