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Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 14:02
by Jip
Not so long ago he was a super featherweight, now he fights at light welterweight. I mean broner won't be that hard of a headache, even so people underestimate ab cause he us lazy, yet still a lot of boxers would lose to him. Concerning future, how mikey do against the top light welterweights?
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 14:24
by gilgamesh
I think Broner cutting to 140 would be more of an issue than Garcia coming up to 140. Broner probably won't even make weight.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 14:38
by Baby Face Finster
Weight won't matter in this fight, foot and hand speed will. Garcia will box Broner's ears off. Broner's only chance is to land a hayemaker, but I doubt he will be able to do so.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 15:22
by Stuarty
Garcia could end up top dog at 140. Once Crawford inevitably moves up the division is wide open. Would be an interesting fight if Broner turned up in shape and motivated but the guys a waste.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 15:36
by Counter-puncher
Stuarty30 wrote:Garcia could end up top dog at 140. Once Crawford inevitably moves up the division is wide open. Would be an interesting fight if Broner turned up in shape and motivated but the guys a waste.
I think he could turn up as focussed and motivated as possible and still get his face beaten in
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 15:47
by Lackeos
Garcia - Rojas was 11 months ago, and the weigh-in weights were 138 and 139. So no. There basically is no weight jump period. Not to mention that Broner has never been good enough to f*ck with someone as good as Garcia is supposed to be.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 17:01
by Mexi-Box
Garcia is a big guy. He's always been massive for every division he's in. Guy was a gigantic featherweight, and he was huge at SFW. Guy was built solid and coming in above 140 lbs. when he fought Martinez. IIRC, he outweighed Martinez, the natural SFW, in their fight.
I think Garcia is about the same size as Broner. Broner is just fat. I noticed that when he fought Granados. Granados actually looked like the bigger guy in the ring even though he's not naturally huge like Orozco and some of the other LWW.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 17:26
by Blodhemn
Mexi-Box wrote:Garcia is a big guy. He's always been massive for every division he's in. Guy was a gigantic featherweight, and he was huge at SFW. Guy was built solid and coming in above 140 lbs. when he fought Martinez. IIRC, he outweighed Martinez, the natural SFW, in their fight.
I think Garcia is about the same size as Broner. Broner is just fat. I noticed that when he fought Granados. Granados actually looked like the bigger guy in the ring even though he's not naturally huge like Orozco and some of the other LWW.
Yeah, Mikey's always had a size advantage. I'm sure he doesn't enjoy the effort to make 140 as it is. There is no weight jump, just less of a cut.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 17:28
by Stuarty
Counter-puncher wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Garcia could end up top dog at 140. Once Crawford inevitably moves up the division is wide open. Would be an interesting fight if Broner turned up in shape and motivated but the guys a waste.
I think he could turn up as focussed and motivated as possible and still get his face beaten in
Possibly mate aye

Would still be more interesting if he turned up half bothered.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 19:30
by Badhusker
Jip wrote:Not so long ago he was a super featherweight, now he fights at light welterweight. I mean broner won't be that hard of a headache, even so people underestimate ab cause he us lazy, yet still a lot of boxers would lose to him. Concerning future, how mikey do against the top light welterweights?
Why not reply to the thread that is already created on this fight?

I feel sorry for some of you dumb fucks that are so in need of attention.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 20:23
by Jip
Sorry. Didnt know.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 04 Jun 2017, 14:22
by SaadOffTheDeck
Counter-puncher wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Garcia could end up top dog at 140. Once Crawford inevitably moves up the division is wide open. Would be an interesting fight if Broner turned up in shape and motivated but the guys a waste.
I think he could turn up as focussed and motivated as possible and still get his face beaten in
No question, I'm amazed so many ride that focus train with broner. I've never seen him fight differently. As for Mikey, he just fought at 140 and looked fine. No worries there.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 04 Jun 2017, 14:44
by Enlightened-One
Jip wrote:Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Mikey Garcia has already competed at 140lbs last year and Adrien Broner is not bigger than him. In fact, the main reason why ‘The Problem’ struggles with his weight is due to a lack of discipline rather than being too large to compete effectively at 140lbs.
