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The book was reportedly published in Germany in 2004
entitled
"Unter Brudern"
(published by Random House Entertainment)
and was released just before his bout with Danny Williams in 2004
(Vitali Klitschko even gave Danny Williams an autographed copy of it at a press conference to promote the fight)
Has anyone here ever seen a copy of it anywhere
or have a scan of the cover ?
btw How many people here can speak or read the German language ?

How to make the hof because of your brother and getting your ass kicked.

Never mind-I had to go out of my own way and answer my own question of course as often is the case here it seems anymore.


https://www.amazon.com/Unter-Br%C3%BCdern/dp/3809030252

Would you like some cheese with your whine?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:How to make the hof because of your brother and getting your ass kicked.

Tell us what you really think.


He was a force to be reckoned with, and it's the "Hall of Fame". And his life in and out of the ring probably makes him as or more well known than his brother.

I also suspect he could beat his brother one on one. A styles issues surely, but something to consider.

He'll be the least deserving member by a mile.

came across this documentery,can't understand a word of it but it is in HD and has some cool footage and photos too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoFdfF7GIJo

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He'll be the least deserving member by a mile.

No, it's Arturo Gatti. But yes, Vitali has really weak resume comparing to his brother, which means that he wasn't fighting all the best available fighters of his era. Wladimir's resume is far from resumes of Ali or Holyfield, but comparing to Vitali's one it looks very solid. And people can say what they want about "Vitaly beat every man he faced and only lost because of injuries in the fights he was winning handily", but the fact is that he failed to defeat officially two best opponents he ever faced. Vitali was very good fighter H2H, but I can't understand how can anybody in their mind rank him historically highter than his younger brother. Because he could potentially beat more all time greats (which isn't given considering that Wlad was way more powerful and faster of the two)? It doesn't work like that, because in that case we should rank Ike Ibeabuchi higher than Rocky Marciano, Floyd Patterson or Jack Dempsey.

Gatti has a better resume. Rahman is more deserving of the hof. Vitali literally beat nobody.

BTW was that Freddie Mercury at about 28:25 of this clip or who ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoFdfF7GIJo

I think Vitali Klitschko had more of a "Killer's Instinct" in the ring then Vladimir.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He'll be the least deserving member by a mile.

LOL, haters are going to hate.

Some guys can't let it go. He's 45-2, made over ten title defenses, was never floored by a punch, has one of the highest KO percentages amount heavyweight champions, and lost very few rounds during the process. He also came back from retirement in his late 30's which is impressive, not to mention overcame various surgeries.

So he lost twice. One to Lennox Lewis and he was in the lead when the fight was stopped on cuts, the other was to Byrd, where he ahead by a huge margin, but opted to halt the match based on a torn up shoulder. Lewis would not offer a rematch.

So his defeats are not by being out boxed or KO'd. Anyone can lose on a cut or a torn shoulder. The fact that Vitali was in the lead with these injuries to excellent boxers shows how good he really was.

Caractacus wrote:The book was reportedly published in Germany in 2004
entitled
"Unter Brudern"
(published by Random House Entertainment)
and was released just before his bout with Danny Williams in 2004
(Vitali Klitschko even gave Danny Williams an autographed copy of it at a press conference to promote the fight)
Has anyone here ever seen a copy of it anywhere
or have a scan of the cover ?
btw How many people here can speak or read the German language ?

There was a documentary on the brothers.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1885281/

You can probably see it on you tube.

I think this is the documentery you are referring to right here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoFdfF7GIJo

pound per pound wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He'll be the least deserving member by a mile.

LOL, haters are going to hate.

Some guys can't let it go. He's 45-2, made over ten title defenses, was never floored by a punch, has one of the highest KO percentages amount heavyweight champions, and lost very few rounds during the process. He also came back from retirement in his late 30's which is impressive, not to mention overcame various surgeries.

So he lost twice. One to Lennox Lewis and he was in the lead when the fight was stopped on cuts, the other was to Byrd, where he ahead by a huge margin, but opted to halt the match based on a torn up shoulder. Lewis would not offer a rematch.

So his defeats are not by being out boxed or KO'd. Anyone can lose on a cut or a torn shoulder. The fact that Vitali was in the lead with these injuries to excellent boxers shows how good he really was.

LOL, lovers love to love.

And those are the comments that you often here nowadays to make a fighter look better than they are.
Notice that in all that not one opponent was mentioned that he beat. That says an awful lot. Instead we again get quote the numbers against weak competition yet again.

You can be 45-2 or some other fancy record and not be that good. It had happened many, many time.This is a sport where you pick your opponents, and eras vary widely in quality different division.
10 ttile defenses? Same thing. You are talking about a weak era to begin with, you there are 4 so called champions. Obviously you are going to be fighting that tough of competition when that happens. You aren't fighting the other so called champions, and you can't fight some of the top contenders because they are fighting other so called champions.

Yes he lost twice. In the only relevant fights he had. He got cut. That is on him. That isn't an excuse for losing. If he was a great fighter he wins this fight easily. Ever notice good defensive fighters don't get cut often? A hard puncher puts away Lewis. A good boxer easily outboxes this version of Lewis.
He wasn't hard puncher. (KO% vs pathetic competition to the contrary). He didn't have good boxing skills. He had slow hand speed, slow footwork, and was easy to hit. Didn't have a great hook, uppercut, jab, straight right, anything.

The hurt shoulder? A great fighter toughs it out for three rounds. He doesn't quit. He also looked terrible in that fight. The fact that he was in the lead is irrelevant. That loss is on him.

The bottom line is that in the most important fights of his career he went 0-2. He lost to Lewis at his worst, and quit against a guy who couldn't punch his way out of a wet paper bag.