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Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 25 May 2017, 11:25
by montrealsuper
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Al Haymon has decided to send Errol Spence over to England to try to wrest Kell Brook’s IBF Welterweight title to bring back to America and under the control of Haymon.
This is a considerable risk by Haymon, who was reluctant to send his other welterweight titleholders Keith Thurman and Danny Garcia to try to take Brook’s title. This indicates the high confidence Haymon has in the 21-0, 27 year old Spence who many ring observers believe to be one of the top prospects in the sport today.
So, obviously there is a lot at stake on Saturday night. Brook is 31 years old with a 36-1 record (25 KOs) and is coming off arguably the most impressive performance of his career – the respectable stoppage loss to seemingly unbeatable middleweight kingpin Gennady Golovkin late last year.
Haymon feels Spence is ready to take care of business with Brook but the secretive American power broker has miscalculated the abilities of his top tier fighters in the past. The two most notable are when Haymon opted to pick Tomas Adamek as the opponent for Cris Arreola, who at the time was Haymon’s number one heavyweight hopeful. Arreola was coming off the impressive loss to WBC champion Vitali Klitschko, who said after the fight that he believed Arreola would be a future heavyweight champion.
So the overconfident Haymon misjudged Adamek who was able to outwork and outsmart Arreola to an important decision victory which send Arreola far down the heavyweight division totem pole. Arreola’s career has crashed since that loss to Adamek.
The other poor decision by the usually extremely careful Haymon was to agree to HBO’s insistence of forcing the Sergio Martinez vs Paul Williams rematch. Haymon at first refused HBO but eventually caved in and made the fight. Which of course ended in disaster for Haymon and Williams as Martinez won by a spectacular first round knockout with one punch in Atlantic City.
Those two Haymon mistakes were several years ago and his business decisions since then have been extremely careful, protecting Adonis Stevenson, Danny Garcia and Deontay Wilder much to the dismay of boxing fans and media around the world.
So now Haymon has decided to take another big risk with Spence vs Brook. Spence has shown he’a a pretty good fighter against his limited opposition but we really don’t know if he’s good enough to handle a proven veteran champion like Kell Brook who has willingly taken on the best of the best and never backed down from any challenge.
In a fight like this it’s very hard to figure out which style is superior or which fighter holds the confidence edge and which fighter appears to be showing slight fissures mentally as the colossal night approaches.
27,ooo are expected to be in the historic Bramall Lane Stadium in Sheffield, England on Saturday night. At the final press conference today both fighters appeared naturally confident in their body language and words.
Errol Spence: “He has power and size and so do I. He said he’s not gonna take a backward step and I won’t either. Of course there’s gonna be drama. I can’t wait to prove on Saturday nigh that I’m the best welterweight on the planet. I will be world champion on Saturday night, no doubt. I wouldn’t have come here if I had any doubts.”
Kell Brook: “There’s question marks over there. We’re gonna get the answers on Saturday night. He’s never been in the ring with a man like me. He will give me many problems. He’s a very good fighter. It’s just gonna be another day in the office for me. I think our styles are gonna gel. There’s gonna be a lot of drama, it’s gonna be a thriller. Gonna be fireworks from round one. Neither one of us is gonna take a step back.”
At the face off both stared deeply and intensely into each other’s eyes. I thought it was Spence who was the first to waver when after over a minute of locked eyes, the American began to lean back though neither broke eye contact. It was almost as if Spence felt the heat and suddenly could no longer tolerate it. He had seen something in Spence’s eyes that he did not like. After Spence leaned back, Brook maintained the eye contact and then it was Spence who looked down. Then Brook leaned in and said something into Spence’s ear which Spence adjusted his body to listen to and then he gave what appeared to be a sarcastic head nod.
This ever so slight confrontation detail may mean nothing. But then again, it could be everything. It could be the telltale sign.
Like the time Kelly Pavlik and Jermain Taylor had their pre-fight press conference staredown and right after it was over I husted over to Pavlik to ask what he had seen in Taylor’s eyes? And I will never forget the answer Pavlik told me. “He has no confidence. I saw no confidence in his eyes.” Of course, Pavlik went on to win Taylor’s titles four days later in a thrilling back and forth middleweight superfight.
Before today I was confused about who would win. But the decision has been made: I see a Brook stoppage or safe points win over Spence.