Simply put: if Mikey Garcia is adversely affected by competing at a higher weight, then we won’t see any evidence of this when he faces Adrien Broner.
At this point in time, I feel that Mikey Garcia is likely to struggle against the true “big men” of the 140lbs division, such as Viktor Postol, Terence Crawford & Julius Indongo (at least until he becomes accustomed to his new weight).
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 04 Jun 2017, 15:25
by Tanzio
I really disagree with this move on Mikey's part. He has only just begun to compete at 135. There are some very good fights to be made there, eventually including a big fight v Lomassiah.
I suppose that this is just a prize fight to test the waters against a credible opponent that is his size. I would like to think that Mikey is not done at 135.
With regards to Mikey's size, if anything he will be undersized fairly dramatically at 140. I am certainly not claiming that he cannot compete there, but his size advantage evaporates completely at 140. In fact, he isn't what I would consider big for 135. Compared to Zlaticanin he was large, but there is plenty of competition at 135 that he would not have a size advantage over.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 04 Jun 2017, 16:19
by Mexi-Box
Tanzio wrote:I really disagree with this move on Mikey's part. He has only just begun to compete at 135. There are some very good fights to be made there, eventually including a big fight v Lomassiah.
I suppose that this is just a prize fight to test the waters against a credible opponent that is his size. I would like to think that Mikey is not done at 135.
With regards to Mikey's size, if anything he will be undersized fairly dramatically at 140. I am certainly not claiming that he cannot compete there, but his size advantage evaporates completely at 140. In fact, he isn't what I would consider big for 135. Compared to Zlaticanin he was large, but there is plenty of competition at 135 that he would not have a size advantage over.
Mikey is bigger than Linares. Plus, no one wanted to fight Mikey at 135 lbs., hence why he moved up. Linares is fighting Campbell. Not sure what happened to Flangan.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 04 Jun 2017, 16:52
by Tanzio
Mexi-Box wrote:Tanzio wrote:I really disagree with this move on Mikey's part. He has only just begun to compete at 135. There are some very good fights to be made there, eventually including a big fight v Lomassiah.
I suppose that this is just a prize fight to test the waters against a credible opponent that is his size. I would like to think that Mikey is not done at 135.
With regards to Mikey's size, if anything he will be undersized fairly dramatically at 140. I am certainly not claiming that he cannot compete there, but his size advantage evaporates completely at 140. In fact, he isn't what I would consider big for 135. Compared to Zlaticanin he was large, but there is plenty of competition at 135 that he would not have a size advantage over.
Mikey is bigger than Linares. Plus, no one wanted to fight Mikey at 135 lbs., hence why he moved up. Linares is fighting Campbell. Not sure what happened to Flangan.
What are you basing your claim that Mikey is bigger than Linares on? He seems like he might be a bit bigger boned but Linares is taller and a touch longer.
I don't think that size is a major factor between them. Punching power is a factor where Mikey has a significant advantage, among others.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 04 Jun 2017, 17:01
by Mexi-Box
Tanzio wrote:Mexi-Box wrote:Tanzio wrote:I really disagree with this move on Mikey's part. He has only just begun to compete at 135. There are some very good fights to be made there, eventually including a big fight v Lomassiah.
I suppose that this is just a prize fight to test the waters against a credible opponent that is his size. I would like to think that Mikey is not done at 135.
With regards to Mikey's size, if anything he will be undersized fairly dramatically at 140. I am certainly not claiming that he cannot compete there, but his size advantage evaporates completely at 140. In fact, he isn't what I would consider big for 135. Compared to Zlaticanin he was large, but there is plenty of competition at 135 that he would not have a size advantage over.
Mikey is bigger than Linares. Plus, no one wanted to fight Mikey at 135 lbs., hence why he moved up. Linares is fighting Campbell. Not sure what happened to Flangan.
What are you basing your claim that Mikey is bigger than Linares on? He seems like he might be a bit bigger boned but Linares is taller and a touch longer.
I don't think that size is a major factor between them. Punching power is a factor where Mikey has a significant advantage, among others.
Mikey is fixing to move up to 140 lbs. is why, and he's came in around that weight before. He was also ambivalent if he even wanted to/could make 135 lbs. Look at the difference between him and Rojas when they were making weight. Mikey's stomach looks deflated like he was draining himself to make 140 lbs. Plus, he also says in this article that he walks around close to 160 lbs. I don't think Linares is that big.
https://www.ringtv.com/360025-mikey-gar ... he-weight/
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 04 Jun 2017, 17:52
by Tanzio
Mexi-Box wrote:Tanzio wrote:Mexi-Box wrote:
Mikey is bigger than Linares. Plus, no one wanted to fight Mikey at 135 lbs., hence why he moved up. Linares is fighting Campbell. Not sure what happened to Flangan.
What are you basing your claim that Mikey is bigger than Linares on? He seems like he might be a bit bigger boned but Linares is taller and a touch longer.
I don't think that size is a major factor between them. Punching power is a factor where Mikey has a significant advantage, among others.
Mikey is fixing to move up to 140 lbs. is why, and he's came in around that weight before. He was also ambivalent if he even wanted to/could make 135 lbs. Look at the difference between him and Rojas when they were making weight. Mikey's stomach looks deflated like he was draining himself to make 140 lbs. Plus, he also says in this article that he walks around close to 160 lbs. I don't think Linares is that big.
https://www.ringtv.com/360025-mikey-gar ... he-weight/
Thanks for the link. According to that I would have to agree Mikey will not be returning to 135. I find it unfortunate that he found it necessary to take such a long layoff. He could have more naturally grew into the weight.
I am still not convinced that he is big for the 135 division. Not being able to make weight does not necessarily translate into a matter of size.
He will have no size advantage at 140.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 05 Jun 2017, 00:47
by Oben321
I don't see any challenges for Garcia going up from 135lbs to 140lbs. Broner will be a big name to add to Garcia's record. The real question here is how will Broner (with all his overweight issues) will be affected.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 05 Jun 2017, 00:48
by Oben321
I don't see any challenges for Garcia going up from 135lbs to 140lbs. Broner will be a big name to add to Garcia's record. The real question here is how will Broner (with all his overweight issues) be affected.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 05 Jun 2017, 00:49
by Oben321
I don't see any challenges for Garcia going up from 135lbs to 140lbs. Broner will be a big name to add to Garcia's record. The real question here is how will Broner (with all his overweight issues) be affected.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 05 Jun 2017, 02:03
by Kalan
gilgamesh wrote:I think Broner cutting to 140 would be more of an issue than Garcia coming up to 140. Broner probably won't even make weight.
Broner will make the weight without too much difficultly... Garcia jumped up so he could avoid Lomachenko... and he's got easy pickings with Broner.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 05 Jun 2017, 02:20
by victor-romeo
Kalan wrote:gilgamesh wrote:I think Broner cutting to 140 would be more of an issue than Garcia coming up to 140. Broner probably won't even make weight.
Broner will make the weight without too much difficultly... Garcia jumped up so he could avoid Lomachenko... and he's got easy pickings with Broner.
I don't know if Broner can make the weight but if Garcia goes to 140 that just about kills the Lomachenko fight....so your on to something there. This is one fight I will be rooting for Broner, just cause Garcia's action has made a Lomachenko and himself match up less likely.
Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 05 Jun 2017, 07:47
by Mexi-Box
Kalan wrote:gilgamesh wrote:I think Broner cutting to 140 would be more of an issue than Garcia coming up to 140. Broner probably won't even make weight.
Broner will make the weight without too much difficultly... Garcia jumped up so he could avoid Lomachenko... and he's got easy pickings with Broner.
You're an idiot. Lomachenko is fixing to rematch Salido. You're telling me Mikey should not move up and fight Broner for money?

Re: Will Garcia be affected by the weight jump?
Posted: 05 Jun 2017, 07:50
by caldo2025
I've been pretty critical of Mikey Garcia's resume and the way he's conducted his career thus far but I'm fairly impressed by him signing on to fight Broner. But Mikey was Maidana's main sparring partner for Maidana leading up to his fight with Broner so I think that he feels that he has a good lay of the land with Broner.
But i will say that if we finally get a Broner near 100% then this will be a fight. A really good fight.