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There's no doubt today's sportsmen, any sports, get huge financial rewards, and boxing is no exception. But while many disciplines have grown in popularity, boxing's has declined exponentially over the decades.

Old boxing legends are on record stating the sport was much tougher in the period 1940-1970, and the purses much smaller.

Plus the world has experienced since the 1990's a financial crisis.

So, where does all this money come from?

crow wrote:There's no doubt today's sportsmen, any sports, get huge financial rewards, and boxing is no exception. But while many disciplines have grown in popularity, boxing's has declined exponentially over the decades.

Old boxing legends are on record stating the sport was much tougher in the period 1940-1970, and the purses much smaller.

Plus the world has experienced since the 1990's a financial crisis.

So, where does all this money come from?

PPV, tv rights and ticket sales.

Also site fees, concessions & merchandise. Casino money is the biggest culprit for the sad state of the sport in America.

Chippo wrote:

crow wrote:.

Plus the world has experienced since the 1990's a financial crisis.

It has?

I don't know where you live, but in Europe, the last 30 years have come from bad to worse, in the sense people have less and less money to spend, and barely manage to go by from day to day, but are working even harder than they used to.

The middle class is disappearing fast, while the sports industry entertains us along the way with their star millionaires.

Domestic (lead) TV, private sponsorships, public sponsorship (government money), private investment, PPV, ticket sales, site fees, casino fees, international broadcast rights, footage rights, merchandise,

Think I'm probably missing a few bits and bobs but that's most of them

Boxing Prospect wrote:Domestic (lead) TV, private sponsorships, public sponsorship (government money), private investment, PPV, ticket sales, site fees, casino fees, international broadcast rights, footage rights, merchandise,

Think I'm probably missing a few bits and bobs but that's most of them

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Ruthless-RKO wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:Domestic (lead) TV, private sponsorships, public sponsorship (government money), private investment, PPV, ticket sales, site fees, casino fees, international broadcast rights, footage rights, merchandise,

Think I'm probably missing a few bits and bobs but that's most of them

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Just realised I forgot things like pubs in the UK showing it (kinda PPV I guess but much, much pricier per sale)

crow wrote:There's no doubt today's sportsmen, any sports, get huge financial rewards, and boxing is no exception. But while many disciplines have grown in popularity, boxing's has declined exponentially over the decades.

Old boxing legends are on record stating the sport was much tougher in the period 1940-1970, and the purses much smaller.

Plus the world has experienced since the 1990's a financial crisis.

So, where does all this money come from?

Boxing hasn't declined globally! The United States is not the entire world!

Boxing Prospect wrote:

Ruthless-RKO wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:Domestic (lead) TV, private sponsorships, public sponsorship (government money), private investment, PPV, ticket sales, site fees, casino fees, international broadcast rights, footage rights, merchandise,

Think I'm probably missing a few bits and bobs but that's most of them

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Just realised I forgot things like pubs in the UK showing it (kinda PPV I guess but much, much pricier per sale)

A land lord in a pub I used to go to said he stopped buying sky sports as it cost him over £50,000 a year and that wasn't even PPV shows just football, if that true God know what they have to fork out for a PPV show.

Nightmare Roy wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:

Ruthless-RKO wrote:
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Just realised I forgot things like pubs in the UK showing it (kinda PPV I guess but much, much pricier per sale)

A land lord in a pub I used to go to said he stopped buying sky sports as it cost him over £50,000 a year and that wasn't even PPV shows just football, if that true God know what they have to fork out for a PPV show.

£50,000?? That cant be right! Just Football, on normal Sky subscription?

Nightmare Roy wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:

Ruthless-RKO wrote:
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Just realised I forgot things like pubs in the UK showing it (kinda PPV I guess but much, much pricier per sale)

A land lord in a pub I used to go to said he stopped buying sky sports as it cost him over £50,000 a year and that wasn't even PPV shows just football, if that true God know what they have to fork out for a PPV show.

I read an article last year quoting figures obtained by ‘The Telegraph’ claiming that the average commercial subscription for Sky Sports is £15,750 and £4,740 for BT Sport, with Sky Box Office events costing £299 each.

Based on 2016’s pricing tariffs, pubs can often pay a combined total from £16,800 to £23,160 in subscription fees to show sports televised by BT & Sky.

For sure, the current pricing figures are likely to have risen somewhat, but I highly doubt that any landlord would have to fork out £50K in fees to watch sport in their pub, unless it’s an absolutely fúckíng massive venue.

Enlightened-One wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:
Just realised I forgot things like pubs in the UK showing it (kinda PPV I guess but much, much pricier per sale)

A land lord in a pub I used to go to said he stopped buying sky sports as it cost him over £50,000 a year and that wasn't even PPV shows just football, if that true God know what they have to fork out for a PPV show.

I read an article last year quoting figures obtained by ‘The Telegraph’ claiming that the average commercial subscription for Sky Sports is £15,750 and £4,740 for BT Sport, with Sky Box Office events costing £299 each.

Based on 2016’s pricing tariffs, pubs can often pay a combined total from £16,800 to £23,160 in subscription fees to show sports televised by BT & Sky.

For sure, the current pricing figures are likely to have risen somewhat, but I highly doubt that any landlord would have to fork out £50K in fees to watch sport in their pub, unless it’s an absolutely fúckíng massive venue.

it was a massive gaff but I thought he was was going over the top a bit.

Boxing is doing well in the UK from what I've been seeing. They're filling up stadiums. The fighters that I have to wonder where the money comes from are guys that can't even draw in terms of ticket sales. I'm assuming PBC picks up a lot of the slack when it comes to them.

Gambling, ticket sales, PPV and Advertising.

My mate owns a pub and his t.v. packages cost him more than his bar manager.. I'm not jokin either. Commercial tv is extraordinary prices

Most of it comes from fans in the form of ticket prices, PPV sales, broadcast and rebroadcasting rights, ancillary rights, product endorsements, advertising dollars, and other revenue streams... Some comes from rich folks like Michael King -- the guy who started Dominic Breazeale -- who fund amateur programs that produce Boxing talent.

Boxing also has it's share of unsavory characters and underworld figures... Convicted and imprisoned PED pusher, Victor Conte, sees Boxing as a bunch of rubes who can easily be taken advantage of and manipulated... He has pushed his smarmy mitts deeply into the sport.

Ruthless-RKO wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:Domestic (lead) TV, private sponsorships, public sponsorship (government money), private investment, PPV, ticket sales, site fees, casino fees, international broadcast rights, footage rights, merchandise,

Think I'm probably missing a few bits and bobs but that's most of them

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That's a pretty small percentage of revenue now compared to PPV.

In the us a bar gets charged a fee per head of their maximum capacity for ppv. HBO & showtime fights aren't played anywhere, anymore. Not sure if that's the cost or people would complain if they turned off jeopardy or a WNBA game.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:In the us a bar gets charged a fee per head of their maximum capacity for ppv. HBO & showtime fights aren't played anywhere, anymore. Not sure if that's the cost or people would complain if they turned off jeopardy or a WNBA game.

A bit of both. I have a hell of a time finding fights in bars when I am on business in North America, generally.

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