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 25 May 2017, 11:41
by Enlightened-One
It’s the fighter that agrees to take the fights.

Occasionally fighters lose – there’s nothing unscrupulous about that, since it’s a sport competed between two combatants and usually one of them loses.

All of this anti-Haymon nonsense búllshít that you keep randomly posting to this forum in a keyboard Tourette’s Syndrome-like manner is utterly absurd!

You need to seek help kid!

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 25 May 2017, 12:43
by Tanzio
Our Moron Laureate has delusions of being Homer.

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 25 May 2017, 14:22
by Counter-puncher
TL:DR

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 25 May 2017, 15:50
by montrealsuper
Pauly malignaggi: "Al haymon can manipulate (fix) anything What al haymon wants al haymon gets" You have to figure Haymons corruption and manipulation into any fight analysis that involved one of his key fighters against a fighter he does not control

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 25 May 2017, 15:51
by SaadOffTheDeck
montrealsuper wrote:Pauly malignaggi: "Al haymon can manipulate (fix) anything What al haymon wants al haymon gets" You have to figure Haymons corruption and manipulation into any fight analysis that involved one of his key fighters against a fighter he does not control
Is it physically painful being this dumb?

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 25 May 2017, 16:09
by Impractical Poster
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
montrealsuper wrote:Pauly malignaggi: "Al haymon can manipulate (fix) anything What al haymon wants al haymon gets" You have to figure Haymons corruption and manipulation into any fight analysis that involved one of his key fighters against a fighter he does not control
Is it physically painful being this dumb?
Was this his post-fight Broner interview spiel?

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 25 May 2017, 16:11
by SaadOffTheDeck
Impractical Poster wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
montrealsuper wrote:Pauly malignaggi: "Al haymon can manipulate (fix) anything What al haymon wants al haymon gets" You have to figure Haymons corruption and manipulation into any fight analysis that involved one of his key fighters against a fighter he does not control
Is it physically painful being this dumb?
Was this his post-fight Broner interview spiel?
I've only seen it in scoop's dumb ass posts.

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 25 May 2017, 16:30
by KiwiRider
Is the fight going ahead no matter the weather?
It's outside, and it's England.
I been there 3 times in summer, at least people kept telling me it was summer.

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 25 May 2017, 16:32
by lefty
KiwiRider wrote:Is the fight going ahead no matter the weather?
It's outside, and it's England.
I been there 3 times in summer, at least people kept telling me it was summer.
A kiwi shouldnt be commenting on weather :OhYes:

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 25 May 2017, 16:47
by montrealsuper
Pauly uttered that quote weeks before he fought Broner. When he was being savagely disrespected by the juvenile classless Broner in the media. Pauly was disgusted by all the zero class personal trash talk Broner was doing and just unleashed the nuke on Broner and Haymon. He also said how Al Haymon was totally responsible for creating a (POS) like Broner. It was said on fight hype.

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 25 May 2017, 20:33
by KiwiRider
IT wrote:
KiwiRider wrote:Is the fight going ahead no matter the weather?
It's outside, and it's England.
I been there 3 times in summer, at least people kept telling me it was summer.
A kiwi shouldnt be commenting on weather :OhYes:
:lol:

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 25 May 2017, 22:45
by Badhusker
KiwiRider wrote:Is the fight going ahead no matter the weather?
It's outside, and it's England.
I been there 3 times in summer, at least people kept telling me it was summer.
I take it you are a woman?

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 25 May 2017, 23:12
by MachoTime
Not much of a fight analysis. All I got out of it was a bunch of nothing.

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 25 May 2017, 23:28
by SaadOffTheDeck
MachoTime wrote:Not much of a fight analysis. All I got out of it was a bunch of nothing.
If it's got the malinowski name on it, it's guaranteed crap. He knows less about boxing than he does tennis. Complete shill and an embarrassingly poor blogger.

