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June Top 100 Rankings Premier Boxing Organisation

Posted: 28 May 2017, 13:17
by Lennox
www.premierboxingorganisation.com/heavyweight-200

Ratings created by results based on man that beat the man.

Re: June Top 100 Rankings Premier Boxing Organisation

Posted: 28 May 2017, 13:28
by SaadOffTheDeck
:zzz:

Re: June Top 100 Rankings Premier Boxing Organisation

Posted: 28 May 2017, 14:05
by Mexi-Box
Horrible rankings.

Re: June Top 100 Rankings Premier Boxing Organisation

Posted: 28 May 2017, 14:41
by Tarkus
Garbage.

Re: June Top 100 Rankings Premier Boxing Organisation

Posted: 28 May 2017, 16:52
by tiny_acres
How much do you pay boxrec for advertising?
Every muthafuckin post you make is about your stupid ratings that no one is interested in

Re: June Top 100 Rankings Premier Boxing Organisation

Posted: 28 May 2017, 18:03
by SaadOffTheDeck
tiny_acres wrote:How much do you pay boxrec for advertising?
Every muthafuckin post you make is about your stupid ratings that no one is interested in
I've tried to tell this ass clown for years. His shitty rankings aren't worth a click.

Re: June Top 100 Rankings Premier Boxing Organisation

Posted: 28 May 2017, 18:09
by RScarf1
Lennox wrote:http://www.premierboxingorganisation.co ... weight-200

Ratings created by results based on man that beat the man.
Fury has not fought in a while. Also, are you only basing your ratings on the championship changing hands? What about all the other boxers?

Re: June Top 100 Rankings Premier Boxing Organisation

Posted: 28 May 2017, 19:15
by Lennox
The best rankings. Educate yourselves and learn.

Re: June Top 100 Rankings Premier Boxing Organisation

Posted: 28 May 2017, 21:25
by jezzamundo
Very good rankings, better than BoxRec. Chisora and Ruiz Jr are too low, but these are better than any other mathematical rankings I've seen.

Re: June Top 100 Rankings Premier Boxing Organisation

Posted: 29 May 2017, 04:26
by Mexi-Box
Lennox wrote:The best rankings. Educate yourselves and learn.
Why is Ziminoch above Rudenko?

Re: June Top 100 Rankings Premier Boxing Organisation

Posted: 29 May 2017, 04:43
by Lennox
Zimnoch just has slightly better wins than Rudenko.

The numbers in the last 20 column reflect the pre fight ranking of the opponent, so the lower numbers in your last 20 reflect the quality.

No rankings are ever going to agree with each individuals opinion, these rankings do not mean that the the number 20 will always beat the number 80, some fighters are on the way up some on the way down but they put the fighters in an order as they stand on achievement.

You argued with me a couple of years ago about the light heavyweight Shabransky and that the rankings were bad because he was not in the top 10. Shabransky never defeated good opponents and when matched with better fighters time after time that sort of thing happens.

Re: June Top 100 Rankings Premier Boxing Organisation

Posted: 29 May 2017, 04:47
by Lennox
jezzamundo wrote:Very good rankings, better than BoxRec. Chisora and Ruiz Jr are too low, but these are better than any other mathematical rankings I've seen.
Yes I think your right. Chisora is falling because he has not defeated a top 100 opponent in more than 3 years, he just keeps getting matched to high. Andy Ruiz best win is against an opponent ranked 59, he did will against Parker though IMO he clearly lost but it showed he was a decent fighter.

Re: June Top 100 Rankings Premier Boxing Organisation

Posted: 29 May 2017, 04:53
by crusader
On the topic of Zimnoch, he seems far too high for someone who was blown out a year ago by Mike Mollo, and subsequently only managed an SD against Rekowski.

I remember you going on about Hughie's weak resume (wins over Rudenko, who routinely beat Mollo on the first go, and Kassi) when people were voting him into the forum top 15, yet you've got Zimnoch in pretty much the same spot. Would you say you're overrating Zimnoch?

Re: June Top 100 Rankings Premier Boxing Organisation

Posted: 29 May 2017, 04:57
by Lennox
RScarf1 wrote:
Lennox wrote:http://www.premierboxingorganisation.co ... weight-200

Ratings created by results based on man that beat the man.
Fury has not fought in a while. Also, are you only basing your ratings on the championship changing hands? What about all the other boxers?
All fighters are effectively linked, you ascend beating ranked fighters, the rankings go beyond 100 in the live system as soon as you beat an opponent in the system you are ranked. Championships don't really figure everything is a just a fight.

Re: June Top 100 Rankings Premier Boxing Organisation

Posted: 29 May 2017, 05:08
by Lennox
crusader wrote:On the topic of Zimnoch, he seems far too high for someone who was blown out a year ago by Mike Mollo, and subsequently only managed an SD against Rekowski.

I remember you going on about Hughie's weak resume (wins over Rudenko, who routinely beat Mollo on the first go, and Kassi) when people were voting him into the forum top 15, yet you've got Zimnoch in pretty much the same spot. Would you say you're overrating Zimnoch?
Well he avenged the Mike Mollo loss but yes I think he probably is a bit high.
The problem with the heavyweights is that pretty much everyone outside that top 10 are not making decent fights and its been the case for a long time. Its the division where everyone seems to want to see undefeated fighters clash and building up fighters records often involves a whole lot of non top 100 fighters. Until we see better matching (and we saw it with Parker - Ruiz) it is quite hard to know how good some of these fighters are, too bad that match was for the WBO title.
Amir Mansour is another fighter that could beat many fighters though he is getting older.
Charles Martin never really beat anyone until Glazkov and all we saw was one round then the injury.
Someone like Zimnoch at least has a reasonable amount of second tier fighters on his resume, beating a Rekowski may not seem much but the other fighters around him and not defeating better fighters.