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 27 May 2017, 01:52
by Best Coast
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
MachoTime wrote:Not much of a fight analysis. All I got out of it was a bunch of nothing.
If it's got the malinowski name on it, it's guaranteed crap. He knows less about boxing than he does tennis. Complete shill and an embarrassingly poor blogger.
:OhYes: Good observation. This so-called "analysis" says virtually nothing about the contrasting styles, ring generalship or other technical aspects of the matchup. :roll:

It's all about Al Haymon and how pre-fight staredowns supposedly determine the outcomes of fights. :brick:

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 27 May 2017, 02:24
by lazboy
Best Coast wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
MachoTime wrote:Not much of a fight analysis. All I got out of it was a bunch of nothing.
If it's got the malinowski name on it, it's guaranteed crap. He knows less about boxing than he does tennis. Complete shill and an embarrassingly poor blogger.
:OhYes: Good observation. This so-called "analysis" says virtually nothing about the contrasting styles, ring generalship or other technical aspects of the matchup. :roll:

It's all about Al Haymon and how pre-fight staredowns supposedly determine the outcomes of fights. :brick:
Why talk about styles, thats not important. Havn't you heard the old boxing saying, Stares make fights.

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 27 May 2017, 03:51
by Thomastearns
All Haymon's taking a calculated risk, but then so is everyone else concerned here. Least of all Brook with his eye, and possibly his right hand.

Business is all about calculated risk. Inside or outside the rules.

The only certain thing is that an increase in boxing knowledge doesn't seem to correlate with an increase in accuracy of prediction. At least not in championship fights.

In this quantum world all outcomes are possible, some are just more likely to occur. I know I wouldn't want to face someone as mentally strong as Kell Brook.

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 27 May 2017, 04:43
by Ossyrules
Check weigh in

Spence - 155.8

Brook - 156.9

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 27 May 2017, 04:49
by Enlightened-One
Ossyrules wrote:Check weigh in

Spence - 155.8

Brook - 156.9
Spence Jr seemed to make the weight easily, whereas Brook has pretty much achieved to maximum allowable weight.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Brit is at least 7lbs heavier than his opponent by the time he enters the ring, but unfortunately we won't receive confirmation of this.

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 27 May 2017, 04:52
by Ossyrules
Enlightened-One wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:Check weigh in

Spence - 155.8

Brook - 156.9
Spence Jr seemed to make the weight easily, whereas Brook has pretty much achieved to maximum allowable weight.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Brit is at least 7lbs heavier than his opponent by the time he enters the ring, but unfortunately we won't receive confirmation of this.
You could be right, the optimist in me hopes that brook has done the weight well and it's a great precision effort from him and his team to hit the mark so close

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 27 May 2017, 09:24
by lefty
Ossyrules wrote:Check weigh in

Spence - 155.8

Brook - 156.9
Great news. Glad to hear it :TU:

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 27 May 2017, 12:49
by Enlightened-One
KiwiRider wrote:Is the fight going ahead no matter the weather?
It's outside, and it's England.
I been there 3 times in summer, at least people kept telling me it was summer.
The weather is absolutely fine in Sheffield at the moment and there is currently no sign of rain, but it's supposed to be humid.

Kell Brook actually wants the weather to be terrible in order to make Errol feel as uncomfortable as possible.

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 27 May 2017, 12:56
by Tanzio
Enlightened-One wrote:
KiwiRider wrote:Is the fight going ahead no matter the weather?
It's outside, and it's England.
I been there 3 times in summer, at least people kept telling me it was summer.
The weather is absolutely fine in Sheffield at the moment and there is currently no sign of rain, but it's supposed to be humid.

Kell Brook actually wants the weather to be terrible in order to make Errol feel as uncomfortable as possible.
A bit of English humidity certainly will not bother a Texan.

Re: Kell Brook vs Errol Spence analysis

Posted: 27 May 2017, 13:05
by lefty
Tanzio wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:
KiwiRider wrote:Is the fight going ahead no matter the weather?
It's outside, and it's England.
I been there 3 times in summer, at least people kept telling me it was summer.
The weather is absolutely fine in Sheffield at the moment and there is currently no sign of rain, but it's supposed to be humid.

Kell Brook actually wants the weather to be terrible in order to make Errol feel as uncomfortable as possible.
A bit of English humidity certainly will not bother a Texan.
Haha :TU: